2012/13 Premier League discussion thread. The Final Day and Off Season

by Guest Sun 19 May 2013, 5:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lets bring her home!

by nasisillmatic Fri 31 May 2013, 4:08 pm

I don't think this has anything to do with money, he wants to play for a better club in the Champions League.

I just would have liked him to give us 1 more season, where he keeps performing the way he has, but without the stupid incidents.

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 4:40 pm

chris.wilkerson13 wrote:Good news for Liverpool then? I mean, their points ratio is better without him right?

Try finding a world class striker now, got to hope money talks on this one

The stats don't lie Chris my flower.

Liverpool haven't signed a world class (or borderline world class ) striker since Torres. Can't see that changing during the summer.

by nasisillmatic Fri 31 May 2013, 4:42 pm

So is Suarez not world class?

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 4:48 pm

nasisillmatic wrote:So is Suarez not world class?

He wasn't when we signed him no. Is he now? Possibly but being the liability that he is dilutes him.

I don't share this thought that losing him will see us drift into mid table mediocrity like many believe.

by GSC Fri 31 May 2013, 4:49 pm

Suarez is easily world class.

by **hampo17** Fri 31 May 2013, 5:01 pm

Probably worth remembering that Suarez is very wasteful in front of goal, don't get me wrong he has improved this season but we need a very clinical striker. If he wants to leave let him, no point having an unhappy player at the club.

by **VDT** Fri 31 May 2013, 5:17 pm

I think if he goes, Liverpool should raid Villa for Bent and Benteke

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 5:30 pm

Bent???

Come on he is the perfect fit for a Palace.... Liverpool need to look for a lot more than that!

by **VDT** Fri 31 May 2013, 5:44 pm

He's a proven goalscorers who won't break this bank

Sturridge, Bent, Benteke and Borini is a decent 4 for a team at Liverpool's level

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 5:47 pm

I want him at palace so you wont get me agreeing with you..

Liverpool need some star quality to replace Suarez.. 40 mill plus the 15 odd from carrol, plus the rest of the transfer budget.. Come on is time to get signings..

by NickisBHAFC Fri 31 May 2013, 5:49 pm

Benteke would be perfect for Liverpool

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 5:54 pm

Well palace are going to offer 8 mill for bent.. others may follow- this price may go up(which seems mental to me.. we ship zaha for 15 yet have to pay so much for such less quality!!- that offcourse is the way it works if you are a palace!!)

Benetke is supposedly targetted by Athletico for the tune of 17.5 mill.

If liverpool want them be prepared to pay..

Personally If you are shipping suarez- Try and do a partial swap deal with some quality at madrid( shame higuain has gone!!)

by GSC Fri 31 May 2013, 5:57 pm

I'd be disappointed if Benteke signed for Liverpool

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 6:00 pm

GSC wrote:I'd be disappointed if Benteke signed for Liverpool

Why?

by GSC Fri 31 May 2013, 6:04 pm

Genuinely want to see him at a top club

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 6:04 pm

GSC wrote:Genuinely want to see him at a top club

by NickisBHAFC Fri 31 May 2013, 6:20 pm

Liverpool under Rodgers will be a huge success. They had a good first season under him, i expect even more from them next season and i could potentially see them getting 4th spot.

by GSC Fri 31 May 2013, 6:29 pm

Without Suarez, not a hope.

by Ent Fri 31 May 2013, 6:30 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Liverpool under Rodgers will be a huge success. They had a good first season under him, i expect even more from them next season and i could potentially see them getting 4th spot.

On the sauce early tonight Nick?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 31 May 2013, 7:41 pm

I'd call Liverpool's season last year the definition of mediocrity. If anything they did worse than the year before

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 8:05 pm

6 fingered tractor boy wrote:I'd call Liverpool's season last year the definition of mediocrity. If anything they did worse than the year before

The league campaign was better than the previous season.

Nice username Olly. Lose another bet?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 31 May 2013, 8:08 pm

Yeah unfortunately but I can deal with it.

by GSC Fri 31 May 2013, 8:10 pm

I still back the name of "Olly's mum/sister"

by Duty281 Fri 31 May 2013, 8:20 pm

By the sounds of it, Suarez is going to ditch Liverpool even though they want him to stay. I would have thought after all Liverpool had done for him, he might show a bit of loyalty and perseverance, but no. He's a vile person, a terrible role-model, and the PL will be better off without him. Liverpool will be better off without him.

by GSC Fri 31 May 2013, 8:22 pm

I'm not sure Liverpool will be better off without him. That they've pandered to him so much, reflects just how vital he is to them as their last player of genuine world class talent.

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 8:24 pm

Time will, obviously, tell. How much do you reckon he'll be sold for?

I'd go with 30m.

by GSC Fri 31 May 2013, 8:24 pm

Heard 40m and 47m

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 8:36 pm

He wont go for 30 m. The buy out clause is 40m . Liverpool wont release him for less.

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 8:37 pm

mystiroakey wrote:He wont go for 30 m. The buy out clause is 40m . Liverpool wont release him for less.

Do buy out clauses hold water though?

