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Post by lydian Fri 07 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

First topic message reminder :

So...1 hour to go, thought I'd create a specific match thread.

Its clear blue skies over Paris, not a cloud in sight and temp is already 26.5c and rising. Latest pic and temperature:
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So the heat is literally on!

12pm GMT we have Nadal vs Djokovic, followed by David vs Goliath.

We've seen the predictions, heard the impersonations and listened to the musical quips, just need the action to start now!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:19 pm

Have to agree with JM, neither of these guys is on top form but Novak looks a bit lost
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:20 pm

Lunchtime! There's no greater irony than criticising a sportsperson when sitting down eating Very Happy
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Post by kingraf Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:22 pm

The lad at BBC just texted that Djokovic is 6'3, Ive heard Robbie Koenig list him at 6'4, yet he never ever seems taller than 6'2 Tsonga... Lazy reporting.
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Post by summerblues Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:22 pm

Sloppy game from both. Nole looking very non-Nolesque right now.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:24 pm

Rafa gets called on time Shocked
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Post by Jahu Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:26 pm

The blondie was looking at me.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:26 pm

Djokovic not at the races
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:26 pm

His returns are not threatening enough, so easily for Rafa to hold serve
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Post by HM Murdock Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:26 pm

Rafa seems to be serving well today, that's making a huge difference.

Novak's radar seems a little off. He setting up the points pretty well, moving Rafa into position but then missing the final shot.

If this is the wind affecting him again, he really has to sort that out - it's an outdoor sport for goodness sake!

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Post by The Special Juan Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:27 pm

kingraf wrote:The lad at BBC just texted that Djokovic is 6'3, Ive heard Robbie Koenig list him at 6'4, yet he never ever seems taller than 6'2 Tsonga... Lazy reporting.

I wouldn't say he was any more than 6'1/6'2. Murray's 6'3 or something and is the tallest of the Big Four.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:29 pm

This really isn't a very interesting match to watch, unless you're partisan I guess.
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Post by Jahu Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:29 pm

Djoko debalanced like a headless chicken.
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Post by CAS Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:29 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
_homogenised_ wrote:I am not buying the nonsense about Nadal's legs anymore. It's funny how he was supposedly finished and yet he's back, seemingly being in every final (unless Novak beats him), and running exactly the same as before. I call cowpat on it. If it really was as bad as it was said to be, there's no way he could come back playing to any kind of standard, and running the same as before.

If that's what you need to believe


Djokovic really is making unforced errors you wouldn't expect him to

It is kind of true, if Nadal was a footballer and he had just played a match where you couldn't really see much wrong with him other than a below par performance you can't imagine they would suddenly be out for 7/8 months.
Personally, I dont think that there was a major problem but a constant niggling one and the Rosol match was the last straw. And he said to himself, "thats it, I'm not playing anymore until this pain goes away"

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:30 pm

You can't do that against Nadal, you just can't
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Post by Jahu Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:30 pm

Rafa brakes again. All done all done.
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:30 pm

"Signal Lost" picard
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:31 pm

Turning into the worst match of the tournament, going to drink very early today thanks alot Nole
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Post by bogbrush Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:31 pm

HM Murdoch wrote:Rafa seems to be serving well today, that's making a huge difference.

Novak's radar seems a little off. He setting up the points pretty well, moving Rafa into position but then missing the final shot.

If this is the wind affecting him again, he really has to sort that out - it's an outdoor sport for goodness sake!
I think it's a combination of ridiculous bounce (see how weak Nadal looked in the early rounds when the ball stayed down) plus he's playing very badly.

It's really rubbish, to my eyes.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:31 pm

bogbrush wrote:This really isn't a very interesting match to watch, unless you're partisan I guess.

It's still not that interesting whilst Novak makes so many unforced errors, I'll freely admit that to see the best of Nadal you need someone to force him to make retrievals and to attack and he doesn't really need to do that yet
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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:32 pm

_homogenised_ wrote:I am not buying the nonsense about Nadal's legs anymore. It's funny how he was supposedly finished and yet he's back, seemingly being in every final (unless Novak beats him), and running exactly the same as before. I call cowpat on it. If it really was as bad as it was said to be, there's no way he could come back playing to any kind of standard, and running the same as before.


