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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 8:25 pm

Hartley 2 weeks as expected, total joke.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 9:17 pm

Why's it a joke. Bang on the mark for my money, it was a nothing incident.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 9:17 pm

Vuinipola is very poor tonight, basics and decision making not there

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 9:18 pm

Deserved much more imo, numerous strikes and history.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 9:33 pm

Great work Haskell/Masi

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 9:38 pm

Launchbury just keeps getting better

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 13 Dec 2012, 10:32 pm

Hartley didnt deserve more than two weeks, it was a nothing incident and reading the reasoning of the panel it is spot on. Should receive a ban for stupidity though - from 5 years ago he's improved a hell of a lot.

Pleased with how Wasps are going - Vunipola becoming more and more influential with his carrying and physical presence for us now - Young is bringing through the youngsters so well at the moment, Launchbury, Vunipola, Wade and Daly especially - James Cannon has started to come on now, but also seen big improvements in Simpsons game.

Much better team with Stephen Jones at no10, never realised just how good he was until you watch him play week in week out (when he isnt injured!). If he stays fit I think we are a top 6 team.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 10:37 pm

Vuinipola carries....not much else tbh. Bit of an idiot tonight

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 13 Dec 2012, 10:46 pm

Yet he still keeps Haskell and Ashley Johnson out of the starting no8 shirt at Wasps - must carry pretty well to be able to do that.

For a 20 year old I don't think you can fault him really as rest of the game will come, certainly has the Pacific Island smash in him though!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:02 pm

Haskell was captain no?? Vuinipola keeps Haskell out of the side??

You can fault him, he's got crap basics and no rugby brain

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Post by Driver Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:04 pm

He is just a bit of a meat head.

Tui'fuia at Falcons is a better player along with Chris York at 8.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:06 pm

Tui is 10x the player Vuinipola is, he's a bit brainless sometimes too lol

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Post by Driver Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:09 pm

Tui'fuia is awesome , blokes a tank. Carved Wales up the other week.
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Post by Driver Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:10 pm

Beasty pack now at Falcons

Shiells
Vickers mad
Tomas
Del Fava
Hudson
York/Hogg
Welch
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:12 pm

That pack would get hammered in AP though. Ona par with the likes of Sale's maybe

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Post by stnick88 Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:16 pm

It's not too bad. Better than welsh. What's the backline like now? That's where u struggled a lot last year.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:17 pm

Del Fava, Welch, Tui are the picks but we need to improve.

Del Fava is excellent, would be a good signing for most teams.

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Post by Driver Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:18 pm

I don't think it would , i can think of many locks with a better lineout game than Hudson in the AP and Shiells/Tomas smashed every scrum in front of them this year.

Plus we have Semore Kurdi plowing cash into the club.

9.Lawson
10.Gopperth/Hodgson
11.Catterick
12.Tui'polotu
13.Crockett
14.Fielden/Higgens
15.Tait/Fielden/Goppereth
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:23 pm

We wouldn't be bottom of AP, Richards has got us playing well.

We would be bottom 4/5 though, need a few good signings.

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Post by Driver Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:25 pm

Check us out on Sky on Sunday 23rd against London Scottish , smash teams in the rolling maul
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 13 Dec 2012, 11:30 pm

Pooly do you actually read people's comments before slating what they say lol.

Vunipola is Wasps starting no8, Haskell plays either 6 or 7 - he was openside today.

Baffled at times by your criticisms of players, to say Vunipola has crap basics, certain after the first 8 AP games he had the most successful offloads, yards carried for a forward etc.

I could understand criticisms of his decision making - but all the rest will come, compare him this year to last and the boy is making huge improvements - he'll get England caps - Ward-Smith wrote a very good piece about him last week.

Ward-Smith would have been a cracking player if he didnt do his knees in, when he was at Bristol he was so dynamic and powerful - great player to watch, hands not so, but still...


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Post by stnick88 Fri 14 Dec 2012, 8:40 am

Richards has definitely helped, but you would be in a relegation battle with us, sale and welsh.




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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 9:46 am

Yea think he's pretty pump Chris. Strong in the carry but just a fat lump with little else.

I do read comments but you tend to write a lot so I just skim, try trimming it down a bit and getting to the point rather than gibbering on.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 14 Dec 2012, 10:05 am

Anyone interested in Olly Morgan? Don't want the world for him
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Post by Guest Fri 14 Dec 2012, 10:55 am

20 minutes in on the wasps game. wow Billy vunipola is monster keeps improving. where are wasps ggetting all these kids like Jones Daly launch etc

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 14 Dec 2012, 10:59 am

Vunipola is a huge player for us now Mat, still learning but compare him to last year and there has been a massive improvement. Came back from the summer after losing a load of weight, as before hand he could last 50minutes at most.

