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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 02 Jan 2013, 6:27 pm

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Breaking News: Pooly quits as Falcons boss after their first home defeat for 2 years, paving the way for a shock return to the Premiership for former Exeter Chiefs, London Welsh and Saracens head coach Driver, who takes charge at Kingston Park.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 14 Jan 2013, 9:31 pm

There aren't too many obvious foreign targets available. I expect to see people try to strengthen their 6N side with bids for players who will be available.

Still good players about though. particularly in Ireland, France and Scotland

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Post by Guest Mon 14 Jan 2013, 9:32 pm

I am tempted also even though I don't need a 9

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Post by Fluxy Mon 14 Jan 2013, 9:32 pm

I was aslo interested in Biggar, fits in my game plan quite well. And can play an expansive game too

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 14 Jan 2013, 9:39 pm

I'm still looking for a loosehead if anybody has one available.
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Post by Fluxy Mon 14 Jan 2013, 9:41 pm

Do think you want any of mine?

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Post by Guest Mon 14 Jan 2013, 9:43 pm

Savea is an open side
Chris. He has serious wheels so has played wing in nz 7s team.
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Post by stnick88 Tue 15 Jan 2013, 9:12 am

I'm not a huge fan, but I'd like us to try and sign Saull.

With Gibson off, we need a natural openside and with his pace and linking style he could fit in well.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 15 Jan 2013, 9:56 am

See Wasps and Quins both absolutely furious with Saracens today - apparently the first Wasps knew of Vunipola deciding to leave the club was Sarries press release.

Think it was the same with JJ.

As a club Sarries really don't do themselves any favours with how they conduct themselves.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 15 Jan 2013, 10:02 am

Have they actually done anything wrong?

Players can talk to whoever they want and both were out of contract.

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Post by stnick88 Tue 15 Jan 2013, 10:10 am

Apparently BV let Wasps know an hour before the statement was made by Sarries.

Don't think anything has been done wrong.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 15 Jan 2013, 10:17 am

Well that's between Vuinipola and Wasps surely?

If he wishes to stab the club that's brought him through in back I'd say good riddance.

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 15 Jan 2013, 12:50 pm

Happy with the welsh squad bar coombs and pretourious to be fair. Surprised that Ollie Kohn has said he wants to play for Wales too.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 15 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

Looks like Morne is off Prop:

http://www.sarugby.com/news.cfm?newsid=21910

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 15 Jan 2013, 2:30 pm

That'll free him up for me!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 15 Jan 2013, 6:38 pm

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/saracens/saracensnews/10163186._/

So much for Goode missing 6N opener

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 15 Jan 2013, 7:03 pm

Heino opponents now updated on the match thread. OK
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 15 Jan 2013, 7:21 pm

Amlin teams also up now.
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Post by prop_lyd Tue 15 Jan 2013, 8:28 pm

Love this:
If Robson's French impression nailed the result, Nick Wood's wily impersonation was just as pivotal.

The cerebral loosehead prop produced a try-saving interception from Marcel Denetre's pass – by calling for the ball in French.

Wood shouted 'a gauche' as he tracked back on the Bordeaux centre's outside shoulder, only five metres from the Gloucester whitewash.

Denetre duly shipped on left, only to see Gloucester's grinning front-rower collect, and immediately turn on his heel.
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Post by Driver Tue 15 Jan 2013, 10:44 pm

All the following can leave in the right deal
HK Lee Mears (England)
HK Agustín Creevy (Argentina)
TH Paul Doran-Jones (England)
TH Clement Ric (France)
LH Alex Waller (England)
LK Brad Thorn (New Zealand)
OS Heinrich Brussow (South Africa)
N8 Toby Faletau (Wales) (12/11/90)
N8 Chris Masoe (New Zealand)


SH Jimmy Cowan (New Zealand)
SH Luke Burgess (Austrailia)
SH Jean-Marc Doussain (France) (12/02/91)
FH Colin Slade (New Zealand)
IC Ben Williams (England)
OC Jaque Fourie (South Afica)
WG Drew Mitchell (Austrailia)
FB Jared Payne (New Zealand)
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Post by Driver Tue 15 Jan 2013, 11:13 pm

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/racing-plan-750000-deal-to-lure-jonathan-sexton-3353845.html

Sexton to Racing Metro with Juan Hernandez set to see out 1 more year.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 16 Jan 2013, 9:25 am

Ronan O'Gara tut tut

http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/01/2954/munsters-ronan-ogara-facing-ban-for-deliberate-kick-on-sean-cox

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Post by stnick88 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 9:29 am

Corbs deal almost done.

Have to say I am not too bothered about losing him.

I doubt if he has played more than 10 games for Irish in the last 2 seasons.

Garvey is the one I want us to pull out all the stops for.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:08 am

He's confirmed on twitter he's off to Saints.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:24 am

Good move for Saints - very good replacement for Tiny and Mujati. Doesn't he have a problem with his knees though?

