2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread ......Continued

[Kenny]

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2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread
 by Dr Gregory House MD on Mon May 27, 2013 1:46 am
Now that the season has drawn to a close, I thought I'd put up a thread to discuss possible transfer business.

Rumours, Predictions, Hopes and Actualities all welcome here

[Guest]

Yeah, I just get infuritated with Gibbs' injury record so just omitted him. I still think Monreal is probably going to play over Gibbs. Wilshere is injury prone and yeah i accept your point but hopefully he can turn it around and would obviously be paired with carrick. Wide left is Podolski's position and rooney can't play there. kagawa likes a more central role, hence why i chose podolski over both of them. you could switch cazorla to the left and put rooney in behind rvp which i could accept as being just as strong. interesting though how strong arsenal's line up is, they just cant defend and have no striker now. 6-5 split is interesting. wenger needs to spend ASAP on key positions before it's too late

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Arsenals biggest problem seems to be self belief. Talent is there, mindset isn't

[compelling and rich]

Defence and keeper are miles behind for me. They dont have much back up in postions either. Vidic on form is one of the best cb in the world yet we've hardly missed him with evans form. Also think arsenal balance in midfield is too attack heavy and dont give enough protection to the weak defence

I know defensively thet were improved last season but I wouldnt take any if thier cbs over any of ours

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Vidic hasn't reached the level of 2009 for quite a while now. Koscielny and Mertesacker actually played well as a duo and Monreal did well. Sagna past it but Jenkinson had some good games.

Never rated Vermaelen

[Guest]

Yeah, too attack minded are Arsenal and the defence is just way too leaky along with the keeper. I know Arsene wanted M'vila but got priced out of a move and then they wanted that Kondogbia from Sevilla. Surprised they haven't added another centre back as of yet, Vermaelen's form has dropped considerably and is now injury prone. Ashley Williams is the main target from Swansea but we all know that British players are over-priced and that is probably what has put Wenger off. Can definitely see a move for Begovic further down the line.

Apparently, Newcastle will finalise a £5m deal for Darren Bent early next week when Kinnear returns from Holiday. Hopefully it's true, just need to get players in now and get them in for pre-season.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Toby Alderweireld has rejected a move to Norwich apparently

I'm not too surprised. He can do a lot better

[Fernando]

Im happy to have a terrible defense if it means coming 2nd on the list for conceding least amount of goals over a season behind Man Utd only 

[compelling and rich]

Not sure how I see cisse and bent playing together, cant imagine either will be happy sitting on the bench. Of the types of forwards out there not sure bent is what you need

[compelling and rich]

Im happy to have a terrible defense if it means coming 2nd on the list for conceding least amount of goals over a season behind Man Utd only 

Yet still finished miles behind united with all your attacking flair? Its all about balance and last season you had to over compensate for your weaknesses in defence imo

[Guest]

No we need a Benteke type of striker, who's tall and powerful and can bring the midfielders into the game, just like Ba did. Of course, Benteke coming to us is never going to happen. Cisse was dreadful last year and there were rumours of Anzhi bidding £18m for Cisse, so it could still be a replacement option. Look, I'm just desperate for some new options to the team and Bent is a proven goalscorer, irrelevant of his lack of technique.

[Fernando]

Im happy to have a terrible defense if it means coming 2nd on the list for conceding least amount of goals over a season behind Man Utd only 

Yet still finished miles behind united with all your attacking flair? Its all about balance and last season you had to over compensate for your weaknesses in defence imo

Coming 2nd on the defensive table behind Man Utd is a very good considering we can't defend apparently. We didn't have attacking flair last year so your talking out your ass bro, We struggled to break sides down on regular occasions and that's what created the big points difference where United would win 1-0 we'd draw or lose.

[compelling and rich]

Must be getting confused as I keep getting told that arsenal have many players better than united midfield upwards yet hardly anyone has any of your defence in with ours

[Fernando]

That's because your wide players are were extremely poor last year and Cazorla was the difference between 4th and 5th place for us hence everyone has gone that way.

Let's face it no one really wanted to put Rafael in their side he's just the lesser of 2 terrible RB's. Plus Walcott had a decent season scoring 20+ goals in all competitions. Nani/Young were awful and Kagawa didn't play as much as he really should for you guys.

[compelling and rich]

Still not rating your defence no matter how many stats you throw at me, mertesacker can barely run decent in the air but any quick player gets at him hes doomed. Sanga has been awful for a while now. And koscielny doesnt read the game very well gets caught out a fair bit but doesnt look too bad as he's pretty quick and can recover sometimes. If you combined the two players you'd have a good cb

Then add that you have no gk, and no decent back ups incase of any injuries

[Fernando]

You can't argue with facts C&R it's concrete we came 2nd in the defensive table end of.

We sure as hell don't care if you rate our defense the fact we conceded 3 more goals then your beloved United over a season shows it's not as bad as people like yourself make out.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

david mcnally‏@davidmcnally62
Ok, we should have some news for you later this afternoon.

*Tent*

[Crimey]

So what do people think are the best deals done so far?

