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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 3:12 pm

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Breaking News: Sale Sharks go into the top 4 for the first time this season after beating Worcester Warriors at home.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 9:42 pm

Total turnaround in scrum, Biarritz smashed them first 50/60 mins. Biarritz TH and Hook have been replaced and don't look much cop tbh.

Barcella was ruining the Connacht TH every scrum.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 14 Dec 2012, 10:38 pm

This is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4fh8MstXNH4

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 14 Dec 2012, 11:36 pm

I wouldn't say everytime Pooly....definately when the ref wasn't on his side he was destroying him!

Just picked the other half up from her Christmas do...safe to say she was smashed and I'm owed a lift!!
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Post by Guest Sat 15 Dec 2012, 2:58 am

I own balshaw prop ? Had him from driver. Beating Connacht in scrum nowt to brag about. Barcella been awful all year. No longer carries. Used to be best prop ever seen. Injuries ruined him. Really sad as he was that good

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 9:10 am

Barcella hasn't been awful at all, I suspect you haven't seen him if that's your opinion. He started slowly but has got better and better this season.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 15 Dec 2012, 9:33 am

Sorry Matt i've got him on other game!
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Dec 2012, 1:37 pm

Quick quesiton, whilst Hayman is out injured who do you think is my best tight head I could play?

Also wonder how people are rating Tait playing at 15 as he's keeping Geordan Murphy out the Tigers starting XV there at the minute and also what people think of Benvenuti of Treviso - he played well v Tigers last week and I wanted to play him at 13 this week instead of de Villiers, but didnt risk it!

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Dec 2012, 1:49 pm

Leicester just got the try of this years HC - Ben Youngs with a cracking brake from his own try line!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 2:03 pm

Kepu your next best TH Chris I'd go with him. Solid enough at the set piece
so wouldn't be a weakness

First time Tait has strung 3/4 games together. Looks a little shaky defensively needs a few more games I think.

Like the young Italian looked good last week but haven't seen much of him the few times I've seen Treviso play Rabo this season. Fine for the AW but I wouldn't be playing him in the league yet


Delighted to see Kakovin starting for Toulouse. Hes killing the Ospreys TH today! Very promising LH but was out injured for a few months unfortunately

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 2:05 pm

Silly from Albacete!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 2:10 pm

Medard looking very very shaky

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Dec 2012, 2:26 pm

Cheers SJE, always good to get feedback like that!

Is good to see Tait back, didnt realise he'd missed 16 months of rugby and still only 26.

Tigers need to up their game second half, some awful decisions by Rolland (surprise surprise) - awarding a penalty try from 12-15metres out. Shocking call but Treviso looking very good.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 2:59 pm

Toulouse halfbacks been very poor. Burgess in particular has looked terrible

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 3:02 pm

Eli Walker deserved that try. Been the best player on the pitch!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 3:06 pm

Lovely try saver from young Fickou

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Dec 2012, 3:10 pm

Good player that Fickou, only 18 isn't he?

Ben Youngs passing and decision making well off the boil today - did one amazing break but just isn't making things easy for Tigers.

Going to be a tight finish, but another Rolland howler might have swung it back Tigers way!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 3:25 pm

Terrible from Burgess again! You've got a great prospect on your hands there Prop with young Walker

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 3:28 pm

Yeah hes only 18 Chris. Serious talent!

Good win for the Ospreys. Biggar and Walker the stars. Toulouse had the better of the packs and were great defensively but no direction what so ever from the halfbacks

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Dec 2012, 3:44 pm

Amazing to being playing HC rugby at 18, only seen him play twice but looks like he's got a great rugby brain too.

Tigers game was a bit of a weird one, Rolland made 3 bad decisions that messed the game up, a bizarre penalty try decision for Treviso.

