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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 3:12 pm

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Breaking News: Sale Sharks go into the top 4 for the first time this season after beating Worcester Warriors at home.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 23 Dec 2012, 9:22 pm

Burns probably as we stand.


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Post by Guest Sun 23 Dec 2012, 9:25 pm

Saracens mint at what they do.
Burns easily best player seen this year. Qera last 3 months been a force. Also think Percival, jess, care, Easter and Robson in mix

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Post by Guest Sun 23 Dec 2012, 9:26 pm

Also would have Vunipola and a wade in the mix

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 23 Dec 2012, 9:28 pm

Can get hold of a new dodgy box if anybody interested. Has full week planner, can record with added HD, pretty much like a sky box.

PM for detail, all channels and Saturday 3pm footie included.

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Post by Guest Sun 23 Dec 2012, 9:44 pm

You haven't seen pooly right !!!

Can you sell my In laws to an abbatoir pooly? Money in it for you

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 23 Dec 2012, 9:49 pm

Fingers in pies Matthew Wink

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Post by stnick88 Sun 23 Dec 2012, 10:21 pm

Was at wasps today. Awful match so many mistakes. Bv and aj best players. Bv made some simple errors though seems to have no sense.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 23 Dec 2012, 10:23 pm

Sale were decent today. Put together some phases. I was pleased with a LBP. Worried about how Macleod fell to pieces!

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Post by Guest Sun 23 Dec 2012, 10:53 pm

Wet weather a massive difference. Wasps not a wet team
Same as glos and sale.

Can't wait for dry grounds it suits us so much better

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Post by Driver Sun 23 Dec 2012, 11:29 pm

Xmas sale at Sarries with the following available , the ones with * next to there name need big deals as they are star players for me in the sense McCaw is too Pooly and Carter to Matt.

John Smit (South Africa)*
George Chuter (England)
Efion Lewis-Roberts (Wales) HC R6
Jannie Du Plessie (South Africa)*
Hoani Tui (New Zealand)
Lionel Nallet (France)
Tim Swinson (England)
Rocky Elsom (Australia)
Alessandro Zanni (Italy)*
Shane Jennings (Ireland)
Ross Rennie (Scotland)*
Beau Robinson (Australia)
Rapheal Lakafia (France)*
Luke Narraway (England)
Dewaldt Duvenage (South Africa)*
Will Chudley (England)*
Iain Humphreys (Ireland)*
Yannick Jauzion (France)
Henry Trinder (England)*
Chris Bell (England)
Mark Cueto (England)*
Adam Thompstone (England)
Lachie Turner (Australia)
Ben Smith (New Zealand)
Rory Lamount (Scotland)

I'm off to bed now and at work tomorrow so i expect a plenty of offers to come home too Very Happy.

Have a good Christmas lads.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 10:03 am

The following London Welsh players are available for deals...

Craig Mitchell
Werner Kruger
Dean Schofield
George Skivington
Kevin McLaughlin
Alex Gray
Butch James
Joel Tomkins
Andrew Trimble
Luke Fitzgerald
Tom Homer
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 24 Dec 2012, 10:26 am

HK Rob Webber (E) EPS
PR Ryan Grant (Scotland) (1)
PR Sekope Kepu (Australia) (3)
PR Logovi'i Mulipola (Samoa) (3)
LK Bradley Davies (Wales)
LK Alun Wyn Jones (Wales)
OS Julian Salvi (Australia)
N8 Ashley Johnson (South Africa)
SH Sam Harrison (E)
FH/FB Danny Cipriani (E)
CE Jean de Villiers (South Africa)
WG Sitiveni Siviatu (NZ)
FB Niall Morris (Ireland)


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Post by prop_lyd Mon 24 Dec 2012, 10:28 am

Sam Vesty, Regan King, Julien Malzieu, Olly Morgan, Ryan Jones
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 24 Dec 2012, 10:29 am

January sales have started early

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Post by CJB Mon 24 Dec 2012, 5:52 pm

Euan Murray
Louis Deacon (EQ)*
Graham Kitchener (EQ)*
Luke Romano*
Akapusi Qera
Richard Wigglesworth (EQ)*
Michael Harris
Luther Burrell
Isiah Toeava
Maxime Medard
Nopolini Nalaga*
Tim Nanai Williams

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 24 Dec 2012, 10:12 pm

Falcons:

