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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

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Breaking News: Gloucester smash their way into the top 4 for the first time this season, beating local rivals Bath at The Rec. Worcester move up one place condemning Wasps to the bottom of the table after a bonus point win over their relegation rivals.

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2 Homepage - Page 19 7Harlequins17120 5 447 409 +38 49 43 3 5 56
3 Homepage - Page 19 2Gloucester17110 6 435 399 +36 49 41 2 4 50
4 Homepage - Page 19 8Newcastle Falcons17101 6 427 395 +32 45 36 1 6 49
5 Homepage - Page 19 12Sale Sharks17 10 0 7 432 405 +27 47 41 2 7 49
6 Homepage - Page 19 50London Welsh17 8 3 6 401 382 +19 43 36 0 6 44
7 Homepage - Page 19 9Northampton Saints1781 8 425 415 +10 45 43 2 7 43
8 Homepage - Page 19 5London Irish178 0 9 425 422 +3 45 42 2 8 42
9 Homepage - Page 19 1Bath Rugby1780 9 402 410 -8 39 44 0 7 39
10 Homepage - Page 19 11Saracens1741 12 354 430 -76 31 47 0 624
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12 Homepage - Page 19 6London Wasps 1720 15 335 439 -104 29 50 0 11 19






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:02 pm

Lewington is highly thought of - has made appearances this season. Winger primarily, can play full back.

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Post by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:04 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:As long as Palmer isn't back....
Reckon they'll all be fit.

If they are all
Out we could have done with palmer. Cardiff is not a place for debuts. As It is palmer is
Injured.

I would not have palmer in England squads anymore as we have great players coming through but we are screwed if those three are missing!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:04 pm

I think if Sale and Irish survive, they will both fair much better next season providing the important players lost are adequately replaced.

Expect Newcastle and Worcester to struggle. I don't think Hodgson will be good enough to be a first choice AP fly half from what I've seen of him. As much as Pooly dislikes him I don't see how Jimmy Gopperth is anything but a loss to Newcastle.

Unlikely to be anyone outside of that 4 (or Welsh should they leapfrog Sale this season) to go down.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:10 pm

There is no chance you should go down really Steve.

From what I saw yday you were good. Powell and Gaskell excellent.

Hundred times better than your performance the week before at Tigers.

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Post by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:21 pm

How ofton have you seen Hodgson Steve?
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Post by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:28 pm

Luke I think we will be signing him as a fullback. Homer is pretty useless if you ask me and is a weakness in our side. Just gets bumped off tackles too easily, even young Jamie Elliott did it the other day.

Its hard to judge how Falcons would do in this years AP to be honest. On paper Irish and Sale have much better sides but doesnt necessarily mean that we would be above them in the league.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:43 pm

BBC News - Farrell, Launchbury, Lawes and Parling have all been cleared to play this weekend. Phew.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:49 pm

Not a great deal Driver, but from what I have seen when Newcastle have been on sky he hasn't shown to me that he will be a great AP 10. Can only go off what I've seen with my own eyes, which admittedly isn't as much as I'd like.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 5:06 pm

Do they have better sides though Nick?

We have 80 Int caps in our engine room.

Welch is around (probably better than) Gibson, Gaskell level imo.
Hogg is a recent v good Int who's recovered his form and Tu'ifua was MOTM against Wales and Scotland I think over the last year.

I see what your saying that you have more recognised players but neither Sale or Irish seem to be coached well at all.

We all have bias over our own side as we watch them I guess.

Hodgson is quality Steve, has a real class about him. I think he's devoped this season past what George Ford is currently, this is very subjective though I understand.

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Post by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 5:24 pm

I will wait and see how Hodgson plays when he is not getting the arm chair ride he is currently.
Massive difference in ap and championship. Huge step up

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 5:56 pm

Yea agreed, he's looked better than Gopperth tho

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 6:54 pm

Any rumours on the big names you guys are getting for Falcons next season? A year in the championship normally works wonders for any team the next year if they've given some youngsters a start and get enough experienced heads there.

