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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Sun 04 Nov 2012, 8:57 pm

First topic message reminder :

Hello and welcome to the Virtual Rugby Pub, a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The pub has made its way to the island of Jersey, where the newly promoted hme side is off the bottom of the Championship.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no tampering with the pictures of Glen Jackson, Dan Parks and Matt Banahan above the bar.

Ale Smile coffee guinness cider Yahoo RedWine Bubbly Hug Ale cuppa guinness thumbsup

Previous Pub:
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:17 pm

Why aren't we taking Jarvis off?? He must be knackered!!
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Post by Cari Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:18 pm

Now did he really have cramp there...? chin

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Post by Cari Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:20 pm

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Post by Cari Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:20 pm

What a cruel ending. I think that'll be given.

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Post by PenfroPete Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:21 pm

R I P Welsh Rugby, it's been emotional
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:21 pm

Screw this I've had enough......there's no passion in this Welsh side at all, no one wanted to be on that pitch, no one gee-ing the other's up, no leadership from the sidelines.......mad to think that with almost the same side we won the grand slam.
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Post by Cari Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:22 pm

Isn't Gatland coming back for the last two games?

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Post by Cari Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:23 pm

If that isn't a kick in the balls - Fotuali'i is MOTM too.

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Post by MrsP Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:25 pm

What is the problem with the Samoan kicking tee?

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Post by Cari Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:26 pm

FT 19-26. Well done Samoa. Decent win for you although I'm not happy with some of their tactics regardless of how bad Wales have been. Well done Oz - a few squid out of that win.

I see a massive loss against the ABs next week.

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Post by MBTGOG Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:28 pm

I'm glad Ireland aren't playing Samoa this Autumn. That is the strongest Samoan side I've seen.


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Post by Notch Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:29 pm

PenfroPete wrote:R I P Welsh Rugby, it's been emotional

Hug

Come on mun, its not that bad yet. You'll lose your next two tests and have an average Six nations. Then you'll win another Slam the next year after everyone has written you off. Better to be up and down than consistently mediocre like us!

I've got to say, I've just got in right now to see that last try being awarded, and I'm absolutely chuffed to bits for Samoa. Absolutely delighted to see them get the win. I don't want you guys to take this the wrong way, it's just Wales have every advantage in terms of getting their guys together compared to Samoa who really struggle. I know Wales have had a few issues with player release with French clubs, but Samoa have a whole other ballpark of issues.

It sounds like Samoa gave everything, the passion and the skill of these guys against all the odds- you have to say, if you're a neutral its hugely admirable. Commiserations to all the Welsh fans but congratulations to Samoa.


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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:29 pm

Ok Welsh ratings:

James-did ok, did his job-6
Hibbard-unfortunately injured but doing ok-6
Jarvis-started well but got tired-6
Evans-didn't see him-5
Davies-Silly pens but carried ok-5
R.Jones-Silly pens-5
Tips-Didn't get into match-5
Faletau-Was he playing?-4
Phillips-Injected pace-6
Biggar-Did well before cruelly taken out-6
Cuthbert-Not used but not exploited-5
Roberts-Actually made tackles unlike the others-7
Beck-Only appeared for his try-6
North-Carried strongly-6
1/2P-Ran well, did well, shame at the end-8

Owens-Best player for Wales tonight-8
Jenkins-Silly penalty-4
Bevs-Not enough time
Charteris-Shored up lineout-5
Warburton-No impact-5
Priestland-Last game in Welsh jersey-3


We need Jones and JD2 back and Howley can go and learn a new trade


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Post by MrsP Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:29 pm

MBTGOG wrote:I'm glad Ireland aren't playing Samoa this Autumn. That is the strongest Samoan side I've seen.


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Post by Notch Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:30 pm

MrsP wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:I'm glad Ireland aren't playing Samoa this Autumn. That is the strongest Samoan side I've seen.


+1

+1000! They could really take our scalp if they were coming. I'm nervous enough about a very strong Argentina side... I'm guessing Rob Howley isn't going to get this gig long term.
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Post by PenfroPete Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:34 pm

NOTCH - my heart can't take the 'roller coaster' anymore, I've had enough. We have booked or flights, accommodation and tickets for the Italy game in Feb. Think I'll book the Vatican Museum tour for Saturday afternoon - should be fairly quiet. Just vomit

SAMOANS = Head Hunters
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Post by Notch Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:35 pm

Nah you'll still win that game handily enough Penfro- keep your head up!