Leicester didn't play well at all, only player who did well for them was really George Ford, though Louis Deacon put in a pretty good shift!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 4:19 pm

Well deserved try for Clermount lovely break from SIvivatau

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 4:56 pm

Leinster in serious trouble. Could be going out here!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:13 pm

Ford wasn't good at all.

I think the Toulouse right wing went to the same defense school as Sharples, Walker just eased past him on numerous occasions.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:19 pm

Michael Lynagh sung his praises all game. Weird.

Clermont have been immense in this game, can't remember the last time a team played so well against Leinster at their home ground. Parra just pulls the strings and they are so good at getting their strike runners involved - got to be between them and Toulon.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:20 pm

Yea strange, must be the stroke.

Tigers were pretty poor 1-15

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Post by Driver Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:21 pm

Just got home from Newcastle match , What was Tigers game like?

Thought they would struggle over there with Ford at 10. Especially with Trevisos packs
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:27 pm

Badly needed try for Leinster. Still have a shot at best runners up. Great performance for Clermount. Were just too strong in the front 5

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:28 pm

Ford controlled the game very well Driver, mixed up his game and made quite a few breaks. Played very well in the last three games he's played - only missing one kick at a game at the moment!

Bit of a weird game, conditions didn't help, a load of mistakes think Allen made 5 knock ons, which he never does. Treviso were very physical and Tigers did well to grind out a win.

There was one bit of magic from Youngs, but his service was really poor today, passing behind the player - tough conditions for him though. The try he set up was one of the best tries you will see in the HC this season though.

Louis Deacon did well, Tigers never looked like conceding a try - would say Tigers are missing a top class player in their backthree though, as Morris, Tait and Thompstone wont win them big games.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:34 pm

Ford was poor as we're most of the line up, they got lucky with the win. Tigers pack is very ordinary this season, especially the backrow.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:36 pm

Wasn't somebody knocking Parra's form? Possibly not now, he's been great all season too

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Post by Driver Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:37 pm

How did Shane Jennings do??? Best NH player on the deck for me.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:59 pm

Anyone see Saints fronting up??

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:59 pm

Parra been great when I've seen him. Not seen a 9 close to his form except maybe Care pre AI's.

Jennings alright but I don't see him performing regularly. Was unreal for Leinster in 2011 HC final.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:02 pm

really hope Saints make a game of this.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:04 pm

Me too Steve or Ulster will steam roller them.

Good start anyway

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:07 pm

Lawes been dropped?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:08 pm

Best overthowing again

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:08 pm

Haha I knew you'd say that

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:09 pm

It's the scrum I'm fancying. Haywood is a bit powder puff but should be a real contest

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:11 pm

Great turnover Best

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:12 pm

I like Haywood. Alwways impressed me. Great turnovers from Best and Clark respectively. What May was doing I don't know

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:24 pm

defence from Trimble their was a mess. Come on Saints!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:28 pm

Haywood is canny but no hooker, very lightweight

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:29 pm

Lawes was dropped, he was poor last week mind

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Post by Driver Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:31 pm

Not been that impressed by him, skipped through some poor tackles and that was it.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:36 pm

Lawes tends to live off reputation a little, I'm still not convinced with him at lock for England. Will take a big push to oust Parling/Launchbury as they make an excellent combo. Parling has stepped up massively, cracking player.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:39 pm

Paddy Jackson is dreadfully average

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:41 pm

No way Steve!! Lol

Jackson is outstanding, goal kicking is iffy but general play very good.

Good scrum battle, nice shove from PDJ after losing bind. Afoa/Tonga cancelling each other out so far

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:43 pm

I don't rate him at all. Pienaar and Paddy Wallace (who has stepped up massively in 2012) make him looked better.

He will be the weaklink in Ulster's assault on the HC.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:46 pm

when on earth did Tom May get his cap?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 15 Dec 2012, 6:49 pm

I think he'll overtake Sexton within 18 month, think he's a class act.

Bad times if you're needing Pady Wallace to make you look good.

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