Ireland vs Argentina, Build-Up and Match Thread

[Notch]

First topic message reminder :

Ireland's date with destiny fast approaches. Win and we are absolutely certain of a Second Tier seeding at the 2015 RWC. Lose... and we are at the mercy of other results. Argentina sit just ahead of us in the World Rankings table in sixth and will also be looking to copper-fasten their spot. There'll be no love lost between the two sides; these games are always confrontational and Argentina have a fair bit of momentum coming into this with a very credible win in Cardiff. They failed to register a win in their debut rugby championship season but the lessons learned make them a much more dangerous beast than the naive bruisers we've faced in the past. They've kept all their passion and physicality, but now have a fine young generation of elusive and skillful backs and a much better balance to their game. Two of those- Horacio Agulla and Lucas Amorosino- have been omitted by Santiago Phelan for this game but watch out for Juan Jose Imhoff and Gonzalo Camacho.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3885_8259078,00.html

Argentina: Marcos Ayerza, Marcelo Bosch, Maximiliano Bustos, Gonzalo Camacho, Manuel Carizza, Santiago Cordero, Agustín Creevy, Tomas Cubelli, Tomas De la Vega, Julio Farias Cabello, Juan Martín Fernandez Lobbe (capt), Santiago Fernandez, Francisco Gomez Kodela, Juan Cruz Guillemain, Eusebio Guinazu, Juan Martin Hernandez, Juan Jose Imhoff, Martín Landajo, Juan Manuel Leguizamon, Tomas Leonardi, Nahuel Lobo, Manuel Montero, Bruno Postiglioni, Federico Sanchez, Leonardo Senatore, Gonzalo Tiesu, Joaquin Tuculet, Tomás Vallejos, Nicolas Vergallo.

Talking of backs, Ireland coach Declan Kidney has a number of decisions to make after a much-changed backline ran rampant against against an admittedly under-strength and uncommitted Fijian side. Media and fans have been clamouring to see more of the likes of Craig Gilroy, Luke Marshall and Paddy Jackson but when he selects his side the Cork man has to counter-balance their obvious potential against the naivety of our last opponents and the value of experience. It would be no surprise if he mainly stuck to the conservative option; expect a few new faces but no radical, fundamental change. He'll be hoping Johnny Sexton recovers from an injury picked up in the warm-up on Saturday; he's scheduled to return to training on Thursday, the same day the team is named.

Teams to be edited in when they are announced. Discuss.

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Jeez that was bad defence from Argentina, but a nice grubber kick from Earls.

[neilthom7]

Some things die hard apparently the stadium announcer iust said that conversion was scored by No 10 Ronan O'Gara

[Golden]

Yikes poor from Zebo there

[Golden]

Try for Argentina

[eirebilly]

Thats a try

[Cari]

Some things die hard apparently the stadium announcer iust said that conversion was scored by No 10 Ronan O'Gara

Ah he was just announcing his IQ...

Puma try?

46-19

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Very poor defence from Heaslip and two of the subs

[westisbest]

C'mon 1 more try to get past 50 points

[Cari]

There's still time...two minutes and a lot can happen in that time. A ROG DG?

[clivemcl]

Any update on Italy anyone?

[clivemcl]

Ha ROG!

[eirebilly]

Its been an entertaining match but i am really upset at the referee and his assistents.

ROG

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Oh ROG

[Golden]

Any update on Italy anyone?

Still 19-22 ten minutes to go

[neilthom7]

A couple of mins to go Clive Australia still lead 22-19

[wales606]

Italy 19 - 22 Aus

Sounds like an interesting game

3 - 3 at Murrayfield though

Eng 6 - 16 RSA

[Artful_Dodger]

O'Gara

Every game in his last 5 he goes for those dinks over the opposition line and it hasnt worked once.

[eirebilly]

Poor from Ireland at the end, really switched off.

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Awk thats very poor defence.

[Golden]

Disappointing way to end the match

[Pot Hale]

Congrats Ireland.

A well deserved victory. The last two tries were unfortunate but game was well over and won.

[Notch]

Disappointing to allow them two very soft tries in the last few minutes.

They still lose by 22 points, which is a MAJOR blow to Argentina in the rankings! They now face a nervous wait to see how things pan out elsewhere.

