England v Fiji - KO 14:30 Sat 10th NOV at HQ - Match Thread/Build Up etc....

[HERSH]

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England team to face Fiji

15. Alex Goode (Saracens, 2 caps)
14. Charlie Sharples (Gloucester Rugby, 2 caps)
13. Manusamoa Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
12. Brad Barritt (Saracens, 7 caps)
11. Ugo Monye (Harlequins, 13 caps)
10. Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers, 50 caps)
9. Danny Care (Harlequins, 33 caps)
1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 3 caps)
2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 0 caps)
3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 31 caps)
4. Tom Palmer (London Wasps, 40 caps)
5. Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers, 8 caps)
6. Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs, 3 caps)
7. Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt, 8 caps)
8. Thomas Waldrom (Leicester Tigers, 2 caps)


Replacements
16. David Paice (London Irish, 2 caps)
17. David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 19 caps)
18. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 0 caps)
19. Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 0 caps)
20. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 9 caps)
21. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 24 caps)
22. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 8 caps)
23. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 7 caps)

[nathan]

Sharples is playing really well.

[Cumbrian]

42- 5 (58 min)

[eirebilly]

England going well then.

Wales are in a hole, they are 23-12 down with 17mins left

[Geordie]

Sharples been class today.

What do people think of tuilagis game

[BamBam]

Great offload from Barritt!

[BamBam]

Sharples been class today.

What do people think of tuilagis game

Seems to be a bit more subtle today, running more at the space and offloading rather than trying to blast his way through. Would like to see him get more ball though

[nathan]

Sharples been class today.

What do people think of tuilagis game

Seems to be a bit more subtle today, running more at the space and offloading rather than trying to blast his way through. Would like to see him get more ball though

yeah I agree with that, he's certainly trying to offload more. there not always coming off though.

[Sgt_Pooly]

Most Ive ever seen Tuilagi pass. Can recall at least 3 occasions now

[Cumbrian]

Aye decent handling from Barritt too.

[nathan]

Most Ive ever seen Tuilagi pass. Can recall at least 3 occasions now

you should watch some more tigers games.

[nathan]

Got to admit, T. Youngs did really well for his debut. Not one bad throw.

[Sgt_Pooly]

Most Ive ever seen Tuilagi pass. Can recall at least 3 occasions now

you should watch some more tigers games.

I've seen plenty thanks.

[Geordie]

Tom youngs was excellent mate.

And on cue tuilagi scores ha

[EnglishReign]

Glos game clearly a blip for Youngs. Excellent today.

[nathan]

any update on the Wales score?

[Geordie]

Decent game...But does it.inspire for.the next 3 weeks....I'm not sure

[nathan]

Got to say, think the ref has doing a really good job too.

[mattygoat]

wales 12 argies 26

[nathan]

Decent game...But does it.inspire for.the next 3 weeks....I'm not sure

to be fair it is there first game back, so I expected them to be a bit rusty. hopefully we'll move on in the next game.

[Barney McGrew did it]

T Youngs' throwing was very good. However Fiji weren't challenging on the England lineout. SA will.

[mattygoat]

any clever sober people know what that means for the rankings if it stays the same?

[nathan]

T Youngs' throwing was very good. However Fiji weren't challenging on the England lineout. SA will.

But it's throwing straight that's been his issue.

[EnglishReign]

Ah, Manu! Sharples was ready to finish off the hattrick!

[nathan]

any clever sober people know what that means for the rankings if it stays the same?

nothing. not sure what it means for wales though.

[Geordie]

Nathan, yeah it is the first game...so it's alright I guess. Anyone really stood out for you...Waldrom .

[mattygoat]

and thats it for the welsh game 12-26

[Ozzy3213]

T Youngs' throwing was very good. However Fiji weren't challenging on the England lineout. SA will.

But it's throwing straight that's been his issue.

Throwing straight has not been his issue, throwing straight under pressure has been his issue. England lineout was not put under pressure by Fiji today. Youngs has had a good debut, really pleased to see it, as we need competition for jerseys.

[nathan]

Nathan, yeah it is the first game...so it's alright I guess. Anyone really stood out for you...Waldrom .

lol, I never said he's had a brilliant game, just that it wasn't as bad as you guys think!

[Cumbrian]

Oops, I was watching the end of the Wales match...

*snigger* *snigger*

[Geordie]

He was ok I'll give u that....Id just think we mist have a better 8 on the country than him.

