Brumbies vs Lions Tuesday

by maestegmafia Sun 16 Jun 2013, 9:39 am

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[quote="George Carlin"]Brumbies team is up, Maes:

15-Jesse Mogg,
14-Henry Speight,
13-Tevita Kuridrani,
12-Andrew Smith,
11-Clyde Rathbone,
10-Matt Toomua,
9-Ian Prior,

8-Peter Kimlin (captain),
7-Colby Faingaa,
6-Scott Fardy,
5-Sam Carter,
4-Leon Power,
3-Scott Sio,
2-Siliva Siliva,
1-Ruan Smith.

Replacements: 16-Josh Mann-Rea, 17-Jean-Pierre Smith, 18-Chris Cocca, 19-Etienne Oosthuizen, 20-Jordan Smiler, 21-Mark Swanepoel, 22-Robbie Coleman, 23-Zack Holmes.

Lions team: Rob Kearney, Christian Wade, Brad Barritt, Billy Twelvetrees, Shane Williams, Stuart Hogg, Ben Youngs; Ryan Grant, Rory Best (capt), Matt Stevens, Ian Evans, Richie Gray, Sean O'Brien, Justin Tipuric, Toby Faletau

Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Alex Corbisiero, Dan Cole, Geoff Parling, Dan Lydiate, Conor Murray, Owen Farrell, Simon Zebo

This team points to a number of players who must be fringe selections or definitely not going to make it.

by **Rugby Fan** Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:53 am

I could take a loss if there was any sign that the players had a clue. We are 14-3 down and don't even look like scoring.

by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:53 am

LordDowlais wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:Tuperic has been the standout player of the first half, what people are saying on here about him is laughable. For me, the players that need to up their game's are Best, Youngs, Wade and Grey. Our line out is a farce, I bet nobody is calling for Gatlands head now for picking Hartley before him, and anybody who thinks Youngs should start ahead of Phillips should just watch this first half, unless said players up their game, or they are replaced, we are going to loose this match.

Wade's just midweek cover anyway, isn't he? Called up until North is fit?

Yes, but unless he improves, or is replaced, we are not going to win "THIS" game.

Seems unlikely, mate. Wingers don't win games, they only finish the chances made by the other backs, who rely on the pack, who actually win the match. Unless he misses more tackles, matches are not lost by wingers

Pretty basic rugby knowledge, that

Are you even watching the game ? He has knocked the ball on a couple of times coughing up good possession, when playing rugby you are not supposed to drop the ball. Pretty basic rugby knowledge, that.

No I'm watching the game but the strong impression I'm getting from everywhere is that we are losing this game because our entire backline is disorganised, our pack are getting beaten in all areas (even the scrum), Youngs is passing tripe, we have lost every single lineout, missed kicks and are generally being utterly outplayed. Not sure that subbing off Wade for Zebo will fix that

by patersonismyhero Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:53 am

The coaching of this game has been absolutely pathetic. Seems like Gatland doesn't care much at all about this match.

by nobbled Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:54 am

No way we can win playing this badly. Need to make some personnel changes now.

by **Rugby Fan** Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:54 am

There surely comes a point when even throwing players won't get the momentum back.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:54 am

BBC Sport wrote:53Mins:
PENALTY (Mogg)- ACT Brumbies 14-3 Lions
Ryan Grant penalised for pulling a man out of a ruck by his head. Poor discipline, another shot at goal for the hosts.

Jesse Mogg bang on target, that unbeaten tour looking more unlikely by the minute.

by jelly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:54 am

offload wrote:
jelly wrote:I can't see Gatland being too bothered by this game. What is worse; lose this game and keep everyone fit for Saturday or bring some subs on to try and win a (in the grand scheme of the tour) meaningless game and get an injury to one of the squad for the first test?
No way - Gatland will be effing furious if they loose this.

Why? He has hardly picked the strongest team he could have done. He hadn't exactly rushed to make changes when players (Best being the most obvious one) are playing badly. He only cares about the tests and rightly so.

by nobbled Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:54 am

No way we can win playing this badly. Need to make some personnel changes now.

by GLove39 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:55 am

Hogg knocks over his 2nd penalty. 14-6

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:56 am

Notch wrote:
bsv wrote:Best is having a nightmare and I'm not even watching it. Get him off. We have to win our own lienout ball. 10 meters from the Brumbies line and a minute later we are now defending on our own lie? Simply atrocious.

Oh believe me Best is having a nightmare but we'll still be losing plenty of lineouts once he comes off. No-one is moving at all. We look like we have put all our lineout calls in the cupboard for Saturday and the forwards are standing static, not moving at all and getting up into the air ver-y, ver-y slowly.

I don't think it excuses at least three (plus one he got away with) not straights, especially when his man is up. Have to feel sorry for him. Ulster will have some work to do to build his confidence up again.

by aitchw Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:56 am

They're going to make a lot of subs now. New front row and others.

by bluestonevedder Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:56 am

Notch wrote:
bsv wrote:Best is having a nightmare and I'm not even watching it. Get him off. We have to win our own lienout ball. 10 meters from the Brumbies line and a minute later we are now defending on our own lie? Simply atrocious.

