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Breaking News: Sale Sharks go into the top 4 for the first time this season after beating Worcester Warriors at home.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:32 pm

Off to Wales England in march and can't wait !

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Post by Driver Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:35 pm

Derby games are fantastic,

50/50 about going to rome if we draw Lazio in europa league
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:40 pm

I wouldn't go to Rome driver. Animals. Wouldn't go near Italy for a football game.

I'm off to HC final on a stag. Have last exam friday morning, fly to dublin afternoon and then two nights there. cannot wait

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Post by Guest Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:42 pm

Rome so much cheaper now euro fecked.

If you go I can tell you where to go. Best 6 nations trip. Heard its awful for football. Friend went to spurs game and also Italy vs Wales befor and had terrible abuse and attacks

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:44 pm

Have to disagree on Newcastle fans driver. Like a pantomime crowd. Would rather boo opposition players than support their own which isn't on. Like United fans, they sing more songs about scousers and city than they do about Ferguson.


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Post by Guest Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:45 pm

Steve do you have to tickets ?!

We do HC final every year and also challenge cup as same weekend ( although often don't attend )

We could not get tickets this year due to Leinster fans buying all tickets.

I have flights and hotels and no tickets. If you have tickets I will buy them double face value?

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Post by Driver Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:47 pm

I got a ticket last uear from a pitchero raffle but only got email thurs before so could not go. Was only 2 tickets aswell
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:48 pm

guys who's stag it was bought about 20 so have got one. Not my tickets so not like I could sell them. Don't think Leinster will make final as they will have to go to either Clermont or Toulon in semis i suspect so im sure they will free up

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Post by Guest Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:49 pm

We need 6 but if we get any will raffle amongst us

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Post by CJB Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:51 pm

Driver, the reason Chelsea fans are Poopie against Newcastle is we always Frak lose. Been to last 3 Newcastle games at home. Not one win. Usually away we are quite good i find but at home less so especially from the view of the away fans who sit next to the family stand which is the quietest stand

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Post by Driver Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:52 pm

Man utd fans are gash, when they played us they sang about torres?!?!

We dont sing as much about other teams as we used to a lot of signing now is about geordie,demba ba and colo
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Post by Guest Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:53 pm

Steve if they do let me know. Likewise If anyone wants 6 nations ai tickets let me know.

We have 24-28 tickets per game and often struggle to get rid so I use them for work. If we don't purchase every ticket they reduced allocation. 6 nations tickets gone but ai's come available June time

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:55 pm

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:56 pm

Will do matt but they will never sell them. About 30 going and only half or so have tickets

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Post by Driver Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:58 pm

Really?

Thats disgusting? Was it the cheslins who gouged?

Clubs in a massive rut at the momemt, getting worse by the week dropped theyre 4th team off and now only have 3 senior sides.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 17 Dec 2012, 12:00 am

wasn't there but that was what has been said. Going down fighting by all accounts.

Cheslin and Rollins banned. One of their locks the worst for it apparently

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Post by Driver Mon 17 Dec 2012, 12:02 am

Be chocky from the locks, canny bloke but a bit of a nutter on the pitch.

Was banned for a year a few years back for gouging or striking someone? Cant remember
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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2012, 1:55 am

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8337628,00.html bad news for lions. Been dire for nearly 2 years but exceptional for
about 5 weeks and then toss for ages. Such a shame as been looking back to normal.used to be a great player

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Post by stnick88 Mon 17 Dec 2012, 8:35 am

liverpool football fans are great.

chelseas are poor, 'we know what we areeeeee' is all they sung when i went to stamford for the fulham game the other week. so dull.

reading fans the worst. so quiet. madejski has no atmosphere, terrible at most rugby games. paddys day is good fun. facilities are good there though which is all i care about.


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Post by prop_lyd Mon 17 Dec 2012, 9:21 am

I'm hoping to get over to Dublin too for a big meet up with some others. If Glos make it to Amlin final I'll fight tooth and nail for a ticket!!
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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2012, 9:51 am

Believe prop glos will be kings of Europe !

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Post by stnick88 Mon 17 Dec 2012, 10:12 am

could well be AP champions as well.

Of all the teams I've seen Irish play this season, Glos have looked the best.

Yet to play Leicester yet though.

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 17 Dec 2012, 10:24 am

All about the belief Matt!! Now that would make Dublin a good trip!!
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Post by stnick88 Mon 17 Dec 2012, 11:07 am

anyone know where u can watch heineken highlights/tries online?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 17 Dec 2012, 11:15 am

Don't think he'd have started to tests Matt. Reckon it will likely be North and Visser. Although Ashton on top for me gets the nod.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 17 Dec 2012, 11:18 am

North and Visser is too one dimensional for me. Just big strong runners. Ashton has more about him.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 17 Dec 2012, 11:21 am

everyone seen planetrugbys team of the year?