Premier League:

I actually think so far it's been Nicholas Anelka to West Brom, I know he was poor in China at Juventus but he's a proven Premier League forward who was doing fairly well at Chelsea. Think he's a very astute signing as long as his wages aren't too high. Having lost Lukaku they needed a good forward.

I also think the Martin Stekelenberg signing by Fulham is another very good signing.

Rest of the World:

For me it's Neymar to Barcelona, I know it's a lot of money, but they'll recoup a lot of it on shirt sales, having just been to Barcelona there were probably just as many people with Neymar shirts as Messi ones. Having actually properly watched him at the Confederations Cup it is clear there is more than just hype to Neymar, think him and Messi could compliment each other well and at just 21 years old there is room for him to get even better.

I think Monaco signing Moutinho, Falcao and Rodriguez were three very good signings to build a team around.

[NickisBHAFC]

Ipswich sign Dean Gerken from Bristol City - Whenever i have seen him play, he usually makes a big mistake. Good luck Ipswich fans

Brentford sign Martin Fillo from Viktoria Plzen - Uwe Rosler using his contacts, could go either way this signing.

Fleetwood sign Stephen Jordan from Dunfermline - Used to be a regular for a Man City Premiership side, wow.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Christ, Arsenal can scrape into fourth but still be as good as Man United? The things you learn on the Internet. 

I'd say Anelka is one of the worst signings of the window. Stek is a cracking one, Fulham have done everything right so far. Kone is a very good signing, Wanyama probably stands out.

[NickisBHAFC]

Yeah Wanyama has been the signing of the summer so far, but it all depends on money.

2011/12 signing of the season was Demba Ba.

2012/13 was Michu

Simply because they were both on free transfers and both were bluddy class!

[Guest]

Michu cost 2 million. Which was an absolute steal in hindsight.

[NickisBHAFC]

2 Million, forgot about that  

Tbf 2 million and he played like a 15-20 million striker IMO.

[Guest]

Yeah the boy done good. Be interesting to see how he fares this season.

[Holymiky]

I think Michu could play even better this season than he did last season (I think he was amazing last season) with Bony playing in front of him.

[Guest]

I think Michu could play even better this season than he did last season (I think he was amazing last season) with Bony playing in front of him.

I think the complete opposite will happen for two reasons. Firstly, it's his second season and now has a reputation, which will see him marked more heavily. Secondly, he played up front on his own mostly, now he has to incorporate playing alongside a striker who will take a majority of his chances away from him. I can't see Michu scoring or matching his goal tally last season......it's unfortunate but that's usually how things unfold.

[Holymiky]

I think Michu could play even better this season than he did last season (I think he was amazing last season) with Bony playing in front of him.

I think the complete opposite will happen for two reasons. Firstly, it's his second season and now has a reputation, which will see him marked more heavily. Secondly, he played up front on his own mostly, now he has to incorporate playing alongside a striker who will take a majority of his chances away from him. I can't see Michu scoring or matching his goal tally last season......it's unfortunate but that's usually how things unfold.

I can see what you are saying and i understand what you are saying but do you not think that it could also help Michu though?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I agree with Miky, I think hes not a natural lone forward but an attacking midfielder who wants to play in the hole. He may not score as many but I reckon the partnership will score more than Michu and any other combination from last season. Which means its worked. I think he'll exploit the space and offer a double threat now. May have a Sheringham like influence now.

[Holymiky]

I agree with Miky, I think hes not a natural lone forward but an attacking midfielder who wants to play in the hole. He may not score as many but I reckon the partnership will score more than Michu and any other combination from last season. Which means its worked. I think he'll exploit the space and offer a double threat now. May have a Sheringham like influence now.

I agree that he is more of an attacking midfielder and i'm not saying that he can't play up front because he proved that he can last season but i think perhaps he will play the number 10 role like you say playing in the hole behind the striker. One great thing i did notice amongst other things when watching Michu last season is that his movement is fantastic which comes onto the point that you made Chris about exploiting the space.

[Guest]

That's not really a surprise he's going to be a top defender, Ezequiel Garay to United seems to be picking up pace though.

Sigh

Vidic, Ferdinand, jones, Evans, smalling


We don't need another defender. I'm fed up with united sometimes. They constantly look to strengthen positions they don't need to

Here's a plan guys, considering how poor cleverly and Anderson are, why not look for a midfielder (a position we actually need)

[Guest]

All I was saying was that Michu will have a reputation now and everyone knows his game and will put plans in place. He won't score as many as last season, I'm pretty certain about that. The partnership though of him and Bony could be very good though but seeing as Bony will lead the line, that in turn will reduce Michu's goal tally and overall amount of chances.

Agree, United don't need a defender at all. Central midfield is crying out for a signing. Anderson is never fit and Cleverley is quite frankly woeful and if it wasn't for Ferguson he'd probably be on loan somewhere or even not in the game. How on earth he plays and starts for England is beyond me but that's the power of playing for a top 4 club has on a manager like Hodgson. Has Strootman gone to Roma then? If this deal does go through, should pave the way for De Rossi to go to Chelsea.

