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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 02 Jan 2013, 6:27 pm

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Breaking News: Pooly quits as Falcons boss after their first home defeat for 2 years, paving the way for a shock return to the Premiership for former Exeter Chiefs, London Welsh and Saracens head coach Driver, who takes charge at Kingston Park.

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8 Homepage - Page 14 5London Irish136 0 7 325 328 -3 35 34 2 6 32
9 Homepage - Page 14 1Bath Rugby1360 7 303 313 -10 28 34 0 5 29
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:18 pm

Awful from Tait

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Post by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:19 pm

Flood playing dreadful. His passing is awful. Game on. They will pepper tait after that

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Post by Driver Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:27 pm

Floods kicking from hand is whats kept tigers in this game Matt.
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Post by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:31 pm

His kicking out of hand been good everything else shocking. Put lots of pressure on his team with poor passing. Youngs has not put a foot wrong. Mcallister showing why I am not a fan. Kicking so hit and miss. Toulouse should be out of sight

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:39 pm

Floods kicking from hand has been poor, kicking too low. Good elsewhere.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:44 pm

Morris.....so bad

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:11 pm

Best game I've seen Ben Youngs play for quite some time, looked very composed. Flood on the other hand was so poor, his form has been really bad since he's come back from injury.

Just hope Burns is fit to play in the 6Nations as Flood just isn't the man to take England forward in the no10 shirt.

Tigers were very good in the pack stopping Toulouse going forward, though think Toulouse will be kicking themselves for starting that young hooker and Beauxis today!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:17 pm

Great set of QF's

Quins - Munster
Clermont - Montpellier
Toulon - Leicester
Saracens - Ulster

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:20 pm

Great to see 3 English clubs through as well - am getting tickets for the Quins and Sarries game - but very tempted with a trip to Toulon, as think the way that Tigers set themselves to play they have the beating of Toulon.

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Post by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:22 pm

Great Qf in Amlin also. If glos beat Biarritz we have wasps or Leinster away. About to book flights to dublin for it now.
Leinster better beat wasps.

Could be a weird weekend if glos lose to Biarritz and wasps beat Leinster. I could be in dublin with no game to watch

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Post by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:25 pm

Youngs was exceptional today. Even flood admitted he had a poor game. Thing is he does not threaten defences so is not an ideal sub for Farrell. Burns can change a game flood can't. If Farrell injured then start flood.
If Farrell fit burns needs to be bench.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:25 pm

with Semi's being

Clermont or Montpellier v Quins or Munster

Saracens or Ulster v Toulon or Leicester

Difficult to see Clermont not making the final now

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:27 pm

Challenge cup

Perpignan or Toulouse v Bath or Stade Francais

Wasps or Leinster v Gloucester or Biarittz

Should be a great tournament as well.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:30 pm

Wow the Amlin has suddenly become very interesting. Saw Wasps/Leinster a few years ago and we beat them then, not so confident this time! Wonder if they will put out their best team for the Amlin?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:33 pm

Final is in Dublin so I suspect they might fancy it.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 20 Jan 2013, 8:15 pm

England Saxons training squad

Tom Biggs (Bath Rugby)
Kieran Brookes (Leicester Tigers)
Rob Buchanan (Harlequins)
Jordan Crane (Leicester Tigers)
Elliot Daly (London Wasps)
Paul Doran Jones (Northampton Saints)
Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby)
George Ford (Leicester Tigers)
Will Fraser (Saracens)
Joe Gray (Harlequins)
Jamie Gibson (London Irish)
George Lowe (Harlequins)
Graham Kitchener (Leicester Tigers)
Shaun Knight (Gloucester Rugby)
George Kruis (Saracens)
Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby)
Matt Mullan (Worcester Warriors)
George Robson (Harlequins)
Joe Simpson (London Wasps)
Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers)
Joel Tomkins (Saracens)
Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins)
Christian Wade (London Wasps)
Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens)
Nick Wood (Gloucester Rugby)

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Post by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 8:23 pm

Even as a one eyed glos fan I have to say knight is way short of this level currently. He is really pudgy and struggles after 30-40 minutes.


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Post by dammit_chris Sun 20 Jan 2013, 8:25 pm

Who are they playing Steve? Is it the Irish and another team?

Some players I can't ever see making the grade to the next level though.

Hard to pick a backline from that but imagine

9. Simpson
10. Ford
11. Wade
12. JTH
13. Lowe
14. May
15. Daly

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 20 Jan 2013, 8:33 pm

side should be

1. Mullan
2. Gray
3. PDJ
4. Kruis
5. Robson
6. Gibson
7. Fraser
8. Crane
9. Simpson
10. Ford
11. Wade
12. JTH
13. Lowe
14. May
15. Daly

Glad to Buchanan get a chance. Think he is a fine prospect.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 20 Jan 2013, 8:39 pm

Really like Kruis too - can the guys who have been asked to train with the full england side be called into this one - sure Vunipola, Kvesvic are both training with them this week.

That is a seriously quick backthree.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 20 Jan 2013, 8:43 pm

no idea. There is a bigger training squad with Kvesic, Monye and Botha added to the EPS.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 9:28 am

This weeks match thread is up, will get results and Heino/Amlin draw sorted later.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 9:39 am

can not believe Garvey doesnt even make the Saxons.

He must of done something to p iss off Lancaster.

Played a good 40 mins for the Saxons last year, then hasnt featured since.

He has been playing better at 6 recently. Streets ahead of Gibson.

