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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 02 Jan 2013, 6:27 pm

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Breaking News: Pooly quits as Falcons boss after their first home defeat for 2 years, paving the way for a shock return to the Premiership for former Exeter Chiefs, London Welsh and Saracens head coach Driver, who takes charge at Kingston Park.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Driver Fri 11 Jan 2013, 9:45 pm

Was Falcons best player last 4-5 years , really big loss. In some aspects more than Wilko with Wilkinson always seeming to be injured.

Jared Payne best 15 in Europe at this form. Great skill set and pops up everywhere.
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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 10:21 pm

Driver wrote:Just seen the teams , Tim Swinson has been Glasgows best player this season. Glasgow fans saying his been as good as grey but does more in tight that Grey did but Grey more in loose.

Nick Williams off to J-League soon isn't he?

Glasgow fans must be dim. Swinson average nowt else. Hard to shine for jock teams.

Nick Williams average also. Lacks fitness and ability. Great carrier but needs go forward ball. Liability as a defender

Suits ulsters immense platform. Wannenberg was much better

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 10:44 pm

Josh Strauss is a proper player. Get in most sides in Europe. Great signing in foreign plays 6,7,8

Young Cardiff 10 will be the bid war I reckon

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Post by Driver Fri 11 Jan 2013, 10:50 pm

Tovey?
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Post by Fluxy Fri 11 Jan 2013, 10:52 pm

Patchell, is who I think he meant.

Strauss was awful. Fumbled high balls, and was stopped on the gainline with ease.

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 10:53 pm

Patchell driver looks a star. Most pundits agree

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 10:54 pm

Strauss at 7 or 6 top. Not seen the game but imagine he was in a pack that got smashed.

He is a top top player

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Post by Driver Fri 11 Jan 2013, 10:57 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Patchell driver looks a star. Most pundits agree

Is he the ginger lad?
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Post by Fluxy Fri 11 Jan 2013, 11:03 pm

Yes, lots of potential. Needs to be not called up to the Welsh set up yet.

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 11:04 pm

Lets just say due to his hair colour he has a lot more time to spend on rugby than on women!

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 11:05 pm

Fluxy wrote:Yes, lots of potential. Needs to be not called up to the Welsh set up yet.

Agree 100% Fluxy.

Jiffy and guscott say the same also

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Post by Driver Fri 11 Jan 2013, 11:06 pm

Lol , Poor fanta pubes.


Wales have ruined some real good young talent calling them up to soon. Tom Prydie was meant to be a superstar and is just coming back onto the scean.
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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 11:42 pm

Watching ulster game. I kick better out of hand than paddy Jackson. Ulster will win nothing with him.

What does
He offer apart from mediocrity ?

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Post by Guest Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:14 am

Proof he
Is back

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_8389618,00.html
Get in!! My favourite player.

A pleasure to watch when he plays.


Anyone seen the France squad ?? Lacks a wing after clerc apart from that very good.

Hari not picked. Being given time
To play before being selected. Great for me !

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Post by Fluxy Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:22 am

I thought it lacked a fullback. But then I'm not so sure on a few of the back three players in the French squad.

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Post by Guest Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:33 am

Dulin the fb Is v good and butin pure class but does
Not play much at clermont if Byrne fit.

Both pure talent but a few questions about Them.

Think Both could be stars. Dulin my fave at moment

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Post by Fluxy Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:41 am

I know Medard had just comeback, but a little surprised he's not in the squad. Poitrenaud, is a liability do can understand that. What happened to Porical, he was a FB I liked and was on the up.

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Post by Guest Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:47 am

I am no medard fan at fb. Better on wing. He is playing well for Toulouse. Porical is some kicker. Dulin and butin are real ball players.

SJE owns Butin and I would pay lots for him

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Jan 2013, 9:48 am

Wonder if the France squad means that they will be looking at Fofana on the wing again.

Patchell is who I am going for in the next round of foreigns I think - great kicker, not sure about his running/distribution yet though.

Lancaster's team selection at lock will be interesting after Lawes' performance last night - it must be a nightmare being a back and knowing you've got Lawes and Manoa lining up against you on the other side - watched Saints/Wasps last season and Nicky Robinson got munched 5-6 times by them both! Wasnt good viewing for his family.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:54 pm

Lads, I'm calling it a day.

I'll stick around the main page for the craic, good luck finding a new manager thumbsup

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Post by Driver Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:56 pm

Ill come back if theres a gap, missed it since I left lol
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 12 Jan 2013, 1:19 pm

Pooly, I suspected a few weeks back when you talked about quitting that you wouldn't see the season out but wasn't expecting it quite this quickly. Thanks for the time you've put in over the past couple of years mate. Good that you'll stick around for the banter (with Chris Wink ). You never know, a break may give you the bug for the game again in the future if another team comes up.

Driver, you better get a page knocked up then for Newcastle. Your dream job I would imagine! lol Laugh I do need a commitment from you until the end of the season if you're coming back in though mate.
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Post by Driver Sat 12 Jan 2013, 1:21 pm

Will do it tonight people, Got the bug back the other night lol

On way to Mowden Park for rugby now so wont be back on till 6ish
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Jan 2013, 2:12 pm

Cheers Pete, it's been fun building Falcons up. Just got a little too tactical and clicky lately for me.