Think Deano is an amazing coach, and he will certainly be a draw for players to sign up. Be great to have Newcastle back in the AP.

AP seems to be giving more opportunities to youngsters this season, wouldnt mind a few more no8s emerging though!

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Post by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 7:07 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8556971,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 7:13 pm

We've been linked to Andy Saull & Dave Wilson recently, would love Wilson back but Saull wouldn't be an improvement on what we have already.

I doubt we'll go for big names, not really Deano's style.

We need a hooker, LH, FH & back 3 player realistically. Cato, Brookes & Clegg could be handy signings. There's also talk of a few NZ lads joining up due to the Russell link.

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Post by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 7:48 pm

Think Cato is a shocking signing and can't see clegg offering much. Teams that come up need a good 9 and 10 to nick the close games. Goal kicking can keep you up.

Deano is a good coach so it will be interesting. Bristol have lots of cash so whoever goes down this year could struggle.


Can't see Wilson going back he is in great form for bath and has England intentions.

Also bath is nice place to live and work

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Post by Fluxy Mon 11 Mar 2013, 8:18 pm

And to study Smile

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 8:18 pm

Rory Clegg is an odd one, thought he was going to be a very good player when he first came through but has really regressed at Quins.

WHoever Falcons get they need a great gk to keep them up through the first season - Worcester have lost so many good players, but I am sure they got a really good fly half from Stade - Warwick I think?

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Post by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 8:26 pm

Are you at bath flux ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 8:31 pm

Warwick more a FB.

Only hold over Wilson is he's a Geordie lad and has stated he wants to come back, when that will be I don't know.

Cato is a typical Deano signing, he likes to get them in cheap and bring them on. He looked a real talent a few seasons back but has lost his way a bit.

We've got a kid called Kirbridge who is dynamite.

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Post by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 8:56 pm

Guildford was the biggest name we've beem linked too, When I met deano the other week he said he trys to build his squads around

3 world class players at 2 8 10
10 establised internationals from tier 1 nations
12 Edtablised Ap players
10 local lads with Falcons at heart
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 11 Mar 2013, 8:59 pm

A fine plan but not one that's easy to implement. If Falcons are to get the world class players they have to pay silly money or wait a few years for gradual improvement.

Do any AP players have 3 world class players? What defines world class?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 9:06 pm

That's pretty much a new squad Driver lol

World class to me is top 3 in your position, I can only really think of Tigers that get close to that in Cole, Youngs & Manu.

It just doesn't seem like a Deano squad, look how he built Quins up. Young, ambitious English players with a point to prove.

I could see us getting one or two current good Ints in, like Ian Evans and John Barclay kind of level but not world class.

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Post by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 9:08 pm

Think he means playrrs who'll make a outstanding contribution like Toni Fuga , Nick Easter and Nev
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 11 Mar 2013, 9:10 pm

Agree Leicester probably the closest.

A lot harder to sign best SH players with French money. Emphasis on youth development has to be there.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 11 Mar 2013, 9:13 pm

If you are suggesting Tani Fuga was world class I will be applying to have you sectioned.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 9:15 pm

All players have the capability to make an outstanding contribution, it's finding the right players for the AP.

Hogg is a good example for us, off the scene and struggling for form when he came. He's been fantastic this season and I've no doubt he'll make an impact back in the AP.

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Post by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 9:19 pm

Just thinking who was quins 2 at the time
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Post by prop_lyd Tue 12 Mar 2013, 5:33 pm

POC completed 40mins for Munster A today.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 12 Mar 2013, 5:35 pm

Sure he'll be injured next week then! Wink
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Post by CJB Tue 12 Mar 2013, 7:39 pm

Anyone fancy a deal, could potentially lose Rougerie

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Post by Fluxy Tue 12 Mar 2013, 8:37 pm

I could be up for a deal

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 12 Mar 2013, 9:36 pm

Players available for next season.

