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Brumbies vs Lions Tuesday
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[quote="George Carlin"]Brumbies team is up, Maes:
15-Jesse Mogg,
14-Henry Speight,
13-Tevita Kuridrani,
12-Andrew Smith,
11-Clyde Rathbone,
10-Matt Toomua,
9-Ian Prior,
8-Peter Kimlin (captain),
7-Colby Faingaa,
6-Scott Fardy,
5-Sam Carter,
4-Leon Power,
3-Scott Sio,
2-Siliva Siliva,
1-Ruan Smith.
Replacements: 16-Josh Mann-Rea, 17-Jean-Pierre Smith, 18-Chris Cocca, 19-Etienne Oosthuizen, 20-Jordan Smiler, 21-Mark Swanepoel, 22-Robbie Coleman, 23-Zack Holmes.
Lions team: Rob Kearney, Christian Wade, Brad Barritt, Billy Twelvetrees, Shane Williams, Stuart Hogg, Ben Youngs; Ryan Grant, Rory Best (capt), Matt Stevens, Ian Evans, Richie Gray, Sean O'Brien, Justin Tipuric, Toby Faletau
Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Alex Corbisiero, Dan Cole, Geoff Parling, Dan Lydiate, Conor Murray, Owen Farrell, Simon Zebo
This team points to a number of players who must be fringe selections or definitely not going to make it.
[quote="George Carlin"]Brumbies team is up, Maes:
15-Jesse Mogg,
14-Henry Speight,
13-Tevita Kuridrani,
12-Andrew Smith,
11-Clyde Rathbone,
10-Matt Toomua,
9-Ian Prior,
8-Peter Kimlin (captain),
7-Colby Faingaa,
6-Scott Fardy,
5-Sam Carter,
4-Leon Power,
3-Scott Sio,
2-Siliva Siliva,
1-Ruan Smith.
Replacements: 16-Josh Mann-Rea, 17-Jean-Pierre Smith, 18-Chris Cocca, 19-Etienne Oosthuizen, 20-Jordan Smiler, 21-Mark Swanepoel, 22-Robbie Coleman, 23-Zack Holmes.
Lions team: Rob Kearney, Christian Wade, Brad Barritt, Billy Twelvetrees, Shane Williams, Stuart Hogg, Ben Youngs; Ryan Grant, Rory Best (capt), Matt Stevens, Ian Evans, Richie Gray, Sean O'Brien, Justin Tipuric, Toby Faletau
Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Alex Corbisiero, Dan Cole, Geoff Parling, Dan Lydiate, Conor Murray, Owen Farrell, Simon Zebo
This team points to a number of players who must be fringe selections or definitely not going to make it.
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glamorganalun wrote:maestegmafia wrote:Gats said that Saturdays test side will not be drafted until after this game.
You believe that statement, the forwards and half backs have just played together and Gatland is protecting the backs by using no hopers in his mind. The subs for Tuesday are the test subs. My biggest fear is he will pick Maitland if North is injured, give me Zebo every time after the last game.
Have a read of Fox Sports Glam mate...!
The Lions might be three games into their Australian tour but Im still struggling to work out which starting 15 coach Warren Gatland will go with.
Based on previous tours, I thought we would see the likely first Test team run out against the Waratahs at Allianz Stadium on Saturday night, but I think Gatland and his coaching staff will be treating this game as another audition.
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From what I’ve seen on tour and from what some of the travelling journos have told me, those most likely are Halfpenny (15), North (11), O’Driscoll (13), Sexton (10), Phillips (9), Adam Jones (3) and Corbisiero (1).
So this week Gatland will need to have another look at his back rowers.
I’m a big fan of Irishman Sean O’Brien, but he has tour captain Sam Warburton and Justin Tipuric also vying for the No.7 jersey. O’Brien can also play blindside flanker, but will he get the nod ahead of Dan Lydiate and Tom Croft.
Jamie Heaslip has been impressive on tour but Toby Faletau might nudge him out of the No.8 jersey. He’s Welsh and he’s delivered for Gatland in big games before.
The hooker role seems to be a battle between Rory Best and Tom Youngs.
With Tommy Bowe on the injured list and unavailable for the first test, Alex Cuthbert is the front runner for the other wing spot. But I’ve been impressed by ex-Crusader Sean Maitland and it wouldn’t surprise me if Quade Cooper’s cousin gets a start after just five caps for his adopted Scotland.
As far as the Locks are concerned, there’s plenty of tall timber to pick from so Gatland will be keeping a close eye on the performances against the Tahs. Geoff Parling has impressed. The Welsh duo of Alun-Wyn Jones and Ian Evans have good form on the board, and Scotsman Richie Gray won’t let the side down.
Ireland’s Paul O’Connell’s past leadership and overall experience might be enough to impress selectors.
That just leaves inside centre.
Jamie Roberts was all the rage but he failed to impress against Combined Country in Newcastle. He’s under pressure from England’s Manu Tuilagi and fellow Welshman Jonathan Davies.