HK Lee Mears (England) - Available Dec 17th
HK Agustín Creevy (Argentina)
TH Paul Doran-Jones (England)
TH Clement Ric (France)
LH Alex Waller (England)
LK Paul O'Connell (Ireland)
LK Yoann Maestri (France)
LK Ed Slater (England)
BS Juan Smith (South Africa)
BS Tom Croft (England)
BS Kelly Brown (Scotland)
OS Heinrich Brussow (South Africa)
SH Jimmy Cowan (New Zealand)
SH Luke Burgess (Austrailia)
SH Jean-Marc Doussain (France) (12/02/91)
FH Toby Flood (England)
FH Colin Slade (New Zealand)
IC Scott Wiliiams (Wales) (10/10/1990)
IC Ben Williams (England)
OC Jaque Fourie (South Afica)
OC Adam Ashley-Cooper (Austrailia)
WG Drew Mitchell (Austrailia)
WG Tommy Bowe (Ireland)

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 25 Dec 2012, 9:14 am

Happy Christmas all, have a cider on me because I'm on call today so can't drink!!
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Post by Driver Tue 25 Dec 2012, 10:42 am

Happy Christmas Lads! Homepage - Page 15 3602195817
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 25 Dec 2012, 1:24 pm

Happy christmas guys.

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Post by Guest Tue 25 Dec 2012, 10:54 pm

Merry Xmas good news for schalk also

http://m.news24.com/sport24/Rugby/Schalk-Burger-out-of-dark-space-20121010

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:47 am

2 months old that story Matt

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 2:17 pm

Just noticed SBW got picked up a little in predo's. Up to people how to rate players but for comparison:

SBW played INT rugby - 25 Aug (4 month ago) and came off the back of a couple of fantastic performances.

BdP - Last played rugby 18 Aug
Will Genia - Last played rugby 7 Sep

Due the Super season finishing in July, Zac Guildford hasn't played since top flight rugby since then (although he's played a few CC games). Similar with other Super club players (Duvenage, Ben Tameifuna, TJ Perenara (earlier), Spies, Fruen, Beast etc)

Peoples call on how they rate players but just pointing out that SBW hasn't been away from top rugby for as long as you might think.


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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 3:52 pm

I have had ferris picked up yet his last game was november. Thing with SBW is that he has not been training in a proper professional environment and also as he is off to rugby league the fitness and training will differ
Massively and he will no longer be fit to play union. 2 completely different sports. Look how he struggled when he first joined union.



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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 4:02 pm

The thing I'm saying is its the Super season so he wouldn't have been playing anyway. 4 months isn't a long time even he'd not played at all with injuries.

Hard to pull Ferris down because he's been injured, he's just not played great when he has played. Not to his standard anyway.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 26 Dec 2012, 5:34 pm

Official AP team of the season at halfway stage...

15. Mike Brown
14. Ken Pisi
13. Manu Tuilagi
12. Billy Twelvetrees
11. Christian Wade
10. Freddie Burns
9. Danny Care
8. Nick Easter
7. James Scaysbrook
6. Fran Louw
5. Steve Borthwick
4. Joe Launchbury
3. Dan Cole
2. Chris Whitehead
1. Montella (London Welsh)

Pretty close - I'd probably have Salvi or Qera over Scaysbrook, Varndell over Pisi as I think he has 9 tries this year already and maybe Robson over Borthwick.

Wonder what players are pushing for the England 6Nations squad - got to be Twelvetrees and Billy Vunipola!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 5:42 pm

Discussion on Billy V on main page, don't think he's ready personally. Just lacks a bit of brains at this stage.

Strange team considering many of those have been away for quite a few games.

I'd have Robson over Borthwick too, Qera over Scaysbrook, Kohn over Launchbury(close) and a few others.

It shows you have average the AP is during the Int window really.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 26 Dec 2012, 5:43 pm

Borthwick has been the best lock I've seen in this years AP. certainly the best lineout lock

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 5:46 pm

He runs a very good lineout at Sarries, they have stacks of options to be fair.

Robson, Parling etc are much better players though. Robson has been miles better in the AP imo.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 5:48 pm

You could throw in Wentzal too, odd choice Borthwick.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 26 Dec 2012, 5:52 pm

The backline is pretty good though! Got some great players in the AP there.

Borthwick has been really good this year, he destroyed Wasps lineout and that hardly happens at all these days.

Vunipola will come good, he's getting some very good coaching at Wasps and he's improved so much in 6 months - just got to learn not to concede stupid penalties. Would rather him be in the England set up than Waldroum though as at least with BV there is potential there to mould a top class player, whilst Waldroum is a top no8 in the AP but is never going to be a world beater.