PR Sona Taumalolo (Tonga) (1)
PR Logovi'i Mulipola (Samoa) (3) on loan to Wasps
LK James Craig (E)
LK Alun Wyn Jones (Wales)
LK Patricio Albacete (Argentina)
OS Julian Salvi (Australia)
SH Nick Phipps (Australia)
FH/FB Danny Cipriani (E)
CE Ashley Beck (Wales)
WG Sitiveni Siviatu (NZ)
FB Niall Morris (Ireland)
FL Ben Nutley (E) - 07/04/1992
WG/CE Tomasso Benvenuti (Italy) 12/10/1990 - on loan to Wasps



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Post by CJB Tue 12 Mar 2013, 10:48 pm

Anyone got a FH I can loan?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 12 Mar 2013, 11:06 pm

I'm just watching the LV Cup semi final between Quins and Bath. Did anyone see Wallace's offload for Williams try. Sensational.
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Post by Guest Wed 13 Mar 2013, 7:12 am

Wallace been great over 6n period. Robshaw may play a bit more 6 next year to accommodate him.

Quins have had so few injuries in Backrow that his chances have been limited

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Post by stnick88 Wed 13 Mar 2013, 8:45 am

another good signing for Bristol, Skirving!

Whoever goes down will have a some strong competition in the Championship from them.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 13 Mar 2013, 11:25 am

I'm looking for a lock on loan until the end of the season if anyone has one.

Also about for some deals, either for the end of the season or now.
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Post by stnick88 Wed 13 Mar 2013, 12:23 pm

lads am after centres and wingers.

who is available?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 13 Mar 2013, 1:12 pm

The following players are available ( can do now or end of season). Am looking for a loosehad and hooker who are NH players, and a scrum half from the SH. (* denotes EQ, not necessarily looking for EQ back.)

Brett Sturgess*
Chris Whitehead*
Ofisa Treviranus
Sione Kalamafoni
Semisi Taulava*
Tomas O'Leary
Nicolas Bezy
Pat Howard
Andrew Trimble
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 13 Mar 2013, 2:35 pm

Burgers comeback put back again!

http://www.rugby365.com/article/52594

I just they like taunting you Matt

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 13 Mar 2013, 3:01 pm

http://www.exeterchiefs.co.uk/news/nowell-collects-lv-award/

Surprised Nowell beat Wallace & Yarde to this, he's looked good mind

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 13 Mar 2013, 3:01 pm

Bloody hell, Ferris off to Japan!

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/japan-bound-ferris-set-to-leave-ulster-1.1324280

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Post by Fluxy Wed 13 Mar 2013, 3:27 pm

Don't suspect there to much truth in both of them going, especially before the world cup!
http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8562434,00.html

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Post by stnick88 Wed 13 Mar 2013, 3:47 pm

that award is voted for by public though isnt it?


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Post by Fluxy Wed 13 Mar 2013, 5:43 pm

Anyone interested in Brad Barritt?

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 8:21 am

It's high season for speculation. New financial year in April and most pro rugby contract have a June expiry.

Every agent threatens that the player is off somewhere to increase their salary. Same every year

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 8:28 am

He is back but for how long ?
http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8563703,00.html

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 8:30 am

You only ever post bad news for me pooly ! You miss the good news lol

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_8563728,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 14 Mar 2013, 8:37 am

Sorry Matt, was just in shock at Ferris one.

Apparently not a done deal but be surprised if he doesn't, he needs the big pay day with him probably having to retire early. Cracking player.

Good to see Genia back, Reds have missed him

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Post by Guest Thu 14 Mar 2013, 9:25 am

Can't blame ferris for going but he is ambitious and loves to play for Ireland. I think ferris leaving is a 100 to 1 shot


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