[westisbest]

Bye bye rog

[Morgannwg]

A 20 point win over Argentina. I didn't see this coming! Very well played today Ireland.

[Artful_Dodger]

O'Gara is such a tool.....that was nearly a record margin against Argentina squandered.

[Cari]

Pumas get a try in the 80th minute. I partly blame the crowd for that. Counting down, then cheering, I wonder if some Irish players thought the game was finished when it wasn't?

46-24. FT.

MOTM?

[asoreleftshoulder]

A 20 point win over Argentina. I didn't see this coming! Very well played today Ireland.

Join the queue,there wasn't any reason to expect that.

[Golden]

Donnacha Ryan was MOTM

[Golden]

Donnacha ryan! what a gent

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Donnacha Ryan was excellent, well worthy of MOTM. I thought Cian Healy was outstanding as well, and Chris Henry was also very good.

[Cari]

Donnacha Ryan was MOTM

Not according to the BBC - Inverdale says it was Gilroy.

Tommy? Slack? Pfft! Gussett!

[eirebilly]

Well thats it for Ireland for another year

[Pot Hale]

Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Build-Up and Match Thread
by Pot Hale on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:18 pm

With the two sides fielded, I predict at least four/five tries in this match.

And Gilroy will score one of them.

And the bookies don't love me. But my barman does.

[Golden]

Donnacha Ryan was MOTM

Not according to the BBC - Inverdale says it was Gilroy.

Tommy? Slack? Pfft! Gussett!

Oh?

Well he was definitely RTEs MOTM, just gave the interview

[Pal Joey]

The Wallabies must have been on the sauce in Florence, absolutely no structure whatsoever, stuffing everything up, getting in each other's way. A bloody circus of errors.

Full credit to Italy though. They have dominated possession, field position, made more breaks... hard to believe it's the same Australia as last week, which it isn't of course.

Wales will be licking their leeks.....

[Cari]

Fairdo's to Inverdale, he's the only one who seems to bring up Kidney's leadership.

Well done Ireland.

Gutted I'm not going to get Chilli's boots though

[neilthom7]

I wouldn't listen to Inverdale or Guscott tbh Cari and I wonder does Jeremy Guscott know hw is going to have an angry Ospreys supporter outside his house tonight lol

[Cari]

Donnacha Ryan was MOTM

Not according to the BBC - Inverdale says it was Gilroy.

Tommy? Slack? Pfft! Gussett!

Oh?

Well he was definitely RTEs MOTM, just gave the interview

I don't doubt it. I think Inverdale got it very wrong. Gilroy was interviewed, but there was no MOTM mentioned.

Just gone onto the Red Button for the Scottish match.

[Golden]

Australia are a man down with 3 minutes to go. Still only 3 points in it.

come on Italy!!!

[neilthom7]

Penalty to Italy, Digby Ioane has been yellowed, Orquera takes the kick and MISSES , 1 min to go. Italy 19-22 Australia

[Cari]

6-3 in Scotland.

Neil - ah Gussett is a tool. You can see it makes him pig sick to say anything positive about Wales....maybe he doesn't rate Tommy cause he lived in Wales for four years

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Awk Italy! One minute left, straightforward penalty to level up the scores and they miss.

[Cari]

Penalty to Italy, Digby Ioane has been yellowed, Orquera takes the kick and MISSES , 1 min to go. Italy 19-22 Australia

Awh schitt. They'll be kicking themselves.

[neilthom7]

Australia hang on to win Aus 22-19 iTALY

[Golden]

Australia win by 3 points

[Cari]

Frustrating for Italy - but what a result for them! It just means Wales will cop it next week...

[Pal Joey]

Well done Ireland.
I'll watch it in a few hours.

Missed penalty for Italy to tie it up. Oz now pressing the line... 80th min.
Barnes kicks it out. Jeezus. Horrible performance from us, Italy probably deserved it. 22-19 FT

[Notch]

Italy beat Australia? That is massive!

Forza Italia. Commiserations LB.

Scotland 6-3 Tonga, second half just about to start in the freezing cold of Aberdeen. Another upset on the cards?

[Argie fan]

Great win Ireland, congratulations
Enjoy it

[Cari]

Notch - no, Oz won but only by three points.

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