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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 6:10 pm

36 been really poor last month. Not good in bad conditions and lacks intelligence, not an England player for me

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 26 Dec 2012, 6:22 pm

Side isn't a million miles off. Lack of standout 13's

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 26 Dec 2012, 6:45 pm

Elliot Daly has been very good for Wasps - but gets moved about too much at the moment, think he's been wing or fullback last two games. For me he's been one of the best this year so far when he has played 13.

Scored 2-3 crackers already this year too.

Matt Hopper has been ok, seems to have got better defensively and not doing as much in attack though.

Joel Tomkins has been improving slowly - dont think he has the pace to be a good 13 though = Sarries really rate him though and he fits very well into their team.

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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 7:10 pm

Launchbury been top at international but not team of year for AP so far. Amazed Hamilton not in team. Also Qera salvi etc better 7s

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Post by stnick88 Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:39 pm

I'd have Hamilton in.

Amazed at the lack of Irish and sale players!?

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 27 Dec 2012, 10:26 am

Just what Toulon need...

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8362898,00.html

Reckon there could be a big move by the top AP clubs to increase the salary cap soon!

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Post by Fluxy Thu 27 Dec 2012, 10:37 am

Hope you all had a good crimbo guys!

I will take advantage of the January sales above and get tactics in later, off on a shoot for now!

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 27 Dec 2012, 11:10 am

Guys, just to let you know, i've left my charger at the other half's so literally am on for about 5 mins now until my battery dies until tomorrow....will try to get tactics in.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:19 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16016_8363113,00.html

PR newbie team of the year.

15 Andrew Horrell
14 Alex Cuthbert
13 Paul Jordaan
12 Gael Fickou
11 Willie le Roux
10 Beauden Barrett
9 TJ Perenara


8 Billy Vunipola
7 Michael Hooper
6 Iain Henderson
5 Samu Manoa
4 Brodie Retallick
3 Ben Tameifuna
2 Tom Youngs
1 Mako Vunipola

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:41 pm

That's one heck of a team!

Was going to post earlier about who people think could break through more in the second half of the season as youngsters - been very impressed with the Cardiff flyhalf, looks some talent - can't remember his name, but he is extremely ginger - surprised Pete hasnt tried to sign him up!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:51 pm

You and SJE have half that team, both placed faith in a lot of top youngsters.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 27 Dec 2012, 6:02 pm

Think I was lucky with one or two of mine - knew that Launch and Tuilagi were going to be very good as had watched them both quite a lot before they broke into the first team squads/eng u20.

Thought the Vunipola's both had talent but were too unfit to get as much game time as they have done this year.

SJE has got some cracking players - he could almost put out an entire team of youngsters I think - same with Steve!

I'm hoping that Elliot Daly and Jamie Elliot continue to improve - both been getting a lot of game time this year.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 27 Dec 2012, 6:03 pm

Some odd ones in that. Seems to show bias towards those who have performed well in latter half of year, as these sides often do.

Very tough to see Marcell Coetzee missing from the backrow which includes Henderson and Vunipola.

Might have put Zebo, Hogg, Etzebeth (was it this season he emerged?) and Launchbury in there myself.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 6:06 pm

TJ over Aaron Smith??? Who is Horrell??

PR do some odd teams.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 27 Dec 2012, 6:09 pm

And Savea! Scored more tries than any other international I think.

Think Horrell is the Chiefs fullback Pooly, not 100% sure though. Not sure what the criteria is for the team, as some have played a few seasons!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 6:22 pm

Why let criteria get in the way of picking a newbie team

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 28 Dec 2012, 9:58 am

Just to give everyone a heads up, the next foreign transfer window is...

00:01 hours on Monday 28th January 2013 to 23:59 hours on Friday 8th February 2013
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Post by dammit_chris Fri 28 Dec 2012, 12:38 pm

Shaun Edwards put his AP team of the year up on the Guardian

15. Brown
14. Wade
13. Tuilagi
12. Barritt
11. Varndell
10. Evans
9. Care/Youngs
8. Morgan
7. Louw
6. Tom Savage
5. Samo Manoa
4. Joe Launchbury
3. Dan Cole
2. Tom Youngs
1. Joe Marler

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Post by Guest Fri 28 Dec 2012, 12:56 pm

I would suggest that shows how little he knows about forward play. Seems to be not based on ap form in pack.

None of that Backrow would get in my ap side if it was based on only ap form. For me in second row on ap form alone would have had 4 manoa/Percival 5 Robson/ parling/ Hamilton etc

Cole a certainty for th though


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Post by Guest Fri 28 Dec 2012, 12:57 pm

Also Care so far ahead of youngs and any other 9 in prem on ap form

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