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Breaking News: Gloucester smash their way into the top 4 for the first time this season, beating local rivals Bath at The Rec. Worcester move up one place condemning Wasps to the bottom of the table after a bonus point win over their relegation rivals.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Mar 2013, 1:33 pm

He was supposed to be great at weekend, made a real physical impact apparently. Top player to have to come in, we're building some nice depth.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Mar 2013, 1:34 pm

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12507/8541891

Interesting call, needs a big game

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Post by Guest Tue 05 Mar 2013, 2:17 pm

Thing is tips is great going forward and linking but not very good at dealing with big ball carriers. Tough call I thought tips had done enough

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Mar 2013, 3:24 pm

Leinster fans are funny on main board, they think Schmidt is some messiah that's going to make Gopperth into a world beater at 29.

They just won't accept they've signed an average FH with a good boot.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 05 Mar 2013, 3:28 pm

Most have said he will be able cover for Madigan and help bring his kicking game on. Don't let Secret Fly tar all the Leinster fans he has a thing for words and over dramitisation!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Mar 2013, 3:30 pm

I've never come across him before, seems an odd one.

Schmidt is great but you can't polish a turd

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 05 Mar 2013, 3:32 pm

Cracking coach. Would love to see him take Ireland on but probably better to find someone outside of the provinces. Theres a good thread going on the main board questioning his signings though. Been a big drop off in quality of NIQs being signed by Leinster since he came in

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Mar 2013, 3:34 pm

I think they'll struggle next season tbh

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Mar 2013, 7:17 pm

Another one of your boys off to Japan Matt, that'll be your first choice 10-13!

http://www.3news.co.nz/Dan-Carter-set-for-Japan/tabid/415/articleID/289115/Default.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FHCaY+%283News-+Latest+News%29

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Post by Guest Tue 05 Mar 2013, 8:56 pm

Can't see Barnes going can see carter going for 6 months for a sabbatical which should not affect him on here.

Kahui a big loss for me. Him and Jdj my first choice 13. My next signing in foreigns will be a 13 that's for sure lost Horne and will lose Kahui from June although his rating will hold for a while but only until about November December.

Have my eyes on any 13 playing in any hemisphere currently

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 5:50 am

Kahui will be big loss, he's a top 5 OC. I really rate him.

JDJ not so much, pretty average player at Int level. V strong defence but doesn't offer much in attack at top level.

Rhule is an OC, I've seen him play there and he's was great. Real prospect

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 7:42 am

Jdj scores some sensational tries he has an awesome step and gas. Offers
Something different to usual South African backs. Scored a few length of the pitch efforts that are genius.

South Africa will start to open up there game soon if the play the likes of goosen etc. they have some real talent out wide

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 7:47 am

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8543157,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 1:29 pm

He apparently dismisses it then says he's talking to clubs and more likely to go to Japan?!?!

Not really seen that from JDJ, he's a bit like the SA Fa'ainga

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 06 Mar 2013, 1:49 pm

Has anyone got a no9 I could loan at all?

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 06 Mar 2013, 1:51 pm

Nathan Fowles England u20 scrumhalf interest?

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:10 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:He apparently dismisses it then says he's talking to clubs and more likely to go to Japan?!?!

Not really seen that from JDJ, he's a bit like the SA Fa'ainga

Faingaa ?????You really are a joker pooly

Check this out. He has scored some better ones but this was the curry cup final. Bloke has amazing feet


http://www.rugbydump.com/2012/10/2823/juan-de-jongh-scores-great-try-vs-sharks-celebrates-with-gangnam-style



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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:13 pm

Currie cup is not top standard. Joker because I think he's like Fa'ainga?!?! He offers little attack on Int stage. Fa'ainga has scored good tries at higher level. Get a grip man Wink

Parisse to play against England

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/8543803

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:15 pm

Fa'ainga is a better player imo

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:17 pm

How about this one in super 14 semi final pure stepping class.

The guy is great attacking

http://www.kolchi4.com/watch,r1hq8e8siHk,Juan-de-Jongh-try-vs-the-Waratahs---Super-14-semi-final-2010.html

Is that top level enough for you

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:17 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Fa'ainga is a better player imo

Ha ha ha ha ha

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:24 pm

You can see a montage of some cracking tries including internationals from him
Here.

http://www.kolchi4.com/watch,ZEw04Fdztic,Juan-de-Jongh-Tribute.html

Who on earth has the time to put tribute videos to players together. Seriously weird

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:24 pm

One try, brilliant.

You dismiss Cruden for S15 exploits but one try from JDJ and he's magic?!?

He's too small for a centre imo, just gets dominated when on ball. 6 tries in nearly 50 games is poor in Super rugby.

He has good defensive technique but offers next to nothing in attack on Int stage. Not an Int quality player really, Taute has looked much more accomplished.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:25 pm

Anybody can look good in a montage, average player for me.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:28 pm

5ft 9" and in the 13st's, too small against top class.