Does anyone want to tell me what this does to the rankings? Could Samoa make the second tier?
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:36 pm

Normally I'd defend my team to the death but I genuinely have nothing to say about that performance now apart from we need Gatland back.......fans aren't going to pay £70 for a ticket to watch us get smashed.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:37 pm

Notch....6.Arg 7.Ire 8.Wal 9.Sam 10.Sct
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Post by Notch Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:40 pm

Wow, kind of unfair Wales are behind Ireland now. No way are you worse than us but I'll take it if it means our position is more secure.

It helps us both if South Africa beat Scotland, but now we're in seventh I'm even more happy to cheer for the Scots in that one.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:40 pm

At least Tess Daley's dress is cheering me up!!
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Post by MBTGOG Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:41 pm

If Samoa can beat France next week, well, that would really turn things on its head.

Looking forward to the Scotland-Tonga game when that happens.


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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:50 pm

Well Girls Aloud can't mime!!
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Post by MrsP Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:57 pm

prop_lyd wrote:Well Girls Aloud can't mime!!

I remember when groups were criticised for miming instead of singing!!!

Very Happy

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:59 pm

What a win for Samoa, they really wanted that out there tonight.

What on earth has happened to Wales. They were poor in so many areas of the game it was unreal. Priestland is a shadow of the player we saw in the World Cup.

Commiserations to all the Welsh regs. Ale Hug Ale
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:02 pm

I think they were just poor at miming!!

You can tell ed sheeran has his finger in this new one direction song.....basically sung like he's doing it!

Ozzy.......I'll take 6 of those cider please
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Post by rodders Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:03 pm

Cari wrote:Congratulations on the bab Rodders. Tommy's a lovely name for a lad, or Thomasina for a girl... Laugh Wink

Thanks Cari..."we" have already agreed on Ruan Jared McRodders if its a boy..... Whistle

Jeebus just seen the Wales result! Shocked ....checking out the hilights now...need I ask where it went wrong?....
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Post by MrsP Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:04 pm

Where's Lucky?

I was hearing on the radio that there was one polling station in Newport where not one single vote was cast today. I was thinking Lucky could have been famous if only he had exercised his franchise.

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Post by Glas a du Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:33 pm

The more I practice the luckier I get

Gary Player.

The more these lads train the worse they get. It seems that playing matches is an inconvenience to the training schedule. I honestly think that what they are expected to do can not be any fun, because all hwyl has been drained/coached/knocked out of them.

I'd honestly rather see us losing by chucking it about with abandon with a ropey defence, but playing with passion and a smile on our faces coached by Todger Lewis' aunty...
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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:47 pm

Hmmm, where to start with that game.

1 - I was impressed by Samoa's commitment and enterprise.

2 - I was also surprised Samoa didn't draw a yellow in the first half for persistant coming in from the side at rucks. Some of the tackles were borderline and physical, but I've seen worse. The strangle tackle also deserved a yellow.

3 - Gauzere was a wee bit out of his depth, but got the scrum calls ok imo.

4 - Why did Wales not persist carrying the ball into Samoa after the first 3 minutes of the 2nd half??? It was working.

The game was entertaining enough, but if ever Wales wanted to stick their plan A, and exert some pressure inside the oppo's 40m line, this was it.

Coaching? Players not able to read the unfolding game?


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Post by prop_lyd Fri 16 Nov 2012, 10:57 pm

Ok time to shut this down and switch off for a bi before bed...........night All..........let's hope for wins for Sarries, Glaws and Lyd tomorrow!!
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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Fri 16 Nov 2012, 11:10 pm

New pub due soon. A suggestion.

Colwyn Bay where the tier 2 AIs are taking place.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Fri 16 Nov 2012, 11:18 pm

Hound_of_Harrow wrote:New pub due soon. A suggestion.

Colwyn Bay where the tier 2 AIs are taking place.

Will set it up in the morning, I'm off to bed.

Pics of Bob Scott and Malele Kunavore I think.
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Post by perthshirepuma Fri 16 Nov 2012, 11:27 pm

For me, Sa'amoa were just thinking faster/better. I was close to weeping for Ryan, just because I admire him so much as a player and a man, but so many on that pitch were sadly lacking.

Cari, it must have been a good game for neutrals 'cause Mr Puma really enjoyed it. Enjoy your weekend, querida, sounds like your week was better behind you than in front. Hug

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Fri 16 Nov 2012, 11:45 pm

perthshirepuma wrote:For me, Sa'amoa were just thinking faster/better. I was close to weeping for Ryan, just because I admire him so much as a player and a man, but so many on that pitch were sadly lacking.

Cari, it must have been a good game for neutrals 'cause Mr Puma really enjoyed it. Enjoy your weekend, querida, sounds like your week was better behind you than in front. Hug

+1. Ryan Jones was a warrior out there tonight.

