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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Leicester Tigers | 17 | 14 | 1 | 2 | 437 | 368 | +69 | 48 | 34 | 0 | 2 | 60 | |
2 | Harlequins | 17 | 12 | 0 | 5 | 447 | 409 | +38 | 49 | 43 | 3 | 5 | 56 | |
3 | Gloucester | 17 | 11 | 0 | 6 | 435 | 399 | +36 | 49 | 41 | 2 | 4 | 50 | |
4 | Newcastle Falcons | 17 | 10 | 1 | 6 | 427 | 395 | +32 | 45 | 36 | 1 | 6 | 49 | |
5 | Sale Sharks | 17 | 10 | 0 | 7 | 432 | 405 | +27 | 47 | 41 | 2 | 7 | 49 | |
6 | London Welsh | 17 | 8 | 3 | 6 | 401 | 382 | +19 | 43 | 36 | 0 | 6 | 44 | |
7 | Northampton Saints | 17 | 8 | 1 | 8 | 425 | 415 | +10 | 45 | 43 | 2 | 7 | 43 | |
8 | London Irish | 17 | 8 | 0 | 9 | 425 | 422 | +3 | 45 | 42 | 2 | 8 | 42 | |
9 | Bath Rugby | 17 | 8 | 0 | 9 | 402 | 410 | -8 | 39 | 44 | 0 | 7 | 39 | |
10 | Saracens | 17 | 4 | 1 | 12 | 354 | 430 | -76 | 31 | 47 | 0 | 6 | 24 | |
11 | Worcester Warriors | 17 | 3 | 1 | 13 | 369 | 415 | -46 | 32 | 45 | 1 | 7 | 22 | |
12 | London Wasps | 17 | 2 | 0 | 15 | 335 | 439 | -104 | 29 | 50 | 0 | 11 | 19 |
Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.
Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Having had a look at the fixtures to the end of the season, here's my punt at how the table will finish. Obviously not accounting for injuries and selections/tactics...
Tigers 72, Gloucester 69, Quins 69, Sale 64, Falcons 63, Irish 56, Welsh 54, Saints 53, Bath 49, Saracens 36, Worcester 34, Wasps 27
Tigers 72, Gloucester 69, Quins 69, Sale 64, Falcons 63, Irish 56, Welsh 54, Saints 53, Bath 49, Saracens 36, Worcester 34, Wasps 27
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I'll take that
Just read on BBC that Goode will sign for Wasps tomorrow.
Just what you always wanted Chris.
Just read on BBC that Goode will sign for Wasps tomorrow.
Just what you always wanted Chris.
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I'll be happy with that! Aiming to sneak into the top 6.
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Nick, thanks for sharing that - made my week by 13:15 on a Monday...
Although we have been looking to improve our front row options, maybe he is signed for there!?
Although we have been looking to improve our front row options, maybe he is signed for there!?
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not a bad signing if you ask me.
Could of done worse and got Ryan Lamb.
Could of done worse and got Ryan Lamb.
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It's that time of year when lamb plays well and gets himself plaudits. Does it most spring matches. Usually starts season well fades and then comes back in spring and ultimately comes up short in a big match.
Repeat season after season.
Leicester will be the next to experience this.
Looks like carter will be playing 12 for me throughout the injuries and 6 n or Jdj so not too bad.
Been hit hard at hooker. Both hookers out. Surely That's illegal I don't have any hookers for bench.
Repeat season after season.
Leicester will be the next to experience this.
Looks like carter will be playing 12 for me throughout the injuries and 6 n or Jdj so not too bad.
Been hit hard at hooker. Both hookers out. Surely That's illegal I don't have any hookers for bench.
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i smell a london welsh style points deduction for you matt!!
ive heard welsh could be hit hard tomorrow, potentially 12 points.
ive heard welsh could be hit hard tomorrow, potentially 12 points.