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 8:40 pm

can you see liverpool releaseing him for less.

Liverpool are holding firm saying they want to keep him for this reason.

They are telling potential club's he isnt going for less than 40m..

If he was rubbish they would ship for whatever.

they just need to hold firm and they will get 40 plus

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 8:41 pm

remember that legally - if he was to go for 30 million Suarezhimself would be liable for the other 10m!

by Ent Fri 31 May 2013, 8:43 pm

Duty281 wrote:By the sounds of it, Suarez is going to ditch Liverpool even though they want him to stay. I would have thought after all Liverpool had done for him, he might show a bit of loyalty and perseverance, but no. He's a vile person, a terrible role-model, and the PL will be better off without him. Liverpool will be better off without him.

Anyone could have told you that, it's the luiz Suarez show, he is thick and doesn't realise what has been done for him - but a life in football is very short and as soon as he isn't capable any more hell be ditched with very few friends. Although his bank balance will comfort him.

by Ent Fri 31 May 2013, 8:43 pm

mystiroakey wrote:remember that legally - if he was to go for 30 million Suarezhimself would be liable for the other 10m!

How so?

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 8:47 pm

Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:remember that legally - if he was to go for 30 million Suarezhimself would be liable for the other 10m!

How so?

he has a 40m release clause..

If he leaves under his own instruction during his contract he or the club buying have to pay the release clause..

If a club is only willing to pay less than 40m.. and suarez still wants to go. He would be forced to pay the difference(If liverpool wanted to make it stick that is!)

on the filp side

If liverpool wanted to ship him under contract and suarez didnt want to move on. He would be entitled (legally) to the rest of his contract salary..

Its the way contracts work. That doesnt mean to say they are allways carried out

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 8:49 pm

This whole "release clause" thing is just speculation though.

I've read plenty of times that so and so has a release clause to then be moved on for a lot less than the stated figure.

We'll see what happens.

by **Hero** Fri 31 May 2013, 8:53 pm

Completely hypothetical question here to Utd fans.

Would you like Utd to trigger Suarez's release clause?

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 8:53 pm

he admitted he has one from the sources i have read

As I said they are not allways carried out.

In this case I cant see anyway he wont go for 40m or more..

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 31 May 2013, 8:54 pm

For me its now time for Liverpool to make a hefty profit and move on!

That money can be reinvested, and its upto Rodgers how and how well

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 8:58 pm

Yep I agree olly.

Get rid, Not worth the hassle anymore any way..

But he is top class and highly valued.. I cant see him not going to madirid either. They have got rid of Higuan. He will be a slight improvement. What other striker out there could be bought for 40m that is available

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 8:59 pm

Hero wrote:Completely hypothetical question here to Utd fans.

Would you like Utd to trigger Suarez's release clause?

I would imagine that if 'Pool were genuine title rivals to Utd then the answer would be maybe but I can't imagine many Utd fans wanting him on board myself.

Would you Hero?

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 9:00 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Yep I agree olly.

Get rid, Not worth the hassle anymore any way..

But he is top class and highly valued.. I cant see him not going to madirid either. They have got rid of Higuan. He will be a slight improvement. What other striker out there could be bought for 4m that is available

Glen Murray? Very Happy

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 9:00 pm

Thats naughty Freek.

He is worth 90m anyway Whistle

by DP Fri 31 May 2013, 9:01 pm

Absolutely not.

Great player, shocking attitude and would bring too much disrepute with him, pretty sure Moyes would kick a lump out of him.

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 9:01 pm

I see what you did there as well.

You took out a zero!!!!

by The Special Juan Fri 31 May 2013, 9:02 pm

Hero wrote:Completely hypothetical question here to Utd fans.

Would you like Utd to trigger Suarez's release clause?

Good one. I needed cheering up. #JusticeForEvra

by Bull Fri 31 May 2013, 9:02 pm

Hero wrote:Completely hypothetical question here to Utd fans.

Would you like Utd to trigger Suarez's release clause?

i would rather Utd went for a another strike instead of Suarez to be perfectly honest.

i think Suarez would cause trouble at United with Evra being there and everything.

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 9:03 pm

mystiroakey wrote:I see what you did there as well.

You took out a zero!!!!

Can't beat a bit of cheesy banter Myst. Plenty more of that to come this coming season!

by Holymiky Fri 31 May 2013, 9:03 pm

Apparently Sunderland have agreed a deal to sign Diakite from Lazio on a free transfer and the Falcao transfer to Monaco is complete for a reported 50 million.

by mystiroakey Fri 31 May 2013, 9:05 pm

FreekShow wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:I see what you did there as well.

You took out a zero!!!!

Can't beat a bit of cheesy banter Myst. Plenty more of that to come this coming season!

Go easy on me pal.. It could be a very long and tough season

by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 9:06 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:I see what you did there as well.

You took out a zero!!!!

Can't beat a bit of cheesy banter Myst. Plenty more of that to come this coming season!

Go easy on me pal.. It could be a very long and tough season

I'm rooting for ya buddy. Loves the underdog does Freek.

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