Ongoing NFL discussion thread

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To fill the void of NFL chatter between Tuesday and Sunday.

BLACK MONDAY
Andy Reid, Lovie Smith, Norv Turner, Pat Shurmur, Chan Gailey, Romeo Crennel and Ken Whisenhunt all fired as HCs
Mike Tannenbaum, Gene Smith, Tom Heckert, Rod Graves and A.J Smith fired as GMs

Kansas City hire Andy Reid
Buffalo hire Doug Marrone
Cleveland hire Rob Chudzinski
San Diego hire Mike McCoy
Chicago hire Marc Trestman
Philadelphia hire Chip Kelly
Jacksonville hire Gus Bradley
Arizona hire Bruce Arians

[sodhat]

Be a nice push for Atlanta, they can definitely make another play off run in 2013. They will have to contend with an all-round better New Orleans I'd wager though

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Eh, they need more playmakers on defense.

Jurys still out as to whether Matt Ryan will do it on the big stage.

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Romos a top 10 QB. Capability for bad games stops him pushing up the list. Real problem with the Cowboys is Jerruh being a garbage GM.

Thats very true
He wants a 'yes man' HC & wants to make glory / sexy picks come draft time instead of what we need
Doesn't look like stepping down as GM for the foreseable so more wasted years ahead

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Dee Milliner runs a 4.31

Eagles plz

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Alex Smith will be traded to the Chiefs on the 12th.

pencil in Joeckel at 1.

Reid decision making has really gone down the toilet in recent years

[BamBam]

2nd round pick apparently


#49erswin

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Wow, Reid is ****ing stupid

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Why trade for a game manager when Cassel could do that job?

#headsgone

[BamBam]

Maybe he thought he was getting Aldon Smith

[Colan (niner)]

Alex Smith will be traded to the Chiefs on the 12th.

pencil in Joeckel at 1.

Reid decision making has really gone down the toilet in recent years

You told me I couldn't give Smith to the Chiefs in fantasy because he wasn't a Reid kind of guy but I always knew the Chiefs would do what is right

[Colan (niner)]

it's not just a second pick this year, its a similar (2nd/3rd) in 2014 too!

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I told you that because this is a really stupid deal for the Chiefs. Andy Reid loves to pass, trades what is almost a first rounder for a QB whose best utilised in a limited role.

[Colan (niner)]

All over twiiter and confirmed now that the 2014 pick is a third rounder that can become a second based on incentives. Now means, with a third round compensatory pick, niners should have a 1st, two 2nd's and three 3rd's. And then we have way too many late round picks. Will be a lot of wheeling and dealing. Once again, Harbaalke shock me

[BamBam]

Hmm loads of picks, need a corner ... Darrelle Revis anyone?

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Doubt they can afford to give him a long term deal. Going to have to pay Crabtree and Kaepernick in the near future.

[Colan (niner)]

I want Harvin. Have a feeling there will be some surprise cuts with the niners so we can go after big player probably

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Aldon Smith is also going to want to be paid like an elite pass rusher too. I just don't see how the 49ers can afford to pay Revis on a long term contract.

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@AdamSchefter: Giants make significant off-season move: NY signed offensive tackle Will Beatty to a five-year, $38.75 m deal

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Roethlisberger restructures with the Steelers, doing the ravens a solid as the tag number for QBs now drops to around 19m

[Number-25]

Peeing off a few fans is one thing. Walking the Al Davis route and peeing off your partners is in advisable. He'll back down I imagine

If Snyder was liked amongst his peers then the Redskins wouldn't be in the position that they find themselves in. He has nothing to lose by going to court. In fact, he only has stuff to gain - much needed kudos amongst Redskins fans and potentially, although unlikely, salary cap money. He couldn't be any less popular amongst the owners than he already is. The only thing Snyder has to lose from putting the rest of the NFL on the rack is a few dollars - the sort that would make us rich men but that he would find down the back of the sofa. He should pull the trigger on this. No question.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
Clubs informed today that the salary cap for 2013 will be $123 million.

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Never hurts to have allies when the owners vote annually.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
Clubs informed today that the salary cap for 2013 will be $123 million.

Significance of this is that it is a little higher than teams have (reportedly) expected, so we could see a little more cash splashed

[Derbyblue]

Don't think this has been talked about but seems to me like teams went a bit far during combine interviews: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/feb/28/nfl-teams-asking-gay-questions-nick-kasa

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Teams ask prospects unusual questions to see how they respond. Whether he was gay was likely irrelevant.

Jeff Ireland asking Dez Bryant if his mother was a crack lady of loose morals may have set the line for this one.

[Derbyblue]

I feel like there should be some form of boundary, but also some of these guys are going to get multi-million dollar contracts and they don't want to hand them out to the wrong guy who could cause issues in the locker room, but it's sad that someones sexual preference could cause that issue.