Oh believe me Best is having a nightmare but we'll still be losing plenty of lineouts once he comes off. No-one is moving at all. We look like we have put all our lineout calls in the cupboard for Saturday and the forwards are standing static, not moving at all and getting up into the air ver-y, ver-y slowly.

It's such a shame, I really wanted Best to take this opportunity, but if it's as you say, it doesn't sound like he is getting much help.

by nobbled Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:56 am

Here comes new front row - lets see what we can do.

by Scoped Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:57 am

Thats better!!

by offload Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:58 am

jelly wrote:
offload wrote:
jelly wrote:I can't see Gatland being too bothered by this game. What is worse; lose this game and keep everyone fit for Saturday or bring some subs on to try and win a (in the grand scheme of the tour) meaningless game and get an injury to one of the squad for the first test?
No way - Gatland will be effing furious if they loose this.

Why? He has hardly picked the strongest team he could have done. He hadn't exactly rushed to make changes when players (Best being the most obvious one) are playing badly. He only cares about the tests and rightly so.

I begg to differ. This team should still put away the Brumbies missing so many players. Gatland will want all the momentum going into the first test. He will be furious at this shambles. Of course he cares more about the tests but he will still be gutted at this performance.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:58 am

BBC Sport wrote:56 mins:
PENALTY (Hogg) - ACT Brumbies 14-6 Lions
Chance for the Lions to trim the gap - Matt Toomua penalised for holding on as Sean O'Brien jackals to perfection. Stuart Hogg makes no mistake.

Lions bring on an entire new front row, plus Dan Lydiate for Sean O'Brien in the back row.

by bluestonevedder Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:58 am

Much better sounding scrum!

by nobbled Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:58 am

Murdered that scrum! Excellent - penalty.

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:59 am

Think Toby Faletau is doing ok really, considering he has no platform and playing against a tenacious Brumbies defence.

by Scarpia Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:59 am

Why is Stuart Barnes so obsessed with Corbisiero?

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:59 am

57 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-6 Lions
First scrum with the new boys sees the Lions edge forwards, but when Alex Corbisiero carries for the first time he is smashed back in the tackle by Matt Toomua - fly-half on prop. Oof.

by nobbled Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:00 pm

Here come Farrell, Parling and Murray

by **Notch** Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:01 pm

Risca Rev wrote:
Notch wrote:
bsv wrote:Best is having a nightmare and I'm not even watching it. Get him off. We have to win our own lienout ball. 10 meters from the Brumbies line and a minute later we are now defending on our own lie? Simply atrocious.

Oh believe me Best is having a nightmare but we'll still be losing plenty of lineouts once he comes off. No-one is moving at all. We look like we have put all our lineout calls in the cupboard for Saturday and the forwards are standing static, not moving at all and getting up into the air ver-y, ver-y slowly.

I don't think it excuses at least three (plus one he got away with) not straights, especially when his man is up. Have to feel sorry for him. Ulster will have some work to do to build his confidence up again.

Oh no, he's responsible for about 25% of our lineouts going awry, with the other 25% collective failures- then we won 50% but not much clean ball.

Desperate stuff from our lineout tonight- but we do look like we've put our lineout calls away ahead of Saturday. Bestie will be fine. He's made of very stern stuff.

I hate this quote function which doesn't let you type your reply underneath.

by nobbled Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:01 pm

Here come Farrell, Parling and Murray

by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:01 pm

Scarpia wrote:Why is Stuart Barnes so obsessed with Corbisiero?

He's English

by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:01 pm

Notch wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:
Notch wrote:
bsv wrote:Best is having a nightmare and I'm not even watching it. Get him off. We have to win our own lienout ball. 10 meters from the Brumbies line and a minute later we are now defending on our own lie? Simply atrocious.

Oh believe me Best is having a nightmare but we'll still be losing plenty of lineouts once he comes off. No-one is moving at all. We look like we have put all our lineout calls in the cupboard for Saturday and the forwards are standing static, not moving at all and getting up into the air ver-y, ver-y slowly.

I don't think it excuses at least three (plus one he got away with) not straights, especially when his man is up. Have to feel sorry for him. Ulster will have some work to do to build his confidence up again.

Oh no, he's responsible for about 25% of our lineouts going awry, with the other 25% collective failures- then we won 50% but not much clean ball.

Desperate stuff from our lineout tonight- but we do look like we've put our lineout calls away ahead of Saturday. Bestie will be fine. He's made of very stern stuff.

I hate this quote function which doesn't let you type your reply underneath.

Far right on tool bar, switch editor mode

by bluestonevedder Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:01 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
Scarpia wrote:Why is Stuart Barnes so obsessed with Corbisiero?

He's English

He is also a very good scrummager. Needs to do more in the loose though.

by Pyleboy65 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:02 pm

What odds on Shane scoring the winning try?

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:02 pm

BBC Sport wrote:58 mins:
MISSED PENALTY (Hogg) - ACT Brumbies 14-6 Lions
That's more like it, real power from the Lions eight. Alex Corbisiero must have been mightily narked by that tackle, because this time the England loose-head and fellow replacements Dan Cole and Richard Hibbard drill the Brumbies back like an engine shunting a waggon into the sidings.

