Ireland vs Argentina, Build-Up and Match Thread

[Notch]

First topic message reminder :

Ireland's date with destiny fast approaches. Win and we are absolutely certain of a Second Tier seeding at the 2015 RWC. Lose... and we are at the mercy of other results. Argentina sit just ahead of us in the World Rankings table in sixth and will also be looking to copper-fasten their spot. There'll be no love lost between the two sides; these games are always confrontational and Argentina have a fair bit of momentum coming into this with a very credible win in Cardiff. They failed to register a win in their debut rugby championship season but the lessons learned make them a much more dangerous beast than the naive bruisers we've faced in the past. They've kept all their passion and physicality, but now have a fine young generation of elusive and skillful backs and a much better balance to their game. Two of those- Horacio Agulla and Lucas Amorosino- have been omitted by Santiago Phelan for this game but watch out for Juan Jose Imhoff and Gonzalo Camacho.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3885_8259078,00.html

Argentina: Marcos Ayerza, Marcelo Bosch, Maximiliano Bustos, Gonzalo Camacho, Manuel Carizza, Santiago Cordero, Agustín Creevy, Tomas Cubelli, Tomas De la Vega, Julio Farias Cabello, Juan Martín Fernandez Lobbe (capt), Santiago Fernandez, Francisco Gomez Kodela, Juan Cruz Guillemain, Eusebio Guinazu, Juan Martin Hernandez, Juan Jose Imhoff, Martín Landajo, Juan Manuel Leguizamon, Tomas Leonardi, Nahuel Lobo, Manuel Montero, Bruno Postiglioni, Federico Sanchez, Leonardo Senatore, Gonzalo Tiesu, Joaquin Tuculet, Tomás Vallejos, Nicolas Vergallo.

Talking of backs, Ireland coach Declan Kidney has a number of decisions to make after a much-changed backline ran rampant against against an admittedly under-strength and uncommitted Fijian side. Media and fans have been clamouring to see more of the likes of Craig Gilroy, Luke Marshall and Paddy Jackson but when he selects his side the Cork man has to counter-balance their obvious potential against the naivety of our last opponents and the value of experience. It would be no surprise if he mainly stuck to the conservative option; expect a few new faces but no radical, fundamental change. He'll be hoping Johnny Sexton recovers from an injury picked up in the warm-up on Saturday; he's scheduled to return to training on Thursday, the same day the team is named.

Teams to be edited in when they are announced. Discuss.

[Cari]

Another penalty POM. Irelands worst player?

Earls would give a run for his money.

It was D'Arcy not so long ago...

DOC seems to be losing his hair.

[westisbest]

Well done mike.

[rodders]

Another penalty POM. Irelands worst player?

Earls would give a run for his money.

Earls has been disappointing again (well not to me because I didn't expect much ), I think O'Mahoney has been ok actually.

Go on Donners! McCarthy has had a super Autumn .

[Cari]

ooh! Fight! Fight! Fight!

Some binnings here? Where were the captains?

[Golden]

Ooooooh Healy wouldnt be the person i would throw a ball at

[eirebilly]

That has to be a yellow

[GunsGerms]

Best players so far Strauss, Gilroy, Darce, Ryan, Henry.

[rodders]

Handbags at 10 paces......

[Golden]

Yup yellow card

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

As poor as the opposition has been Earls has done nothing of note, though his distribution was better than against South Africa. D'Arcy has done very well, Chris Henry as well. The back three have been a bit quiet in the second half. POM has been really disappointing again. Henderson should be on already.

[eirebilly]

Thats what i call a brain fart of the highest order

[Cari]

What a name though...Can see the headlines now - Bustos in Maxi Bust Up

[westisbest]

Here we go a man up lets put 50 on them

[GunsGerms]

Sexton hasnt been good enough at the basics. pretty dissapointed with him.

[rodders]

Best players so far Strauss, Gilroy, Darce, Ryan, Henry.

I think Murray and Sexton have stood out too.

[clivemcl]

Feel wick for that Argie prop. So childish, he will really regret that in the changing room!

[Cari]

...and Bowe...

Is it just me, or is Heaslip not that good a captain?

[asoreleftshoulder]

Ooooooh Healy wouldnt be the person i would throw a ball at

Impressed that he held his temper,not long ago he would have reacted to that.

[Golden]

Italy are within in 3 points of Aus now

[rodders]

Based on this game Ireland should be included in the rugby championship.

[Pot Hale]

Italy were down 22-9 at half time.

They've been slowly chipping away at Australian indiscipline.

Now 19-22. Forza Italia!

[clivemcl]

Shocking miss by earls

[Golden]

Bent on

[Cari]

Italy were down 22-9 at half time.

They've been slowly chipping away at Australian indiscipline.

Now 19-22. Forza Italia!

Woah! Go Italy!!!

[clivemcl]

Henry shows him how to do it

[Pal Joey]

They'll lost at the rate they're are going... Italy on top in all departments.

What's the score in Dublin, anyone please?

[Golden]

39-12 atm

[Cari]

39-12 at 68 minutes Breaker.

[rodders]

Games gone flat, we need another try here...

[Golden]

Reddan and Henderson should come on for the last ten

[eirebilly]

Silly mistake, not straight

[Cari]

Games gone flat, we need another try here...

A cheeky little Tommy intercept would be very welcome...

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Disappointing second half performance. No reason why Kidney hasn't brought some substitutes on. Dreadful missed tackle from Earls. POM is going to injure his neck all the time he spends shaking it at all the mistakes he makes.

[eirebilly]

Very lucky there for Ireland. Gilroy turned.

[Cari]

POM is going to injure his neck all the time he spends shaking it at all the mistakes he makes.

[eirebilly]

Disappointing second half performance. No reason why Kidney hasn't brought some substitutes on. Dreadful missed tackle from Earls. POM is going to injure his neck all the time he spends shaking it at all the mistakes he makes.

You really are a cup half empty type arent you

[Pal Joey]

cheers all.

[Cari]

Awh thought Shane Gilroy was in again then.

[kiakahaaotearoa]

Good on Ireland. Nice to see you boys have something to cheer about. A performance that hopefully will give you confidence going into the 6N.

As for Australia Italy, sorry but I'm off to see the end of that game.

[Golden]

ROG?????????/

[Cari]

Henderson
Reddan
ROG

Here come the subs...

[eirebilly]

Aahhh the token ROG cap

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Disappointing second half performance. No reason why Kidney hasn't brought some substitutes on. Dreadful missed tackle from Earls. POM is going to injure his neck all the time he spends shaking it at all the mistakes he makes.

You really are a cup half empty type arent you

I'm not overly impressed with Ireland today in truth. Argentina have been as dreadful as Fiji.

[Golden]

There you go cari

[westisbest]

Tommy's the man

[Cari]

YAY!!!! TOMMY TWO TRIES STRIKES AGAIN.

[eirebilly]

Brilliant stuff from Earls

[neilthom7]

Cari's gunna meltdown

[wales606]

It's Gilroys day - Tommy, stop ruining it

[Cari]

There you go cari

Aye, never lets me down. OK it wasn't a cheeky intercept, but I'm not complaining

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