Week in week out Irish's best player.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 21 Jan 2013, 2:36 pm

Burns looks like he's out of the first 2 6N games with knee issue

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Jan 2013, 3:07 pm

flood to get bench spot then

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 21 Jan 2013, 3:19 pm

I imagine so, it's Farrell's to lose. Although not a fan he put in a good 40mins or so against the AB's and deserves to keep his place.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 21 Jan 2013, 5:57 pm

Farrell's also on far better form than Flood at the moment, the game against Racing where he got +30 points was brilliant.

Not sure what is happening with Flood at the moment, he looks like he's trying to show that he can play a more expansive game, but it isn't really working.

Shame that Burns is injured.

Reckon Youngs might well have the no9 shirt nailed on now - was so impressed with him at the weekend, best I've seen him play.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 21 Jan 2013, 6:10 pm

Youngs had the 9 shirt nailed anyway I think, SL is obviously a fan.

Flood is a few games back from injury, he was ok against Toulouse, much better than Beauxis anyway who was terrible.

Farrell has kicked superbly but has slipped back into his kicking away everything too easily, I'm not convinced.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Jan 2013, 7:06 pm

I think you need burns bench and any of the other 2 as starters. Prefer Farrell easily. However neither flood nor Farrell offer anything from the bench so would not have both in a match day 22.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 21 Jan 2013, 7:16 pm

Flood is still our best 10 by some way for me.

Farrell has too many flaws, unless he can kick on. Burns needs to be blooded, he has serious attacking talent but decision making needs work.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 8:36 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Final Seedings

Heineken Cup

1. Northampton Saints
2. ASM Clermont Auvergne
3. Gloucester
4. Ulster Rugby
5. Harlequins
6. Saracens
7. Leicester Tigers
8. Leinster

9. Toulouse
10. Toulon
11. Newcastle Falcons


Amlin Challenge Cup

1. Bath Rugby
2. London Welsh
3. Sale Sharks
4. Worcester Warriors
5. London Wasps


Quarter Finals

Heineken Cup

Northampton Saints vs. Leinster
ASM Clermont Auvergne vs. Leicester Tigers
Gloucester vs. Saracens
Ulster Rugby vs. Harlequins


Amlin Challenge Cup

Bath Rugby vs. London Wasps
London Welsh vs. Newcastle Falcons
Sale Sharks vs. Toulon
Worcester Warriors vs. Toulouse


Semi Finals

Ulster Rugby or Harlequins vs. Gloucester or Saracens
ASM Clermont Auvergne or Leicester Tigers vs. Northampton Saints or Leinster


Sale Sharks or Toulon vs. Bath Rugby or London Wasps
Worcester Warriors or Toulouse vs. London Welsh or Newcastle Falcons
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 21 Jan 2013, 8:38 pm

Robshaw retains England captaincy

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Post by Driver Mon 21 Jan 2013, 8:42 pm

Phew! Snuck in there!
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Post by Driver Mon 21 Jan 2013, 8:44 pm

All the players are behind Robshaw according to SL so thats why he's captain.


Interestingly i'm going to Headingly this Friday to watch England training as part of Lancasters grass roots project where they invite rugby clubs to come watch England training session.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 8:45 pm

Driver wrote:Phew! Snuck in there!

I'm looking forward to your visit it the Kassam mate! Wink
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Post by Driver Mon 21 Jan 2013, 8:46 pm

Should be a competitive fixture fella , I hear Oxford is nice this time of year.

The weekend in Wuss/Toulouse after should be a nice venture out.
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Post by prop_lyd Mon 21 Jan 2013, 9:05 pm

Toulouse??!! Man!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 9:58 pm

Driver wrote:Should be a competitive fixture fella , I hear Oxford is nice this time of year.

The weekend in Wuss/Toulouse after should be a nice venture out.

Ah sure some of your players might have picked up some form by then. Wink
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Post by El Dios Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:11 pm

May have to leave this league. As im not giving it the time it deserves. I missed the team sheet deadline
And was active every day so.... will step down
Will do tactics etc til new manager if you like

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:18 pm

If you can't give it the time bud then that's fair enough. Don't worry about hanging on for a new manager, I'll caretake Irish until we get someone permanent in. Cheers for letting us know.
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Post by Driver Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:19 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:
Driver wrote:Should be a competitive fixture fella , I hear Oxford is nice this time of year.

The weekend in Wuss/Toulouse after should be a nice venture out.

Ah sure some of your players might have picked up some form by then. Wink


I'm sure they will. Starting to get a bit defensive Pete?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:20 pm

Juan Smith & Brussow back in light training, love to see them playing again together.

http://www.rugby365.com/article/51668

Brussow looks like he's beefed up, I know Meyer had told him to be more physical to get back in with the Boks.

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Post by Driver Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:24 pm

Smith could be fit for the early rounds of super rugby by the sounds of it. Best 6 in the world on his day.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:27 pm

No idea how he'll come back but he's great to watch, one of my favs.

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Post by Driver Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:28 pm

Was it the 3Ns the other years where the boks looked a diffrent side with him and Bruss on the flanks? Dropped Burger if i remember rightly
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:29 pm

Brussow needs to be at his best to displace Louw. Meyer been raving about the impact he has had on the Boks for months.

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Post by Driver Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:31 pm

No doubt there Luke but Brussouw arguably the best on the deck in world on his day.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:32 pm

Has anyone asked Bathite from the other league if he wants a job?

Very active, and nice and opionated Wink

Irish have a really strong squad. Shame to see them being thrown about.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:33 pm

Way off Pocock for me. Like him though. Wish we had some of the Saffer flankers to add to our current Saffer contingent.

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Post by Driver Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:33 pm

I'v just asked him Luke. I'd be happy to have him in this league.

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