In other 'news' Pat White (yes this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042C1b0wGSo ) is attempting an NFL comeback and will be working out at the West Virginia Pro Day. http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/2/27/4035282/pat-white-nfl-comeback-west-virginia

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[Pr4wn]

Franchise tags are coming out now, Bengals have tagged Michael Johnson, Colts have tagged Pat McAfee and the Bills have tagged Jairus Byrd.

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Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
Clubs informed today that the salary cap for 2013 will be $123 million.

We should use this to re-sign Landry. Safety will be another box ticked in the long list of offseason needs.

[mikeygnfl]

Don't think this has been talked about but seems to me like teams went a bit far during combine interviews: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/feb/28/nfl-teams-asking-gay-questions-nick-kasa

I presume that sort of questioning is unlawful in the US. Because of the way the draft/NFL works though doubt any players will be taking legal action against the teams.

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The Ravens and Joe Flacco have agreed to a new deal

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"as a person, I think he's outstanding.”
-Chip Kelly on Nnamdi Asomugha.

Lmao I wish theyd just put him out of his misery already

[Derbyblue]

Don't think this has been talked about but seems to me like teams went a bit far during combine interviews: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/feb/28/nfl-teams-asking-gay-questions-nick-kasa

I presume that sort of questioning is unlawful in the US. Because of the way the draft/NFL works though doubt any players will be taking legal action against the teams.

From a Scott Fujita interview: "Certainly asking someone about their sexuality - first of all it's against the law. Second of all, it's absolutely a violation of our CBA"

@AdamSchefter
Ravens and Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco have agreed to deal, as @JayGlazer reported. Expected to make Flacco highest-paid QB in NFL history.
If that's true his agent is amazing.

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@AdamSchefter
Ravens and Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco have agreed to deal, as @JayGlazer reported. Expected to make Flacco highest-paid QB in NFL history.
If that's true his agent is amazing.

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@AdamSchefter
To be precise, Joe Flacco's deal with Ravens will clock in at six years and $120.6 million, a bit more than Drew Brees' in almost every way.

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The next big player to get an extension is always the highest paid at his position. Way it works

[BamBam]

Who is next to get paid? Aaron Rodgers contract is up next year isn't it?

[CFCNick]

Has Flacco got the same agent as Julian Faubert???

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Flacco was always going to be the highest paid QB.

[crazy_dave23]

Who is next to get paid? Aaron Rodgers contract is up next year isn't it?

Yes it is... that should be negotiated this summer once things have calmed down a bit

[crazy_dave23]

Has Flacco got the same agent as Julian Faubert???

How he got to go to Real Madrid i'll never know!

[Derbyblue]

Who is next to get paid? Aaron Rodgers contract is up next year isn't it?

@AlbertBreer
And there are lots of QBs on deck for deals. Rodgers, Ryan and Stafford might get done this offseason, Dalton and Kaepernick next year.

[Number-25]

The numbers involved in Rodgers' deal could be terrifying now! The Packers' FO guys must be sitting with their heads in their hands now that Mr Average has just been made the league's highest paid player. Aaron Rodgers is going to become a filthy rich man even by NFL standards.

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Flacco averages 100k more per year than Brees this wont alter Rodgers deal much

[Derbyblue]

Just seen a tweet saying it's only a $7m cap hit this season, anybody heard/read anything else saying similar?

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@JasonLaCanfora
Joe Flacco will average $20.1M/yr in record deal, slightly more than Brees. Will make $62M over 1st 3 yrs, $1M more. 2013 cap #? Just $7M...

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Makes sense, the Ravens need the cash space now, and will have a few big earners likely gone towards the end of the deal.

[Number-25]

Flacco averages 100k more per year than Brees this wont alter Rodgers deal much

It might not, but it should. The problem here is that the Ravens' Superbowl win has skewed Flacco's value. We all know that had more to do with emotional drive the team got from wanting to win it for Ray than it had to do with Flacco. That's the screwed up NFL though - QBs get too much credit for these things. There is no debate about who is the better QB when talking about Rodgers and Flacco. It's not even close. Their wages should reflect that and if Rodgers' agent's opening line in the discussion is anything other than that then he needs to be sacked. Normally I,d agree that the next top QB up for a new deal would get a few dollars more than the last guy but this time it should be different. The Ravens will have annoyed a lot of teams with this deal - guaranteeing so much money to such an inconsistent player raises the bar for everyone.

[mikeygnfl]

This is a little bit of fun/ interest on Bleacher Report. It mashes together free agency with the draft and mocks a draft with each team picking up a free agent instead of a college player. Here is a link:-

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1546490-nfl-free-agent-mock-draft-where-would-top-players-on-the-market-land

[mikeygnfl]

I think I've found a new girlfriend for Manti Te'o (and she's real)...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000146711/article/lauren-silbermans-nfl-tryout-lasts-two-short-kickoffs

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