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Post by maestegmafia Sun 16 Jun 2013, 9:39 am

First topic message reminder :

[quote="George Carlin"]Brumbies team is up, Maes:

15-Jesse Mogg,
14-Henry Speight,
13-Tevita Kuridrani,
12-Andrew Smith,
11-Clyde Rathbone,
10-Matt Toomua,
9-Ian Prior,

8-Peter Kimlin (captain),
7-Colby Faingaa,
6-Scott Fardy,
5-Sam Carter,
4-Leon Power,
3-Scott Sio,
2-Siliva Siliva,
1-Ruan Smith.

Replacements: 16-Josh Mann-Rea, 17-Jean-Pierre Smith, 18-Chris Cocca, 19-Etienne Oosthuizen, 20-Jordan Smiler, 21-Mark Swanepoel, 22-Robbie Coleman, 23-Zack Holmes.


Lions team: Rob Kearney, Christian Wade, Brad Barritt, Billy Twelvetrees, Shane Williams, Stuart Hogg, Ben Youngs; Ryan Grant, Rory Best (capt), Matt Stevens, Ian Evans, Richie Gray, Sean O'Brien, Justin Tipuric, Toby Faletau

Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Alex Corbisiero, Dan Cole, Geoff Parling, Dan Lydiate, Conor Murray, Owen Farrell, Simon Zebo

This team points to a number of players who must be fringe selections or definitely not going to make it.


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Post by offload Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:13 pm

Risca Rev wrote:
offload wrote:Williams off for Zebo  ?

Well Gats I hope that was worth it.  Headscratch

It is really. They had to protect Zebo for as long as possible
Well let's hope Zebo scores Rev, coz if he gets hurt now, Gatland looks a bit dim.  It's not like Williams was awful.
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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:13 pm

BBC Sport wrote:70 mins:
PENALTY (Farrell) - ACT Brumbies 14-12 Lions
Much better from the Lions as they steal a line-out. Owen Farrell will look to give the Brumbies a dig in the flanks.

Surgical. Earn me another shot at goal, he seems to be urging, quite happy to win ugly.
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Post by The Bachelor Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:14 pm

did Gray have a good first half? He's had some great steals at the lineout in the second.

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Post by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:16 pm

offload wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:
offload wrote:Williams off for Zebo  ?

Well Gats I hope that was worth it.  Headscratch

It is really. They had to protect Zebo for as long as possible
Well let's hope Zebo scores Rev, coz if he gets hurt now, Gatland looks a bit dim.  It's not like Williams was awful.

Ah, I see your point. I think 70ish minutes was about Williams' limit

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Post by patersonismyhero Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:16 pm

Gray had some good plays in the loose but absent in the lineout given his size. Shows you what a change in the personnel around you can do.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:17 pm

BBC Sport wrote:73 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-12 Lions
We're right into the guts now. Lions probe but forced to kick.. but turn it back over! Simon Zebo makes a slashing break, Lions recycle and Christian Wade grubbers through.

Jesse Mogg clears but not far, throw-in Lions., This could be the key moment.
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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:18 pm


75 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-12 Lions
Lions grind from the line-out and then go wide. Big men run hard and the Lions get to within five metres, but become isolated and the Brumbies turn it over.
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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:19 pm


76 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-12 Lions
Brumbies delay a line-out throw. Lions take the scrum. Can they lay down their power?

Free-kick Lions. They'll go again. They want a penalty here.
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Post by offload Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:19 pm

Last chance now - inside 2 minutes
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Post by GLove39 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:20 pm

so, scrum to the brumbies on the Lions 22 with 2 minutes left. Ermmm?

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Post by jelly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:20 pm

How can you lose your own scrum?

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:21 pm

bbc sport wrote:78 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-12 Lions
What happened there? Somehow the Brumbies steal the ball against the head. Awesome from the hosts, the crowd goes berserk.

Jesse Mogg finds a huge clearance kick, the Lions take a quick throw-in but the ball doesn't go five, scrum Brumbies.