You really are a fan of Nadal arn´t you ??? Whistle So glad you are obviously enjoying the match Laugh

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Post by kingraf Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:32 pm

"Brakes" again, Jahu? with ABS?

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Post by banbrotam Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:32 pm

Oh dear! Since that ankle incident, it's been the Novak of 2009

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Post by HM Murdock Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:32 pm

Oh, rotten drop shot!

I'm starting to think the game is up. Novak now needs two breaks of serve and he has yet to muster even one break point.

And you don't come back from two sets down v Rafa at RG.

On the positive side, I'm feeling less nervous now!

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Post by michael_o Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:33 pm

Djokovic seems totally unable to cope with the high bounce. Backhand largely ineffective today. Rafa's walking this at the moment.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:33 pm

Still think Tsonga could beat Rafa if they both get through, needs to go all out attack like Rosol or Soderling though
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Post by barrystar Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:33 pm

IBM slamtracker is quite interesting - if you look at "keys to the match" Nadal has been hitting all three of his keys for most of the match, and where he's fallen short he's been much closer to them than Djoko.

Something very radical is going to happen or this damp squib of a tournament is going to continue to rumble towards its drearily inevitable conclusion as Nadal tears whoever his opponent is a new one on Sunday.
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Post by HM Murdock Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:35 pm

bogbrush wrote:It's really rubbish, to my eyes.
It certainly not shaping up to be a classic.

If Novak can get a break and get the wind in his sails, we might get an interesting match.

Rafa appears to have a pretty tight grip on it though.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:35 pm

Novak fans we know who you are saying how he can compete with Nadal unlike Roger, what are they going to say after today?
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Post by Jahu Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:35 pm

King, no ABS, like the old stly sliding and smell of rubber. Laugh
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Post by CAS Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:35 pm

I have no doubt Novak will wake up but he has to do it before he goes 2 sets down,

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:36 pm

This is what Novak needs to do, but a bit of hyperbole from the ITV commentators there. "Magnificent"?!
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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:36 pm

And that was shocking
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Post by kingraf Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:37 pm

Guys we have to look at the bright side, Nadal has finally been accepted as overlord by the French. It was rocky for a few years, but they got behind their king when his kingdom got challenged.
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Post by CAS Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:39 pm

game on!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:39 pm

Well, this might come to life yet
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Post by CAS Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:40 pm

6-3 Nole this set?

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Post by HM Murdock Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:40 pm

And there's the break back!

Come on Novak, stoke those fires!

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Post by banbrotam Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:41 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Novak fans we know who you are saying how he can compete with Nadal unlike Roger, what are they going to say after today?


I've an idea. Let's wait until the match is over? picard

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:41 pm

Must try and make Nadal go for big shots, that is how he found success against him in the past
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Post by summerblues Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:43 pm

Nole back in this set, but still looking very unconvincing. He looks very tense out there; maybe the occasion is getting to him a bit too.

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Post by barrystar Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:46 pm

kingraf wrote:Guys we have to look at the bright side, Nadal has finally been accepted as overlord by the French. It was rocky for a few years, but they got behind their king when his kingdom got challenged.

Why is that a bright side? They've always known he's the best clay courter ever, whether or not they like him is neither here nor there I'd say.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:48 pm

"World Class?"

Note that when he uses it, Nadal's touch at the net is actually sublime
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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:50 pm

Played Djokovic. My prediction of Nadal in 4 looks alive
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Post by HM Murdock Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:51 pm

FIRE IN THE HOLE!

Come on Novak, serve this out, make a game of it.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:51 pm

Momentum Novak
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Post by summerblues Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:52 pm

Nole upping his game now. Can Rafa respond?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:52 pm

Yes
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Post by CAS Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:54 pm

just seen a tweet "Everybody come back in 2 hours for the 5th set" Laugh

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Post by summerblues Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:55 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a match.

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Post by _homogenised_ Fri 07 Jun 2013, 1:56 pm

Ooooo Just seen the score change. Has Novak raised his game? Come on Nole, blow away this moonballer! Novak in 4 still on.


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