Can't believe Quins let Launch go - they released him when he was 18 and then he went to play for a team coached by a former Wasps player and he told Wasps that if they didn't sign him up straight away would be the biggest mistake made by a rugby club. Very surprised how quickly he has come along though!

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Post by stnick88 Fri 14 Dec 2012, 11:14 am

toulon sign habana for next season.


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Post by Guest Fri 14 Dec 2012, 11:35 am

Ouch that's a serious signing. Toulon are favourites with clermont for heino this year

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 11:56 am

Billy V is useless man, wait till the 2nd half!

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 14 Dec 2012, 1:08 pm

The team is up for tomorrow:
Rob Cook; Charlie Sharples, Mike Tindall, Billy Twelvetrees, Shane Monahan; Freddie Burns, Jimmy Cowan; Dan Murphy, Darren Dawidiuk, Rupert Harden; Will James, Jim Hamilton (capt); Tom Savage, Akapusi Qera, Ben Morgan

Replacements:

Koree Britton, Nick Wood, Shaun Knight, Sione Kalamafoni, Matt Cox, Dan Robson, Tim Molenaar, Martyn Thomas


Bring it on Ozzy boxing
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 1:10 pm

Wood dropped again, what's going on there Prop?

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Post by Guest Fri 14 Dec 2012, 1:27 pm

Wood started last week. Struggling a bit for fitness and murphy has been outstanding.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 1:28 pm

Murphy seems to start the big games, looks like he's came on leaps.

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Post by Guest Fri 14 Dec 2012, 1:34 pm

Good battle between them. Wood keeps picking up niggles. He came away with one when called up by England for the Nz game the other week.

Frustrating but murphy has stepped up big time!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 1:39 pm

Can be only good, Wood has played stacks of games over the last few seasons. Sure he used to be 6'2"

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Post by Guest Fri 14 Dec 2012, 2:03 pm

His injury last year was bought about by playing far too much. Him and harden over worked last year. Knight and Murphy stepped up well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 3:19 pm

Quite a few changes for Saints:


Saints team to play Ulster, Heineken Cup, Ravenhill, Saturday, December 15, ko 6pm: Ben Foden; Ken Pisi, George Pisi, Tom May, Jamie Elliott; Stephen Myler, Lee Dickson; Soane Tonga’uiha, Mike Haywood, Paul Doran-Jones, Samu Manoa, Calum Clark, Tom Wood, Phil Dowson, GJ Van Velze.

Replacements: Ross McMillan, Alex Waller, Brian Mujati, Mark Sorenson, Courtney Lawes, Martin Roberts, Ryan Lamb, Luther Burrell

Mujati drops out after struggling in scrum although Haywood coming in will be tough. Dickson recalled too.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 14 Dec 2012, 4:03 pm

To be fair I think murphy is one of our top scorers too!!
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Post by Guest Fri 14 Dec 2012, 4:54 pm

Yes he Is prop. Loves those trundles over the line.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 14 Dec 2012, 5:30 pm

Just want you want from a prop!! I have been really impressed with him and how Savage has blossomed....future captain I'd say (savage).
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 14 Dec 2012, 7:08 pm

Toulon's bench vs Sale...

16 Sebastien Bruno
17 Andrew Sheridan
18 Carl Hayman
19 Jose Suta
20 Mathieu Bastareaud
21 JMF Lobbe
22 Jonny Wilkinson
23 Simon Shaw

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Post by Driver Fri 14 Dec 2012, 7:10 pm

Why dont they sort there bench properly , unless Shawsy is going out on the wing!
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Post by Driver Fri 14 Dec 2012, 7:13 pm

Sep Visser named on the bench for Edinburgh tonight , boys got massive talent.
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Post by Driver Fri 14 Dec 2012, 7:15 pm

Robbie Henshaw at 15 for Connacht meant to have a bit about him. Only 21 i think?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 8:06 pm

Great Rugby conditions in the south of France

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 8:21 pm

Barcella murdering Connacht TH, popping up every other scrum. Ref just guessing whats going on I think.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 14 Dec 2012, 8:53 pm

Said in another thread that Parks shouldn't have rushed up for Balshaw's try. I'd say Connacht need to kick low and hard in the 2nd half because the ball isn't bouncing.

Conditions look awesome! Barcella doing very well scrummaging low then pushing Connacht up, needs to make sure he doesn't get done for standing up himself (he's been done once).
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 14 Dec 2012, 8:56 pm

Yea it was odd that one Prop, he tried to whel then pushed him up. Puts some immense pressure in from the LH side, such a destructive scrummager.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 14 Dec 2012, 8:57 pm

He is. I've been impressed with Harris-Wright lately, been putting in good darts.
I know he's my player but Balshaw's been impressive in these conditions too.
Lund likes to put it about, had a couple of off the ball scuffles already!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 14 Dec 2012, 9:33 pm

Connacht just ruined the scrum then

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