Mogg wasn't too far off making the Wallabies playing XXIII. Quality


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Post by whocares Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

thanks Pete in adding the BBC live text thumbsup

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Post by SecretFly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

Barnes is quiet for some reason Wink

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

We really need to avoid underestimating the Aussie scrum on Saturday, this Brumbies scrum is missing Alexander and Moore
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Post by Scoped Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

Ref is a joke there. Brumbies sealing off the entire time. Utter pathetic from Lions though. Joke of a team

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:23 pm

whocares wrote:thanks Pete in adding the BBC live text thumbsup


No worries.

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Post by offload Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:23 pm

Well done - Brumbies.  Deserved win.
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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:23 pm

79 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-12 Lions
Lions make a mess of the home scrum but the hosts secure the ball. They drive around the fringes, can the Lions turn it over?
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Post by GLove39 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:23 pm

Well done to the Brumbies. Only team to score a try, deserved the win clap

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:23 pm

On par with a Cardiff Blues performance.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:24 pm

Actually great for the tour...Congrat to the Brumbies, deserved it.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:24 pm

BBC Sport wrote:80 mins:
ACT Brumbies 14-12 Lions
You could throw a blanket over the Brumbies as they inch forwards around the fringes. Scrum Brumbies. Lions have to do something here, because that unbeaten record is set to go the way of black and white TV.

FULL-TIME - ACT Brumbies 14-12 Lions
There goes the unbeaten record!
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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:25 pm

Well done Brumbies, Lions did not take this game seriously enough early enough. Think they'll still win T1, but lose the Series
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Post by Notch Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:25 pm

Deserved win for the Brumbies- Lions didn't take this game seriously and we were exceptionally poor for 60 mins.
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Post by bluestonevedder Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:25 pm

Well done Brumbies.

Some serious questions for the Lions to answer. Non-existant breakdown work, and poor lineout. Who is coaching the lineout?

Very, very, very poor. Not to take anything away from the Brumbies.

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Post by nobbled Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:26 pm

Gatland played third choice players for too long. Disappointing. Now we go into the Test with no momentum. We go in without any more injuries which I guess was the point, but really a shame.
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Post by aitchw Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:26 pm

Outstanding from the Brumbies, well done. Gatland, what a shambolic display! Credit to the subs though, they nearly got it back.

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Post by Looseheaded Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:27 pm

Matt Stevens needs to be put down for his being utterly useless at everything. Rory Best can just go away now i supported his inclusion but that was truly awful

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Post by LondonTiger Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:27 pm

I will excuse the back line, the 3/4s has not trained together more than a brief run around, the 10 was out of position.


The starting pack though were woeful.

Well done Brumbies.

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:27 pm

I don't think many Lions enhanced their credentials to play on Saturday. Very disappointed in Best, the second row, the back row and Youngs. Kearney did pretty well but his part in the Brumbies try was diabolical.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:28 pm

Did the Lions insult the Brumbies by putting out a weakened side against them?

I must ask Mr Woodward what he thinks? Wink

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Post by fa0019 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:29 pm

what happens when you play a guy at 10 who had 1 match experience in his entire pro career in the position... you played there at school right hoggy??

Just for reference... Bakkies Botha and Danie Russouw were the halfbacks of their pre-teen school team (they've literally grown up together).

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Post by Bathman_in_London Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:30 pm

Big mistake for me for Gatland not to want to lay down a marker. Especially after all the talk of weak opposition in the warm up games. A decent opposition turns out and the Lions field a backline who have just met and a pack who looked like it didnt care.
The wallabies will have their tails up watching this.

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Post by Knackeredknees Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:30 pm

Looseheaded wrote:Matt Stevens needs to be put down for his being utterly useless at everything. Rory Best can just go away now i supported his inclusion but that was truly awful

That's right the complete cluster Frak that was the opening 60min was all down to Stevens!

None of the forwards bar SOB and Tupric played anywhere near good enough

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Post by Duty281 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:31 pm

Meh. Third choice Lions lose to the Brumbies. Nothing much to see here, a first choice Lions XV would have caned the Brumbies, who were pretty poor themselves. Can't wait for Saturday.