Seriously though anyone stood out for.you...or any combos

[nathan]

T Youngs' throwing was very good. However Fiji weren't challenging on the England lineout. SA will.

But it's throwing straight that's been his issue.

Throwing straight has not been his issue, throwing straight under pressure has been his issue. England lineout was not put under pressure by Fiji today. Youngs has had a good debut, really pleased to see it, as we need competition for jerseys.

I disagree, at Tigers it's never been pressure dependent on of he throes straight or not.

[Sgt_Pooly]

Nathan, yeah it is the first game...so it's alright I guess. Anyone really stood out for you...Waldrom .

lol, I never said he's had a brilliant game, just that it wasn't as bad as you guys think!

He is!! Lol

Should be nowhere near Int scene.

[nathan]

He was ok I'll give u that....Id just think we mist have a better 8 on the country than him.

Seriously though anyone stood out for.you...or any combos

I think Sharples has stood out, would like to see him and ashton on the wings. Goode has stood out too, think Lancaster was right to choose him over browne.

[nathan]

Nathan, yeah it is the first game...so it's alright I guess. Anyone really stood out for you...Waldrom .

lol, I never said he's had a brilliant game, just that it wasn't as bad as you guys think!

He is!! Lol

Should be nowhere near Int scene.

blah blah blah

[Geordie]

Yeah Goode got his place.v oz.

Sharples impressed me.

The front row.

And I'll swallow my pride...Parling was good.
Lainchbury should start for Palmer.

And whilst Johnson hit the rucks etc....it will be interesting to see him v Oz....jury is still out for me....

[Cumbrian]

I thought Goode stood out, he did what he was supposed to do and made some classy breaks. The front row played well (including the subs). The centres showed a bit better handling (they looked to pass at least). Sharples looked good too.

In phases we looked good at the breakdown, but they kept going to sleep. I think they will up the intensity next week (they'll need to).

[nathan]

I just hope they can start the game running next week, we seem to have a few slow starts.

[Duty281]

Good win that for England. We didn't start playing for the first 15 minutes, but after that it was a fine display. We certainly won by a bigger margin than was expected. Front row was good, the half-backs linked up well, Tuilagi was a machine, Sharples and Goode both impressed. Bring on the Aussies!

Wales lost so even better in that race for 4th spot!

[HERSH]

Professional performance from the boys today

[englandglory4ever]

Waldrom must be knackered now. He was involved in everything everywhere. He had a great game.

[englandglory4ever]

Only downside for me was allowing Fiji to carve through the mid-field untouched near the end which led to their second try. It looked too easy. Something for England to worry about there but overall very good indeed.

[mystiroakey]

Hello my rugby friends --- I am so thick i didnt even realise we were playing today...

7 tries hey- sweet!!!

wales got battered tho

[Duty281]

Forgot to say, Care's sin-binning was an utter joke.

[ultra]

any one else get bored of the constant 'fine physical specimans' nonsense that is consantly bandied about re PI teams? I reckon england far out muscled their opposite numbers and the fiji no. 14 will wake up in a cold sweat for days to come thinking about Monye (great game, surely needs consideration), charging at him!

[englandglory4ever]

Monye was a beast today. He definitely had a point to prove and prove it he did. Ashton, he of the dodgy tackle, could be lucky to get back in the side. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing Sharples and Monye run out for the next match.

[maverickmak]

Waldrom gets some stick, and he would like to forget some aspects of today, but he puts in a serious shift.

A few stats from EPSN: 13 passes, 17 carries, 48 metres, 2 defenders beaten, 2 offloads, 2 turnovers, 10 out of 11 tackles. 2 penalties conceded though.

[ultra]

Waldrom gets some stick, and he would like to forget some aspects of today, but he puts in a serious shift.

A few stats from EPSN: 13 passes, 17 carries, 48 metres, 2 defenders beaten, 2 offloads, 2 turnovers, 10 out of 11 tackles. 2 penalties conceded though.

hmmm....boring, undynamic but quiye good...a sort of kiwi nick easter really?

[Alex_Germany]

I'm a bit annoyed (in Germany). I went all the way into the town to find an "Irish Pub" showing the rugby. Only to find they were watching bloody Bundeslegua football.

The worst thing was, I could have stayed at home and watched Wales get spanked on the BBC.

[gregortree]

I think Mistir was just fraped.

[mystiroakey]

what does fraped mean Tree

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