Hope you're not pairing him with Barnes, can't see much go forward. Barnes needs a hard running 13 imo

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Post by stnick88 Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:34 pm

He is better than Fa'ainga but not sure he is top int. quality. he does have a good step i remember a good try against Wales he scored.

Fa'ainga better defender though.

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:37 pm

Loads of try's there. Only first choice last years so most appearances as sub.

Most people rate Jdj like i do. Works fine with Barnes more than one way to attack and both are tough as teak in defence.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:43 pm

Odd combo for me, Barnes struggles without hard runner next to him.

Barnes/Kahui is perfect but JDJ just gets dominated in contact. Not fan at all, average player.

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:45 pm

How can he get dominated in contact yet be a good defender ?

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:46 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:5ft 9" and in the 13st's, too small against top class.

Hope you're not pairing him with Barnes, can't see much go forward. Barnes needs a hard running 13 imo

14 to 14 half stone actually

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:47 pm

Ball in hand.

He's a good ankle tackler, never going to knock a guy back as he's tiny.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:49 pm

He's not 14 half stone

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:50 pm

He's not 13 stone

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:51 pm

In the 13st's....come on Matthew, do read before making a comment

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm

Besides the point anyway, he's a small lad.

Dire partner for Barnes, would never work. Average player.

I'll add no more as its clearly upsetting you

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Mar 2013, 2:55 pm

Meyer hates smaller players which is a battle for him. To be fair Meyer has a great team but I doubt be will manage to put it together as he makes poor selection choices.
That said he did start to pick over seas players and be a little more flexible towards the end of the year

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Post by Guest Thu 07 Mar 2013, 7:55 am

Just read a story that billy v was out injured last year due to sleeping on a hot water bottle. Apparently his mum usually puts the cover on but was not there.

If I was in a press conference I would defo not have told them that story. Good work billy.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 07 Mar 2013, 11:46 am

France: Yoann Huget; Vincent Clerc, Florian Fritz, Wesley Fofana, Maxime Medard; Frederic Michalak, Morgan Parra; Thomas Domingo, Benjamin Kayser, Nicolas Mas, Christophe Samson, Yoann Maestri, Yannick Nyanga, Thierry Dusautoir (capt), Louis Picamoles.

Replacements: Guilhem Guirado, Vincent Debaty, Luc Ducalcon, Sebastien Vahaamahina, Antonie Claassen, Maxime Machenaud, Francois Trinh-Duc, Mathieu Bastareaud

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 07 Mar 2013, 12:13 pm

League table updated.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 07 Mar 2013, 12:39 pm

Just wondering how people are going to be looking at fatigue of 6 Nations players first week back after the tournament?

Using my own players as examples I am guessing I will get hammered if I start Castrogiovanni, Hamilton, Dusautoir and Davies who will have played 5 out of 5 in the competition, but maybe not hammered for playing Parra (not completed 80 minutes in the competition so far) or Farrell (will have played 1 and half games in 4 weeks if he faces Wales).

Thoughts?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 07 Mar 2013, 12:47 pm

I will give all players involved in 4 or more games (even off the bench 4 times) the week off. They will be drained mentally if not physically.

One thing I will be particularly tough on is the players involved in the 6N who have played in the rest weeks for their clubs. If they are playing in the round after 6N then I will heavily penalize in predictions as they need rest.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 07 Mar 2013, 12:54 pm

I think I may be getting hammered by you then Steve, as I don't have a lot of option about playing Parra to be honest, as I have 2 scrummies crocked in the injuries. I'm banking on the fact that even hammering him you will probably still rate him higher than O'Leary or Escande, who are my other options.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 07 Mar 2013, 1:19 pm

I can't see any results being changed unless people play a lot of 6n players first week back. will also see what sides irl play

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Post by Guest Thu 07 Mar 2013, 1:36 pm

Good to see my boys in 3rd. First time in top 4 this year:

Big games coming up. I think players need a week to get over 6n full stop. If we complete the grand slam they will be emotionally drained and distracted by all the media activity etc.

For example twelve trees has been doing England videos interviews Etc all over the place and loving the limelight. It takes a while to settle down after a big tournament

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Mar 2013, 1:52 pm

Slater has got some gas for a big lad:

https://youtu.be/b2fDqyXR5UM

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Post by Guest Thu 07 Mar 2013, 1:54 pm

Played a lot of 6. All these modern day players have some serious gas. Slater a great club player. Every team needs players like him

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Post by Guest Thu 07 Mar 2013, 1:55 pm

His problem is he is neither a 4 or 5 a kind of 4.5

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Mar 2013, 2:00 pm

I think he's a 100% 4, he's a big old lump. Deacon has stated he's like a old school Leicester 4.

Good player, we don't have many players like him really.

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Post by Guest Thu 07 Mar 2013, 2:00 pm

I really like him at club level just not aggressive enough to be a 4. Really useful player.

Would love him at glos

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Post by Guest Thu 07 Mar 2013, 2:02 pm

We have Hamilton currently who plays 5 like a 4

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