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Post by Scoped Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:31 pm

Kearney was one of the worst offenders in my opinion. Got sucked into a kicking battle he was never going to win and rarely reclaimed his own kicks.

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Post by lostinwales Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:31 pm

should of brought subs on at least 10 minutes earlier. NVM - next grame

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:32 pm

I'm really disappointed for Hogg this tour. Such a talent utterly wasted by Gatland through poor initial selection.

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Post by Icu Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:32 pm

Awesome effort from a 2nd string Brumbies side. They were without Moore, Alexander, Palmer, George Smith, Pocock, Aluea, White, CL, McCabe and Tomane. I thought the Lions would have performed better despite being a "scratch" team. They are all seasoned internationals with 100's of caps. The Brumbies boasted one international (Kimlin) with a grand total of 2 caps. Another feather in the cap for Jake White.


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Post by LondonTiger Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:33 pm

Knackeredknees wrote:
Looseheaded wrote:Matt Stevens needs to be put down for his being utterly useless at everything. Rory Best can just go away now i supported his inclusion but that was truly awful

That's right the complete cluster Frak that was the opening 60min was all down to Stevens!

None of the forwards bar SOB and Tupric played anywhere near good enough

to be honest I would say including SOB and Tipuric. SOB was shipping too many penalties, while despite Barnes and Harrison trying to talk him into the team Tipuric was largely invisible and when seen was lightweight.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:34 pm

Scoped wrote:Kearney was one of the worst offenders in my opinion. Got sucked into a kicking battle he was never going to win and rarely reclaimed his own kicks.

He had a lot of confidence in the running game I guess Wink Meaning 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14 really looked up for it

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Post by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:34 pm

No momentum lost, no advantage Australia. I'm sure Deans etc are realistic to note that not many of those players will feature on Saturday.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:35 pm

Icu wrote:Awesome effort from a 2nd string Brumbies side. They were without Moore, Palmer, George Smith, Pocock, Aluea, White, CL, McCabe and Tomane. I thought the Lions would have performed better despite being a "scratch" team. They are all seasoned internationals with 100's of caps. The Brumbies boasted one international (Kimlin) with a grand total of 2 caps. Another feather in the cap for Jake White.

Well, in this case not quite true, but well done the Brumbies. I am looking forward to seeing what the Aussie backline can do on Saturday. I think this game did matter, as the Aussies will certainly get a boost in confidence
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Post by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:35 pm

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Knackeredknees wrote:
Looseheaded wrote:Matt Stevens needs to be put down for his being utterly useless at everything. Rory Best can just go away now i supported his inclusion but that was truly awful

That's right the complete cluster Frak that was the opening 60min was all down to Stevens!

None of the forwards bar SOB and Tupric played anywhere near good enough

to be honest I would say including SOB and Tipuric. SOB was shipping too many penalties, while despite Barnes and Harrison trying to talk him into the team Tipuric was largely invisible and when seen was lightweight.

Which is why in an inevitable dogfight v the Wallabies, Warburton was always the likelier option.

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Post by nathan Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:37 pm

@icu

hoe many many months of playing together?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:38 pm

Risca Rev wrote:No momentum lost, no advantage Australia. I'm sure Deans etc are realistic to note that not many of those players will feature on Saturday.

Doesn't matter, it's a Squad feeling. If your 2nd team lose at school/uni, it affects the moral of the whole club. And the Aussies' seconds that played (those who trained in the squad before being released) should bring the reverse to the Aussie XV who will have been happy to see their clubmates beat the Lions. Players like Alexander, Moore, Lealiifano and Tomane who will play
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Post by Higher_Ground Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:38 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I'm really disappointed for Hogg this tour. Such a talent utterly wasted by Gatland through poor initial selection.






Not true, he had plenty of minutes at fulback where he failed to impress in any way.  If Gatland hadn't have named him as a 10, he wouldn't have featured much at all. 

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Post by aucklandlaurie Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:40 pm


The Brumbies beat a second string Lions side that never looked like they could score a try, Warren gatland wont mind he's kept his top team away from injury, they will be ready to go on the weekend.

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Post by RDW Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:41 pm

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