They make 15m before the penalty comes, but Stuart Higg hits the woodwork again.

by jelly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:03 pm

Notch wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:
Notch wrote:
bsv wrote:Best is having a nightmare and I'm not even watching it. Get him off. We have to win our own lienout ball. 10 meters from the Brumbies line and a minute later we are now defending on our own lie? Simply atrocious.

Oh believe me Best is having a nightmare but we'll still be losing plenty of lineouts once he comes off. No-one is moving at all. We look like we have put all our lineout calls in the cupboard for Saturday and the forwards are standing static, not moving at all and getting up into the air ver-y, ver-y slowly.

I don't think it excuses at least three (plus one he got away with) not straights, especially when his man is up. Have to feel sorry for him. Ulster will have some work to do to build his confidence up again.

Oh no, he's responsible for about 25% of our lineouts going awry, with the other 25% collective failures- then we won 50% but not much clean ball.

Desperate stuff from our lineout tonight- but we do look like we've put our lineout calls away ahead of Saturday. Bestie will be fine. He's made of very stern stuff.

I hate this quote function which doesn't let you type your reply underneath.

Click the picture above that looks like a document "Switch Editor Mode" and you can quote as normal.

by theslosty Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:03 pm

Would appear that SOB will be on the bench come Saturday.

by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:04 pm

theslosty wrote:Would appear that SOB will be on the bench come Saturday.

Or that Gatland actually wants to win this match

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:04 pm

Pyleboy65 wrote:What odds on Shane scoring the winning try?

It's setting up for him. Have to offer a bit more in attack before that though.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:04 pm

61mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-6 Lions
New half-backs for the Lions, including Owen Farrell for Stuart Hogg.

by fa0019 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:05 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
Scarpia wrote:Why is Stuart Barnes so obsessed with Corbisiero?

He's English

From what I recall Barnes is the most anti-english commentator out there with Jerry Guscott.

by jelly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:05 pm

offload wrote:
jelly wrote:
offload wrote:
jelly wrote:I can't see Gatland being too bothered by this game. What is worse; lose this game and keep everyone fit for Saturday or bring some subs on to try and win a (in the grand scheme of the tour) meaningless game and get an injury to one of the squad for the first test?
No way - Gatland will be effing furious if they loose this.

Why? He has hardly picked the strongest team he could have done. He hadn't exactly rushed to make changes when players (Best being the most obvious one) are playing badly. He only cares about the tests and rightly so.
I begg to differ. This team should still put away the Brumbies missing so many players. Gatland will want all the momentum going into the first test. He will be furious at this shambles. Of course he cares more about the tests but he will still be gutted at this performance.

Sorry, not saying he won't want to win as he will. Just that it won't be his biggest priority.

by lostinwales Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:06 pm

Bets on 2 more Farrell penalties and a 15-14 win?

by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:06 pm

fa0019 wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
Scarpia wrote:Why is Stuart Barnes so obsessed with Corbisiero?

He's English

From what I recall Barnes is the most anti-english commentator out there with Jerry Guscott.

But he loves to pick an English player and crush on him

by theslosty Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:06 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
theslosty wrote:Would appear that SOB will be on the bench come Saturday.

Or that Gatland actually wants to win this match

SOB was one of the Lions' better performers and won an important penalty just before he came off... and Lydiate isn't exactly a matchwinner Headscratch

by LordDowlais Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:07 pm

lostinwales wrote:Bets on 2 more Farrell penalties and a 15-14 win?

I'll take that. Yahoo

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:09 pm

BBC Sport wrote:62 mins:
PENALTY (Farrell) - ACT Brumbies 14-9 Lions
It says something about the precision kicking of Leigh Halfpenny that the laser-guided boot of Owen Farrell is only the number two option for the Lions on this tour.

When Josh Mann-Rea is penalised for not rolling away up steps the England youngster to trim the gap to five points.

by Bathman_in_London Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:09 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
Scarpia wrote:Why is Stuart Barnes so obsessed with Corbisiero?

He's English

The welshman or the American do you mean?!

by Pyleboy65 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:09 pm

Just lost my bet on Shane

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:09 pm

BBC Sport wrote:66 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-9 Lions
Rob Kearney is awesome in the air and he reclaims his own kick in style, but the support is not there and he is penalised for holding on. Dopey from the Lions forwards, could cost them.

by offload Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:10 pm

Williams off for Zebo ?

Well Gats I hope that was worth it. Headscratch

by Pyleboy65 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:11 pm

Who is captain now Best gone off?

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:12 pm

offload wrote:Williams off for Zebo ?

Well Gats I hope that was worth it.

It is really. They had to protect Zebo for as long as possible

by offload Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:12 pm

Great kick from Farrell

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:12 pm

BBC Sport wrote:69 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-9 Lions
The oldest winger in town leaves the pitch. Surely that's the last time Shane Williams will wear a Lions shirt? On comes Simon Zebo.

Lions struggling to establish field position for the last five minutes.

by GLove39 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:12 pm

Great steal by Richie Gray

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