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Didn't they sue the AP/RFU last season too? Payback time
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Rules are rules no matter where in the table you are. Exeter and sale both hit with points reductions (albeit small ones) for similar offences. Macclesfield in nat 1 deducted 5 for playing one game for having a guy incorrectly registered with the dr signings. Welsh in trouble
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The only positive is that they declared it, I think he played 11-15 games though
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Morne signs for Stade - 3yr deal.
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Gopperth signs for Leinster.
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Not according to rugby world
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Canny, Hodgson has played better than him for most of the season. Good to get him off the payroll
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There all year round and will kick his goals. Can play 10 and full back. Makes sense and was perhaps they best they could find to fit the bill.
Newcastle will miss him big time next season.
Newcastle will miss him big time next season.
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We won't.
He's been the 2nd best 10 at the club all season.
He's been the 2nd best 10 at the club all season.
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Will free us a massive chunk of the salary cap too, couldn't be happier with that tbh
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If you don't miss his goal kicking I'll be shocked.
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Hodgson is very good place kicker, could argue he's been better than Gopperth this season.
Despite pack dominance Gopperths first instinct is to kick or run himself. The introduction of Hodgson has really opened us up.
We will not miss Gopperth one bit.
Despite pack dominance Gopperths first instinct is to kick or run himself. The introduction of Hodgson has really opened us up.
We will not miss Gopperth one bit.
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I always rated hopperth in what was an awful falcons team.wanted glos to buy him a few years ago
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You don't watch him every other week.
He's good at what he does but very limited. He's actually looked better at FB this season
He's good at what he does but very limited. He's actually looked better at FB this season
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He's a better 15 , wonder if Leinster plan to play him there if Kearney goes to france
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Maybe/maybe not.
With Gopperth he just takes everything on himself. With a semi competent player maker we may never have been in those situations.
In the end we went down with him and he's not looked out of place in the Championship. Hodgson is a different matter, very talented and seems to have the full package.
I think it'll be him, Clegg & Wemevmcfiviv or whatever his name is next season
With Gopperth he just takes everything on himself. With a semi competent player maker we may never have been in those situations.
In the end we went down with him and he's not looked out of place in the Championship. Hodgson is a different matter, very talented and seems to have the full package.
I think it'll be him, Clegg & Wemevmcfiviv or whatever his name is next season
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Croft in 36 man england squad
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Farrell out of Italy game.
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I think Gopperth will be in as a back-up 10 who will kick goals if needed. Madigan will start 10 for Leinster
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Kieran Brookes re-signs for Newcastle.
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I was hoping we'd get Wilson back, Brooke's won't improve us really
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He's been signed as a hooker
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Has he ever played a senior game at hooker?
I know Tigers were working on him, could give us decent cover I guess with Wilson still developing (although looking outstanding)
I know Tigers were working on him, could give us decent cover I guess with Wilson still developing (although looking outstanding)
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Be interesting to see how falcons go next year. Bristol spending serious money so whomever goes down could find it tough
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Cockerill was quite brutal about Brookes basically said he hasnt improved.
Welsh will be going down Matt. Points deduction today will cripple them and i dont expect them to win any more games.
Welsh will be going down Matt. Points deduction today will cripple them and i dont expect them to win any more games.
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Funny with Brookes, hes still a Saxons player and looked decent when he came on against Scotland.
It will give us a decent set of TH's in Tomas, Brookes & Wilson. Wilson could be a cracker, proper scrummager who has impressed every time he's played and only 18/19.
It will give us a decent set of TH's in Tomas, Brookes & Wilson. Wilson could be a cracker, proper scrummager who has impressed every time he's played and only 18/19.
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Wonder if anyone will go for Henson, it pains me to say this, but he hasn't actually looked that bad!