Still enjoy the patter though, good luck Driver.....don't you dare sell JOC!!


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Jan 2013, 2:52 pm

Blues getting humped!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 12 Jan 2013, 4:15 pm

Predictions close at 8 for those who haven't got theirs in yet.

Blues are a poor side. That was effectively a second, and in some cases 3rd string Toulon front 5, and they munched the Blues.
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Post by Guest Sat 12 Jan 2013, 5:32 pm

Great game sarries. Farrell coming of age. Mo Botha had a stormer

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Post by Driver Sat 12 Jan 2013, 5:45 pm

Newcastle page is up and running
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Jan 2013, 6:42 pm

Leinster looking so good at the moment - or is it that Scarlets are playing so poorly? Not really sure what has happened to Welsh club rugby over the last two seasons, wonder if it will impact upon them come 6Nations.

Nalaga is looking very good for Clermont too at the moment.


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Post by Guest Sat 12 Jan 2013, 6:47 pm

Scarlett's poor Chris. To be fair fergus McFadden is a liability. He is just not good enough for Leinster. So many things that go wrong are his fault.

Healy and heaslip looking mighty good.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 12 Jan 2013, 6:48 pm

Sorry to see you go Pooly. You did wonders with that Newcastle side.
Had a feeling it was coming. Be sure to stay around and moan at Chris Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Jan 2013, 6:55 pm

Yea don't worry Luke, I'll be on whenever Chris talks garbage (probably hourly)

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Post by Fluxy Sat 12 Jan 2013, 9:34 pm

Take it I've missed predos? Sorry been out for dinner, and busy.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 12 Jan 2013, 11:23 pm

Results are done for the Heino and Amlin. Amlin tables are updated, just waiting on tomorrows results of Edinburgh vs. Munster and Toulouse vs. Benetton Treviso beofre I do the Heino pools.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 Jan 2013, 11:21 am

Saints players available

HK Rob Webber (E) EPS
PR Ryan Grant (Scotland) (1)
PR Logovi'i Mulipola (Samoa) (3)
LK Bradley Davies (Wales)
LK Alun Wyn Jones (Wales)
SH Sam Harrison (E)
FH/FB Danny Cipriani (E)
WG Sitiveni Siviatu (NZ)
FB Niall Morris (Ireland)

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 13 Jan 2013, 11:33 am

Where do I need to target next in foregins guys? I'm thinking maybe look towards a new tighthead as BJ seems to be getting some bad ratings at moment?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 11:51 am

Parling rumoured to have knocked back Gloucester and they're bringing in Myall from Sale

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 Jan 2013, 12:25 pm

Myall a good lock. Excellent in the lineout (Up their with Wentzel in the AP).

Loose play not brilliant but does his share. Doesn't get in Sale's best XV (Gray and McKenzie)

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 13 Jan 2013, 1:39 pm


FH/CE/FB Sam Vesty (England)
CE Jon Clarke (England)
CE Fergus McFadden (Ireland) (WG)
WG Marcel Garvey (England)
FB Olly Morgan (England)
FB Cameron Shepherd (Australia) (WG)

Available......i'm badly after eq backs and have cash I can offer as well.
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Post by Driver Sun 13 Jan 2013, 3:34 pm

Lancaster confirms mid week fixtures in the Argentina tour.

Will Welch being lined up along with Chris York supposedly. Can see a fair few U20s going. Billy V should be 8 for Tests.
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Post by Guest Sun 13 Jan 2013, 3:39 pm

We need a big lump rather than powder puff parling or myall. We actually need a few second rows as we have savage and nowt else. The big hope I stookes who everyone thinks is the long term England solution.

Personally I want him to just play and stop being injured

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 Jan 2013, 3:53 pm

I have to confess I'm not sure everyone see's Stookes as the long term England solution Matt.

Pretty sure Launchbury is in that position as now.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 3:54 pm

Tipuric quality today, has to be Welsh 7.

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Post by Fluxy Sun 13 Jan 2013, 3:55 pm

Tipuric has been immense

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 Jan 2013, 3:56 pm

He has been decent. Ospreys should win this. There move from being a team of stars to a excellent side is progressing well.

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Post by Fluxy Sun 13 Jan 2013, 3:56 pm

Am I right in saying that Fotuali could be leaving at the end of the season? That would ruin all of the hard work.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 4:08 pm

Can see Warbs/Lydiate battling for Welsh 6 jersey

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Post by Guest Sun 13 Jan 2013, 4:28 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:I have to confess I'm not sure everyone see's Stookes as the long term England solution Matt.

Pretty sure Launchbury is in that position as now.

I agree Steve I think the hype around stookes is unnecessary. Lawes is young also.

The amount of England Interest around stookes is unnatural.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 4:33 pm

Don't think I've heard of him.

Looks like Youngs just saved Tigers here. Tuilagi has been terrible.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 Jan 2013, 4:39 pm

Great Tigers scrum and work from Youngs & Morris.

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