1 Taumalolo
2 Strauss
3 Cole
4 Etzebeth
5 Sharpe
6 Lobbe
7 McCaw
8 Read
9 Fotauli'i
10 Carter
11 Savea
12 SBW
13 Smith
14 Habana
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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2012, 11:31 am

Pretty accurate team. A rarity for planet rugby. Sbw only played half year but was good

Maybe Bosch over smith

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 17 Dec 2012, 11:43 am

Readers team I think, not their team?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 17 Dec 2012, 12:12 pm

I'd be tempted to match North with someone in the mould of Gilroy, Ashton or Wade (not Wade before someone explodes, but someone like him).

But Visser is playing well by all accounts.

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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2012, 12:22 pm

I have been proven wrong about visser he has been great. Agree we need a Balance.

Gilroy will get a lot of starts with bowe injured so Interested how he develops.

North been poor this season but would be the most likely starter

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 17 Dec 2012, 12:28 pm

I don't think Ashton will start personally, he's not looked in form for a while.

Cuthbert has been much better than North but North better on form.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 17 Dec 2012, 12:37 pm

I wonder if May will get a shot in the 6N, love to see him involved

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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2012, 1:28 pm

May needs to get fit to be considered for England. Has to get place off morohan!

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 17 Dec 2012, 1:30 pm

Anyone think Quins have got a chance in the HC this year? I know that they are in the easy group etc, but they are going to have a home qf and I think a home sf from the draw.

Can't see beyond Clermont or Toulon this year, but is nice to see three English clubs top of their groups after 4 games - not sure if it will stay that way by game 6 mind!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 17 Dec 2012, 1:41 pm

Imagine North/May......Jesus

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 17 Dec 2012, 1:45 pm

May's class, shame we havent seen much of him this year but he could be the complete player - has he settled on wing now?

England definitely need a spark in the backline like him, as apart from Tuilagi and Youngs I don't think we had anyone in the backline who could make something happen out of nothing.

Wonder if they will look at Wade for the 6Nations, guy has been sensational of late - trouble is I see him as someone who could get 2-3 tries in games against lesser teams, but man handled by teams like NZ or SA.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 17 Dec 2012, 1:48 pm

I have my reservations about Wade but you can't argue about his performances in the AP, he deserves a chance at least.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 17 Dec 2012, 1:52 pm

May just looks like he has that extra class, might be another Sharples but will more than likely be amazing. Can't wait to see him in England shirt

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Post by stnick88 Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:08 pm

I'd like to see one of May or Wade involved. Not overly impressed with Sharples, want a bit more spark.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:08 pm

Wade does well against most teams, can tackle solidly and improved massively against the high kick, but would worry about how he would deal with someone like Savea, Gear etc.

Most exciting runner I think I have ever seen for a club team though.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:10 pm

I really like Sharples, another who has been unlucky with injuries - Gloucester produce a heck of a lot of backs - Robson, Burns, Mills, May, Sharples and a load more. Really like Mills, could be a very good player.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:11 pm

He's not really been tested Chris, could be spot on or could get torn to shreds like Sharples did off Cummins.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:25 pm

Get Wade in straight away. Complete dynamite. Holds his own in contact too.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:27 pm

Didnt think Sharples did that badly tbh, whole team was very poor v the Aussies.

Wade has really improved this year - seems like it is every other week that he gets try of the week in the AP (Varndell all the others...).

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Post by stnick88 Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:35 pm

Varndell is a devastating finisher, but think AP level may be his limit. Good player though.

Wade is different class. Needs to be given a go during 6N, nothing to lose.

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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:41 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:He's not really been tested Chris, could be spot on or could get torn to shreds like Sharples did off Cummins.


Dear oh dear pooly you talk drivel sometimes. Sharples defence stats in that game were same as browns against nz.

Whole England team were poor and we had very little quality ball.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:46 pm

Varndell has come on very well at Wasps last 2-3 seasons, can actually defend now! He doesn't work enough though as he stays out on his wing too much and Austin Healy always makes a good point about him saying that if he had that extra physicality about him then he'd be a world class winger.

Wasps have been so good to watch this year, if we could get a new prop and hooker we'd be a top team again. Huge difference when Stephen Jones plays too, as Robinson has lost us a lot of games with his kicking (or lack of!). Think there has only been one game we've lost and not got a losing BP.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:49 pm

Quick question Chris hows young Tommy Bell getting on for Wasps this year?

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 17 Dec 2012, 2:58 pm

Undecided with him so far SJE, we play him in too many positions 10, 12 and 15 so he hasn't really settled anywhere and doesnt tend to get a run of games together.

Played some good games at 10, but can't see him getting as much game time now as Stephen Jones is fit and Robinson will be on the bench and Young will play Daly at 15 if Southwell gets injured.

Can see him featuring a lot next year though, imagine fb could be his position as got a good boot on him.

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