Nick, think you are right about Goode in that we could ahve got a lot worse, but his style doesn't suit Wasps at all - when you have Varndell, Wade and Daly in a backline you need an attacking no10, unless we will be playing Masi at 12 a lot more. Masi has been a great signing for us
Nick, think you are right about Goode in that we could ahve got a lot worse, but his style doesn't suit Wasps at all - when you have Varndell, Wade and Daly in a backline you need an attacking no10, unless we will be playing Masi at 12 a lot more. Masi has been a great signing for us
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See what your saying Chris, but he is similar to S.Jones and he has been good for you this season and helped get your wingers loads of tries. Neither have pace and make breaks, just control the game well and have a good pass on them.
I'd say that with Varndell, Wade and Daly in the backline you need a controlling and good defensive 10 otherwise you run the risk of being too weak defensively.
I'd say that with Varndell, Wade and Daly in the backline you need a controlling and good defensive 10 otherwise you run the risk of being too weak defensively.
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Goode will be a clever signing, Wasps have been very shrewd of late
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To be fair it's hard to predict how a signing will fit in. Masi is a decent player and been excellent for wasps yet he is one of the worst signings in Gloucesters history. He was dreadful here. Some signings fit and others don't. Steven Jones has always played an attacking style with Wales Scarlets and learnt more game management in France.
Goode has never really got a backline firing. He receives the ball much deeper than jones does so is not as primed to attack.
May fit in well but by standing as deep as he does can see him not fitting in. Is that 2 Worcester 10s wasps have signed ?
Goode has never really got a backline firing. He receives the ball much deeper than jones does so is not as primed to attack.
May fit in well but by standing as deep as he does can see him not fitting in. Is that 2 Worcester 10s wasps have signed ?
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Goode kicks far, far more than Stephen Jones - that's the issue I have with him. We haven't got a team that can play that way, but I guess they are seeing it as with Wentzel and Myall we will have the best lineout in the AP next year, so could be a good platform to launch attacks from.
Though replacing Jones with someone who can score a lot of points from the kicking tee is very good going, as Nicky Robinson has cost us so many games with his boot.
We've made some really good signings, just need to replace Billy now and maybe look at another hooker.
Though replacing Jones with someone who can score a lot of points from the kicking tee is very good going, as Nicky Robinson has cost us so many games with his boot.
We've made some really good signings, just need to replace Billy now and maybe look at another hooker.
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Would be a good signing for Perpignan
http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8541501,00.html
http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8541501,00.html
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I think they'll be better lineouts than Wasps next year.
Tigers - Deacon/Parling/Croft
Sarries - All back 5 players are top options
Wasps will have a strong set piece though I imagine
Tigers - Deacon/Parling/Croft
Sarries - All back 5 players are top options
Wasps will have a strong set piece though I imagine
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Wasps have the best lineout in the AP for me. Next year with the addition of Myall they will only improve.
Closely followed by Saracens.
Closely followed by Saracens.
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I didn't realise Brookes was only a loan signing.
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I've seen Wasps struggle this year when teams have targeted Wentzal, I'm sure Sarries took them to pieces earlier in the season
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I think wasps main problem has been at hooker. Thomas has started because Lindsay has been that bad.
Neither are greatest darts wise but Lindsay takes the biscuit. Evan huia Edmunds throws in better
Neither are greatest darts wise but Lindsay takes the biscuit. Evan huia Edmunds throws in better
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Our hookers aren't great, which is the issue.
They are good come scrum time, but Lindsay struggles with throwing and Thomas can go to pieces too. Woodman has done a great job with our scrum, compared to last year when we just went backwards.
We've got 3 good jumpers this year with Launch, Wentzel and Cannon, who is another that has come on a lot this year, if he can add more of a carrying game then he's a good propect - sure he's still only 22/23.
They are good come scrum time, but Lindsay struggles with throwing and Thomas can go to pieces too. Woodman has done a great job with our scrum, compared to last year when we just went backwards.
We've got 3 good jumpers this year with Launch, Wentzel and Cannon, who is another that has come on a lot this year, if he can add more of a carrying game then he's a good propect - sure he's still only 22/23.
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Croft 17 stone now. Some serious gain http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/04/england-tom-croft-italy-owen-farrell
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