Whatever happens against the Waratahs, it will be a strong Lions team to take on the Wallabies in the first Test in Brisbane on June 22. The side that runs out against the Brumbies next Tuesday in Canberra will be playing for a spot on the bench at best.
The Waratahs would’ve learned a few things from the Reds’ effort against the Lions last week and should be prepared to throw everything at the tourists. Without their many Wallaby reps, Michael Cheika’s men will treat this game as their ‘Final’ as they won’t be featuring in the Super Rugby play-offs.
It’s a great opportunity for mainly second stringers to impress their Coach and stake a claim for next season.
The effort against the Force in Perth last week by the make-shift Tahs’ line up was impressive, especially in the first half. They have everything to gain against the Lions.
The Brumbies will also be keen to make a statement without their Wallabies next Tuesday. They’ve booked a spot in the play-offs and will have some time off after this game. An upset win over the Lions will be a great confidence boost when Super Rugby resumes in a few weeks.
Finally, the first four Inside Rugby Magazine Wallabies Invincibles have been named and I wasn’t surprised when Col Windon, Mark Ella, Ken Catchpole and David Campese got the nod.
I was one of the judges and our brief was to vote for players who had the X-Factor.
Players who had the ability to change a game and who were the best in the world in their position throughout the majority of their career. All four Invincibles ticked the boxes.
But I must admit that it’s hard for someone in the front row, or even the tight five, to stand out as much as a classy back rower or back.
Catchpole, Ella and Campese wouldn’t have been able to do what they did without the tight five delivering them a platform.
John Eales will surely be an Inductee at some stage, and I hope it’s not too long before a front rower is honoured. The next intake will be next year.
Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/fox-sports-rugby-expert-greg-clarke-believes-lions-coach-warren-gatland-is-yet-to-settle-on-line-up/story-fn5k35fo-1226662816133#ixzz2WVkxsMLU
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That article was written before the Tah's game. The Fox Sport Commentary team for the Tahs game were saying that Sean O'Brien is the unluckiest Lion because Warburton is Tour Captain (one even claimed he was their Player of the Tour so far) and they thought Zebo was 'sensational.'
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Just placed a couple of bets to make tomorrow even more nervy/interesting (not that I'm not nervous anyway). Brumbies were [url=7/2]Odds[/url] for the win. I'd have thought given the back lines and that, they might've been a bit closer. Lions clear favourites.
I can't call this one.
I can't call this one.
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Despite the very last minute look to the Lions squad for the Brumbies, I think the Lions are equal or better at every position. The very makeshift aspect to the Lions line-up is what contributes to the main advantage the Brumbies might have.Risca Rev wrote:Just placed a couple of bets to make tomorrow even more nervy/interesting (not that I'm not nervous anyway). Brumbies were [url=7/2]Odds[/url] for the win. I'd have thought given the back lines and that, they might've been a bit closer. Lions clear favourites.
I can't call this one.
I remain unenthusiastic about this match as I feel the week leading up to the Tests should not have midweek matches. Plus, with the incredible injury toll, any kind of game time becomes a worry.
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last game before the test . unfortunatly in work can't watch it ,hope shane, barritt and wade have a stormer . come on lions
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Best of luck to the Lions.
It's actually a pretty decent Lions team - England midfield, UK/Ireland's best young wing talent who clocked an 11.1 time for 100m when he was 17 years of age and an excellent back row. Not even the Squashed Goblin's defensive meanderings should cost us and he is likely to even score a little.
Come on your Lions. Nic White being injured is a big plus for us. We just need to stop Kimlin, Speight and Mogg.
It's actually a pretty decent Lions team - England midfield, UK/Ireland's best young wing talent who clocked an 11.1 time for 100m when he was 17 years of age and an excellent back row. Not even the Squashed Goblin's defensive meanderings should cost us and he is likely to even score a little.
Come on your Lions. Nic White being injured is a big plus for us. We just need to stop Kimlin, Speight and Mogg.
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Turnover by Wade - Barnes so confused by it that he wrongly assumes it was Tipuric
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Detailed updates appreciated fellas!
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Amazing pass from one of the Brumbies and a well worked try
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Wade and Keaney diabolical there.
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Wade and Kearney awful in defence there but it all came from dreadful work from Youngs at the rucks. Slower than Phillips!
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Being slow at the ruck isn't an issue if you're box-kicking. Not a good kick though.
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He is not organising his forwards well enough to set up kicks and then doesnt kick well. Its a bad start for him imo
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Funny, not watching as at work but had just read the Telegraph update that told me how well Youngs had started
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Considering the Brumbies try came from his mistake I'd say thats very generous from the Telegraph
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I can't watch as at work too, but can listen on the link below.
http://tunein.com/radio/RT%C3%89-R1-Extra-s70136/
http://tunein.com/radio/RT%C3%89-R1-Extra-s70136/
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Listening on the radio, is Wade having a stinker? Sounds like it from here, few knock ons, missed tackle and bundled in to touch - doesn't sound like the best of starts besides the early turnover
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That's why Best and Grey aren't test quality.
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Best is dire at the lineout as well. Getting nothing from the front 5 so far.