Keep the faith. Wales tend to have a bad year after a Slam.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:25 am

I said after the Argentina game that any changes in personnel for the Samoa game would only make so much difference if the gameplan remained the same. Lo and behold...

Just how easy do we want to make it for the opposition? All we did last night (when we weren't kicking away the ball) was play one-up rugby. There was no support play whatsoever, no threat of an offload in the tackle. The ballcarrier was going to take the ball into contact and go to ground. How was this ever going to get us anywhere? All Samoa needed to do was make their tackles.

Our ineptitude in the backs was a betrayal of our footballing heritage. Shouldn't it be second nature to a rugby player that when you have an overlap, you have to commit the defender before you pass? There we were, for the second match in a row, shipping the ball to the winger without committing the Samoan defence, allowing them to drift across to cover him. Clueless doesn't even cover it. These are fundamental skills. What have they been practising in training?

In a way, I'm glad that we lost, as it exposes again how uninspired and easy to contain our gameplan is. When we come up against teams who match us physically, we have no answer. We play no football whatsoever.

The team that played all the rugby won the match, just like last weekend. Samoa were great value for their win and they deserve all the plaudits they get. The team that wanted it more ended up winning. Who'd have thought it?

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:29 am

Oh, and also:

MrsP wrote:I was hearing on the radio that there was one polling station in Newport where not one single vote was cast today. I was thinking Lucky could have been famous if only he had exercised his franchise.

That was in Bettws. I'm pleased to say that I don't live in Bettws. Smile

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:41 am

What's wrong with Bettws lucky? I've done some work there....lovely place, honest!

Morning all, annoyingly wide awake the one day I'm allowed a lie in!!
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Post by Guest Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:56 am

I'm glad that Samoa have come out and said that they knew what they were going to get from us too. Time for Howley to earn his attack coach wage, yet alone his head coach wage when Gatland is away.

It always troubles me watching a team pile into rucks etc with more venom (albeit there's a case to say questionably sometimes) than a home team. Wales want to take a look at that "Protect This House" slogan that Under Armour use (as naff as it is) and actually think about doing it.

Morning anyway. Been in the field all week and my feet and shins are wrecked. Got to go out again from next week too. At least the weather was fairly dry, though we did have to practise patrols through a flooded railway bridge (knee high). That was horrible. It was nice for one of the lads to give me the Welsh team on Thursday though, as it did give me a bit of a lift (though of course it didn't end well).

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Post by Glas a du Sat 17 Nov 2012, 9:13 am

Coaching? Players not able to read the unfolding game?

Not able to and not allowed to. Same diff. Thoroughly depressing.

Lucky, as ever you nailed it.
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Post by Notch Sat 17 Nov 2012, 10:38 am

Just going to watch Wales vs Samoa on the iPlayer, and I've just noticed that Filo Paulo is in the second row for Samoa! Go on you Ulster legend.

He was with us, but he couldn't get a work permit or visa or something so he had to go back to New Zealand. We missed out on a really good lock.
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Post by prop_lyd Sat 17 Nov 2012, 11:54 am

Right time to go let out my frustration on St Julians players....up the Sarries!!
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Post by Cari Sat 17 Nov 2012, 1:33 pm

Hound_of_Harrow wrote:
perthshirepuma wrote:For me, Sa'amoa were just thinking faster/better. I was close to weeping for Ryan, just because I admire him so much as a player and a man, but so many on that pitch were sadly lacking.

Cari, it must have been a good game for neutrals 'cause Mr Puma really enjoyed it. Enjoy your weekend, querida, sounds like your week was better behind you than in front. Hug

+1. Ryan Jones was a warrior out there tonight.

Keep the faith. Wales tend to have a bad year after a Slam.
Hug

Thanks Puma. I'm gutted for R-Jo too. He was so emotional during the anthem, it was such a privilege for him being captain again, but after that game...well that was just a kick in the nadgers.

Hound - I agree with you about the GS wins. I said before didn't I that I blamed Grand Slams.

Afternoon All mug Going to watch the Scots v Saffas in a bit then the Irish match. I've been wide awake since five... Erm

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Post by Cari Sat 17 Nov 2012, 2:13 pm

FFS! Is anyone trying to watch the rugby on the BBC? It's all gone t*ts up. We now have the on-screen message and cheesy lift music. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Notch Sat 17 Nov 2012, 2:19 pm

Good job BBC OK
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Post by Cari Sat 17 Nov 2012, 2:23 pm

If it goes off for the SIXTH time I'll be blydi fuming...it's all about to kick off.

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