Burns v Gonzalez

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I don't know too much about Gonzalez, but think Burns should be good for a pts victory in this one. What do you guys think?

Injury?

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a joke and what a let off for Burns

Gonzales should be ashamed, bolted it when he was on top

What?!

All he had to do was walk around the ring for a bit, and he's won

Out on his shield there.

Crazy finish. What the hell happened there?

People questioned the heart of Ortiz when he quit after a broken jaw, this guy has quit and is blaming a hand injury. Pathetic.

He is victor Ortiz in disguise

I reckon it was fixed. No way would he quit when he was winning that easily.

didn't see any of that coming. wow. genuinely felt a bit sick after round 7...

He is victor Ortiz in disguise

Very odd. Okay Burns had taken control but all Gonzalez had to do was see out the last 3 rounds and you feel sure he would have won.

Nick Hawling please remove your head from the backside of Ricky Burns? Show of character, he got a very lucky escape because his opponent has no heart.

Something is definitely aloof here.

Theres nothing wrong with Gonazales, he was paid to quit...

Doesn't appear too bothered with his hand. He's either a quitter or a diver

Massive credit to Burns. I have been a fierce critic of his, but he is a credit to boxing.

Boring f@rt outside the ring, but Ricky "Mr Personality" Burns is something else inside the ring.

Ent wrote:Theres nothing wrong with Gonazales, he was paid to quit...

i agree. Even in the 2 rounds that Gonzalez took off as a rest Burns landed nothing and was chasing air. Very strange to just quit when you are winning so easily.

Doesn't look like he has a lot wrong with his hand now does it...

Looked perfectly comfortable and could've coasted to victory.

I don't think it was an injury it seemed that Gonzalez had just had enough. Look at his trainer's reaction - he was shocked which he wouldn't have been if he knew of an injury.

Ent wrote:Theres nothing wrong with Gonazales, he was paid to quit...

Was he paid to dominate the early stages and then quit later on? Seems like an odd arrangement to me.

he's a quitter but he knew he gave burns his best shots and had nothing left. would have got stopped eventually

He's moving his right hand fine there, bottle job

He gassed and then just happened to "break his hand", what a coincidence

Vasquez beats Burns easy as does Abril

I have to say burn's conditioning to come out as strong as he did after the 7th was impressive

azania wrote:Massive credit to Burns. I have been a fierce critic of his, but he is a credit to boxing.

Boring f@rt outside the ring, but Ricky "Mr Personality" Burns is something else inside the ring.

Burns did nothing in that fight. It reminded me of an episode of the simpsons when Homer became a boxer and won all of his fights because he let his opponents just punch him in the head until they got tired and quit lol

Suspicious Betting patterns springs to mind.

He must have had such a wager on himself to get stopped. QUITTER!!!!

You'll be sure that Hearn won't be ringing that team in the near future for a rematch

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:Doesn't appear too bothered with his hand. He's either a quitter or a diver

Diver, rightly Hearn gets credit but in reality his only top level fighters are Froch (not the best in his division) and Haye (who hasn't fought for him yet and is best of the rest in heavyweight).

They mentioned a broken wrist.

Weird though.........

Massive anti climax, could have gotten much more dramatic if it had continued.

Remember though that Burns has been out of the ring for 9 months so rust was going to be there.

After that we have to give credit to people like Mayweather and Martinez who fight on with a broken hand for the majority of the fight.

He was giving Burns a boxing lesson up until then.

Don't understand why he quit, but he clearly lost something after the 7th round.

Strongback wrote:They mentioned a broken wrist.

Weird though.........

Agreed. Look at the trainer's reaction. That wasn't one of someone who knew his fighter had an injury.

9 months but has been in the gym the entire time and has sparred loads so its not like a proper stint of inactivity

djlovesyou wrote:

Ent wrote:Theres nothing wrong with Gonazales, he was paid to quit...

Was he paid to dominate the early stages and then quit later on? Seems like an odd arrangement to me.

Why quit when you are 5 ahead for 3 to go for a world title....

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:9 months but has been in the gym the entire time and has sparred loads so its not like a proper stint of inactivity

Sparring and training is not boxing a fight though is it?

Very odd.

I don't buy a fix as Gonzalez put too much into the other rounds to suggest he was in Scotland for a dive.

Also, he landed plenty of huge shots so it would have been a rubbish attempt at a fix if he'd knocked Burns out.

Ent wrote:

djlovesyou wrote:

Ent wrote:Theres nothing wrong with Gonazales, he was paid to quit...

Was he paid to dominate the early stages and then quit later on? Seems like an odd arrangement to me.

Why quit when you are 5 ahead for 3 to go for a world title....

Who knows? But if you're getting paid to lose, a bad way of doing it would be do be in front and then quit on your stool.

I would imagine the Hearns would have a better plan in place than that.

mmmm sky talking nonsense, lose the majority of rounds and you are an inspiration to fighters and youngsters - paid off opponent.

Disgrace.

Gonzales punched himself out in 7th. He knew Burns was going to pour it on him in the last 3 rounds and I dont think he fancied it.

CaledonianCraig wrote:

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:9 months but has been in the gym the entire time and has sparred loads so its not like a proper stint of inactivity

Sparring and training is not boxing a fight though is it?

to be honest it never looked like ring rust, it looked like he was being totally outclassed by a better boxer.

Cannot believe the guy quit on his stool when he was winning so easily.

Ent wrote:

djlovesyou wrote:

Ent wrote:Theres nothing wrong with Gonazales, he was paid to quit...

Was he paid to dominate the early stages and then quit later on? Seems like an odd arrangement to me.

Why quit when you are 5 ahead for 3 to go for a world title....

you think you might get knocked out...

CaledonianCraig wrote:

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:9 months but has been in the gym the entire time and has sparred loads so its not like a proper stint of inactivity

Sparring and training is not boxing a fight though is it?

Ring rust in a pathetic excuse. Hard sparring is as good as a fight.

If you were Hearn why would you pay a guy to knock 7 shades out of your own fighter, make him look 2nd rate and then quit??

Why the hell would you quit on your stool if you were at least 5 ahead, unhurt etc and going for a world title fight.

Offered a million to quit mid fight imo.

nobody is going to knock ricky burns out. it'll take a lot to get him out of there

Ent wrote:Why the hell would you quit on your stool if you were at least 5 ahead, unhurt etc and going for a world title fight.

Offered a million to quit mid fight imo.

Disagree there Ent, many guys would have been knocked out by some of the shots he hit Burns with... That's not the behaviour of a fix.

Ent wrote:Why the hell would you quit on your stool if you were at least 5 ahead, unhurt etc and going for a world title fight.

Offered a million to quit mid fight imo.

As someone said, he would have been gutted had those big punches in the 7th stopped burns.

You sound a touch bitter about something to be honest.

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:He is victor Ortiz in disguise

I cant really work out how people say that, these guys are very brave people and take alot of punishment, only they know if they can continue or not and its their lives and likelihood so wont quite easy. Ortiz was right to quit with his jaw broken a lodged open. Dont see Ortiz as a quitter at all. If he was a quitter he would not still be boxing.

Burns was quite honest at the end saying the guy was giving him nightmares. Very awkward

The guy was punched out, had nothing left, and didnt fancy the hard three rounds Burns was going to attack him with everything.

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:He is victor Ortiz in disguise

Nah mate Victor Ortiz bagged the WBC welterweight title before he 'let' Lopez win