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Post by stnick88 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:28 am

yeh he does chris. think he has only played for irish twice this season.



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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:40 am

Corbs is quality, just need to get him on the park. Value for money?

Waller is coming through nice though and he'll be cheap, I wonder who they'll go for at TH

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 11:18 am

Corbs has a degenerative knee condition and will need careful managing through his career. I can see him playing for England and mainly playing Heineken Cup matches for Saints, with the odd Premiership game to keep sharp, much as the Irish provinces do with their internationals in the Rabo. I suspect Saints are more than happy with that as they have the two Waller brothers coming through on that side of the scrum, and they will be used in the Premiership unless against one of the top sides.

Gutted to see him leave Irish though. Quality player and top bloke the couple of times I've met him.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 12:24 pm

Yea he'll be good for the Wallers too as he's a bit more technique based than Mujati who's relies on power a bit more it seems

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 16 Jan 2013, 12:33 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Yea he'll be good for the Wallers too as he's a bit more technique based than Mujati who's relies on power a bit more it seems

Always suspected Chris & Pooly were the same person... Surely Corbs & Mujati play on the opposite side of the scrum... Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 12:36 pm

Meant Tiny lol

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 16 Jan 2013, 12:42 pm

Sure you did Chris Laugh

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 12:45 pm

I've been rumbled!! Agghhh

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 16 Jan 2013, 6:07 pm

Doran Jones off to Quins from what Dorian West has said today - also had a dig about some teams and the salary cap, if Saints are moaning about that you have to wonder about 2-3 teams in the AP.

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Post by Guest Wed 16 Jan 2013, 7:58 pm

Bit of a come down to have doran jones instead of Jj. Big loss for Quins

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 16 Jan 2013, 8:26 pm

JJ has come on massively the last two seasons - sure you offered him to me for free a few seasons ago!

Saints must have a lot of money available with losing pretty much their entire starting front row.

Glad Corbs has gone there, will hopefully help the England scrum playing next to Hartley.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 8:38 pm

He needs to be playing next to Youngs Wink

JJ has improved but still a pen machine, esp if he doesn't win the hit. Saints scrum has been great the last few weeks, they gave Exeter a good going over a few weeks back.

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Post by Guest Wed 16 Jan 2013, 8:57 pm

I never offered Jj for free. Always rated him. Got him for not much from Steve. Always thought he had potential and was a big lump. Easily best th in prem after cole.

Sarries must have paid huge to stop him going to France

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 9:11 pm

Easily better than Castro?

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Post by Guest Wed 16 Jan 2013, 9:56 pm

Castro not what he was for me.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 17 Jan 2013, 1:48 pm

On Castro to Toulon http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3823_8402484,00.html

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Post by El Dios Thu 17 Jan 2013, 10:28 pm

I am rejecting all the offers I've had none are even close to the mark for me.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 17 Jan 2013, 10:30 pm

need to get your team in mate

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 18 Jan 2013, 4:10 pm

After a centre - got following players available

PR Ryan Grant (Scotland) (1)
PR Logovi'i Mulipola (Samoa) (3)
LK Alun Wyn Jones (Wales)
SH Sam Harrison (E)
FH/FB Danny Cipriani (E)
WG Sitiveni Siviatu (NZ)
FB Niall Morris (Ireland)

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 18 Jan 2013, 5:37 pm

http://blogs.espnscrum.com/latest-news/archives/2013/01/hibbard_hailed_as_best_in_euro.php

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Post by Driver Fri 18 Jan 2013, 5:39 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:http://blogs.espnscrum.com/latest-news/archives/2013/01/hibbard_hailed_as_best_in_euro.php


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Post by Guest Fri 18 Jan 2013, 6:52 pm

Jonathan Humphreys was a dreadful hooker just like his judgment on Hibbard.

I had a friend who was at the o's as a player and never made the grade. His view was that Hibbard was so lazy and unfit. Said that he was super talented. My friend was a real trier and said if Hibbard had his work ethic he would be wc.

Problem with Wales is that anyone who shows a bit of promise is lauded so much it can go to heads. Same in England but its magnified in Wales
Apparently Hibbard a regular on the lash

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 18 Jan 2013, 7:02 pm

Hibbard is a decent enough player, but he needs to produce consistently at international level before he can be hailed as the best in Europe.
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Post by Guest Fri 18 Jan 2013, 7:07 pm

Needs to be a regular for wales.

Hartley best ford and many others in front of him. Definitely not ken Owens though. Struggle to see how he gets a game

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 18 Jan 2013, 7:09 pm

I like Owens. Think he will tour after making Wales shirt his own in 6N.

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Post by Guest Fri 18 Jan 2013, 7:12 pm

Apart from Leicester is there any other big game this weekend?

My rugby cancelled and glos game likely to be off.
Can't even move my car in bristol we are snowed in.

Weekend of tv sport and wine ahead I think.

Think it's only the Leicester game and sarries that has anything on it although maybe wrong

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