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Is it the throwing or the jumping?
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Hogg and Mogg haha.
The kicking is pathetic. RUN!!!!!!
The kicking is pathetic. RUN!!!!!!
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Sounds like we are trying to force it a bit and need to calm down
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I'd say Wade is doing what he can but yeah hes looking a little off the pace so far. But he is offering himself a lot more than Williams in the opening 20
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From the BBC
BBC Sport wrote:
2 mins:
ACT Brumbies 0-0 Lions
Shane Williams nearly scores!
Justin Tipuric forces a turnover, Billy Twelvetrees kicks deep and Jesse Mogg takes the ball back into his 22 before kicking out on the full.
The Lions win the line-out through Richie Gray, Ben Youngs and Christian Wade combine sweetly and when the ball goes wide, Williams is bundled into touch a couple of metres from the line.
TRY (KURIDRANI, MISSED CON PRIOR) - ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Shane Williams can't gather a kick from number eight Peter Kimlin but Stuart Hogg cleans up.
However, Ben Youngs misses touch with his clearance Kick, Jesse Mogg flings it wide and Tevita Kuridrani swats aside Christian Wade on a powerful run to the line.
10 mins:
ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
In preparation for Wimbledon, the two teams indulge in pretty much the first kick tennis of the tour, brought to an end when Stuart Hogg knocks on chasing his own kick.
13 mins:
ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Ben Youngs and Christian Wade try to work something down a narrow blind-side but there is no space and the winger is forced into touch. Brumbies defending well in Canberra.
15 mins:
ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Jesse Mogg rifles a kick straight into touch for the second time from his own 22 to give the Lions great field position. They win the line-out and drive 10m before moving the ball wide.
Stuart Hogg finds Christian Wade with a neat inside ball but the winger - fresh off the plane from Argentina - spills it. Not at their best at the moment the Lions
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But of both RDW. Couple of bad throws and jumpers being easily read by the Brumbies.
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Shane Williams is the best goal kicker there.
No joke.
He kicked a lot of points for Neath.
No joke.
He kicked a lot of points for Neath.
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How is tipuric doing? He's done well against the worst teams, how's he going against the (theoretically) the best?
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MISSED PENALTY (Hogg) - ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Here come the Lions. They dive off a line-out in the Brumbies 22, the forwards make a series of carries and the hosts fall offside.
Very kickable this - but Stuart Hogg drills the kick against the post.
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ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Worrying signs for the visitors. They win a line-out and look to unload their power runners but Billy Twelvetrees is halted by a big tackle and when Toby Faleatau tries his luck he is turned over.
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Back row is the only thing that seems to be working so far.
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Hearing that the front row is very under powered? We suffering in the scrums?
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Scrums are pretty equal i suppose.
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24 mins:ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Tevita Kuridrani breaks and offloads to set open-side Colby Faingaa free, but Rob Kearney times his intervention to perfection.
At the ensuing ruck Justin Tipuric wins another turn over - he's really putting his hand up for Saturday, but can he oust Sam Warburton?
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Jake you wily old dog.... who scheduled this match for a weekday prior to the first test.
Jake White, the top side in SR with 11 1st team regulars starting. Madness.
Jake White, the top side in SR with 11 1st team regulars starting. Madness.
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27 mins:
ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
The Lions win another turn over, but when Ben Youngs finds Shane Williams he is ruled to have - just - out a foot in touch.
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29 mins:
ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
The first time the Lions centres would have met fly-half Stuart Hogg would have been on Sunday. They may have trained together twice. Probably just once. We can forgive them a little lack of cohesion.
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A mid ranking League game at the moment...mid season too...
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This is a dull game of kick tennis with lots of handling errors. Uninspiring stuff from the Lions
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30 mins:
MISSED PENALTY (Mogg) - ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Medics on to look at Sean O'Brien, who is holding his hand. Jesse Mogg is to go for goal from well inside his own half, with the benefit of a breeze at his back.
BOOM. But the kick drifts wide and the Lions escape. O'Brien is OK to continue.
33 mins:
ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Brumbies rock solid at the scrum. Stuart Hogg kicks deep, Jesse Mogg takes the mark and clears.
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Awful game.
I wish Dylan Hartley was here!
I wish Dylan Hartley was here!
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From the sound of things it seems like Hogg in good player but not a fly half yet shock.
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35 mins:
ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Lions throw not straight. Rory Best's throwing is about as straight as a boomerang, you can see why he didn't make the cut initially.
37 mins:
MISSED PENALTY (Prior) - ACT Brumbies 5-0 Lions
Lions flanker Sean O'Brien penalised for holding on on their own 10m line.
Scrum-half Ian Prior to go for goal - but misses left. The Lions should be trailing by more than they are.
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Halftime
Hogg to 15
Farrell at 10
Kearney off
Lydiate parling and hibbard on
Grey off
Hogg to 15
Farrell at 10
Kearney off
Lydiate parling and hibbard on
Grey off
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starting to make the decision to go for hartley instead of best the right one now.
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Doesn't sound great so far this match! Really hope Williams and Wade can get in the match in the second half.
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