[Fernando]

That's not really a surprise he's going to be a top defender, Ezequiel Garay to United seems to be picking up pace though.

Sigh

Vidic, Ferdinand, jones, Evans, smalling


We don't need another defender. I'm fed up with united sometimes. They constantly look to strengthen positions they don't need to

Here's a plan guys, considering how poor cleverly and Anderson are, why not look for a midfielder (a position we actually need)

2 of the 5 are fairly old and Smalling is a better RB then CB so id expect it'll be Garay/Jones in the future   Apparently your looking at Modric/Cabaye again.

[Guest]

Don't think anything is confirmed yet but last week he was supposed to be set to sign for them

I can see United rekindling their interest in Modric. With Madrid having signed two midfielders this summer he might not get much playing time

[Guest]

That's not really a surprise he's going to be a top defender, Ezequiel Garay to United seems to be picking up pace though.

Sigh

Vidic, Ferdinand, jones, Evans, smalling


We don't need another defender. I'm fed up with united sometimes. They constantly look to strengthen positions they don't need to

Here's a plan guys, considering how poor cleverly and Anderson are, why not look for a midfielder (a position we actually need)

2 of the 5 are fairly old and Smalling is a better RB then CB so id expect it'll be Garay/Jones in the future   Apparently your looking at Modric/Cabaye again.

I get that with the age, but I still don't see that position as more of a priority than midfield

By all means I'm happy for them to strengthen there in future but feel that the priority should be midfield first

[Fernando]

That's not really a surprise he's going to be a top defender, Ezequiel Garay to United seems to be picking up pace though.

Sigh

Vidic, Ferdinand, jones, Evans, smalling


We don't need another defender. I'm fed up with united sometimes. They constantly look to strengthen positions they don't need to

Here's a plan guys, considering how poor cleverly and Anderson are, why not look for a midfielder (a position we actually need)

2 of the 5 are fairly old and Smalling is a better RB then CB so id expect it'll be Garay/Jones in the future   Apparently your looking at Modric/Cabaye again.

I get that with the age, but I still don't see that position as more of a priority than midfield

By all means I'm happy for them to strengthen there in future but feel that the priority should be midfield first

 tbf you would of signed Thiago until Bayern jumped in at last second, So i suspect it's back to the drawing board atm.

[Guest]

We would've signed thiago if we were a bit more cut throat in our dealings

I think united have this mindset that everybody wants to play for them (which I suppose they can be forgiven for thinking considering their size) but they don't seem to realise there are other clubs which are just as, or more attractive than us

Like I said earlier with Madrid signing two midfielders I expect Modric might leave and we might end up being his destination. I don't see us getting Fabregas, I think thiago will go Munich.

I reckon that'll leave Modric or Fellaini or both, I don't know about Cabaye - was there even interest from us there?

[Holymiky]

I did hear some speculation about Cabaye going to Manchester United but i think i have heard more rumours about Fellaini going to Manchester United to be fair.

[Guest]

I think the Modric deal would be dependent upon how strong Ancelotti's relationship with Kaka is still and whether or not Carlo thinks Kaka can re-ignite his past glory days. I don't think Madrid will need the funds, seeing as they will be selling Higuain, you would presume, so United are not going to get him cheap.

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-- - ILLARRAMENDI - - - - -KHEDIRA - - - - - -

with Kaka, Di Maria Modric, Xabi Alonso & Casemiro as reserve

Can't see United going in for Cabaye. Ashley will demand a huge fee for the 27 or 28 age year old. Also, if United do attempt to buy Yohan, that will only alert Monaco or PSG and then they would out-bid United and offer bigger wages. Fellaini is just a no-no for United.

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You'd figure you might as well get something for Alonso this year.

Kaka has to go on his wages. With the world cup in Brazil next year, like Maicon at City, he might be willing to cut his wages to play regular games to force his way in.

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Leroy Fer signs for Norwich. Will he follow Dem Baba in proving a failed medical wrong?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Norwich going L Fer leather at this window. Be interesting.

Big Sam quizzed on Kuzmanovic link after our game today, just smiled and said he couldnt talk about it but hes a player he likes a lot.

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QPR to send Taarabt on loan.

Odd decision considering he got them up singlehandedly last time. Would not say no.

[Guest]

Hasn't he been playing up a bit in pre season?

[Holymiky]

I read that Harry Redknapp sent Taarabt home mainly because apparently he was late for training perhaps there were more reasons but thats what i read.

[GSC]

Taarabts always been a pain in the bum. Warnock managed him well, surely 'Arry can given his status among the elite of the game.

[Guest]

Yeah I read something similar Miky. Taarabt would have had a field day in the Championship.

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Taarabt had a field day in the Championship. Took a fairly average QPR side to the title.

[Guest]

Redknapp seems to struggle with difficult personalities yet has a history of signing them!

What's happening with Remy down there? Any bids?

[GSC]

I heard Newcastle as always.

He actually had a fairly poor year for Marseille and QPR last year.

[Guest]

He can't leave this country I believe due to his bail conditions?

I thought he did okay at QPR during the run in but nothing spectacular.

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Tevez still has community service to serve.

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