2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread ......Continued

by **Kenny** Tue 2 Jul - 1:31

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by Dr Gregory House MD on Mon May 27, 2013 1:46 am
Now that the season has drawn to a close, I thought I'd put up a thread to discuss possible transfer business.

Rumours, Predictions, Hopes and Actualities all welcome here

by monty junior Sat 13 Jul - 1:53

Olly wrote:Norwich linked with Fabio Quigliarella of Juve (I dunno how to spell it).

Really is silly season

Excellent player , it could happen, Juve are looking to offload two of Matri, Quagliarella and Vucinic.

They just signed Angelo Ogbonna from rivals Torino for 15 million, to go with Tevez and Llorente so far this summer.

by The Special Juan Sat 13 Jul - 2:01

Olly wrote:According to "Sky Sources" Tom Ince has rejected Cardiff.

So Twitter?

by **Crimey** Sat 13 Jul - 2:12

BBC are reporting it as well. Said he wants to stay near to his newborn child, could be holding out for Liverpool to go in for him again? I can't see it happening though.

by Guest Sat 13 Jul - 2:14

Quagliarella is not excellent. He`s ageing now and he's never been a prolific goalscorer, hence why Juventus are offloading. Also he`ll just end up at some other Italian side because they rarely leave serie a, too homesick. Turin to Norwich....... laughing

Liverpool will not go back and pay over the odds for Ince, neither were Newcastle. Also, not a lot of people would have seen Illarramendi play but what a talent this kid is. Great signing for Madrid.

------------Suarez-----------

--Ronaldo---Isco----Ozil------

--illarramendi- Modric/Khedira-------

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 13 Jul - 2:15

He delayed a few days ago on his decision. He had traveled to Cardiff for talks and his Dad went with him. That for me is a sure sign he wasnt 100% on going, clearly wanting his Dad to come and advise him (a fairly good idea btw).

Fair play to him, hard decision id imagine but could be wise

by Kay Fabe Sat 13 Jul - 2:21

Nakatomi Plaza wrote:
Crimey wrote:I do worry if it's a bit of a sideways step for Wanyama though. He's got Premier League football, but now no European football, his career could definitely stall at Southampton, although I imagine he sees it as a stepping stone.

Fair point Crimey, but there are talking a big game at St Marys. The chairman's aiming for Champions League football. Not saying they'll get it, but they are signing players of the right age from Champions League clubs. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Saints in Europe within the next two years.

Victor Wanyama is going to be an absolute star in England, I've got no doubts what so ever, he's on 22, an absolute beast of a boy, gutted he's gone but there was no way we could turn down £12.5m + 15% sell on, he's the best player to come out of Scottish Football since Larsson left for Barca in 2004, he's got the lot but still has a lot to learn, he can still be quite rash, he was suspended for a crucial European Play-Off game against Helsingborg after a stupid red card, he also stupidly got suspended against Benfica and missed our winner take all game against Spartak in the final group game of rhe Champions League proper, he also missed the Scottish Cup final after getting another silly suspension. Thats his only real flaws though, he's fast, he can pass, shoot, strong in the tackle, great vision and has a full tank of energy for the duration of games.

I think Southampton is a brilliant move for him, injury barring he'll start upwards of 30 EPL games next season and Southampton are a club he can make mistakes at without as much scrutiny as he'd be under at a Liverpool, I predict Wanyama will be a £20m player within the next 2 years

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 13 Jul - 2:37

Fully agree

by monty junior Sat 13 Jul - 3:10

John wrote:Quagliarella is not excellent. He`s ageing now and he's never been a prolific goalscorer, hence why Juventus are offloading. Also he`ll just end up at some other Italian side because they rarely leave serie a, too homesick. Turin to Norwich.......

Excellent for Norwich and has played many times for Italy. It's no real insult to be deemed surplus to requirements at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Though i'm pretty sure he'll end up at Wolfsburg.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 13 Jul - 5:55

In West Ham news:

[b class="fullname js-action-profile-name show-popup-with-id" style="color: rgb(0, 132, 180); text-decoration: underline;"]Jack Sullivan[/b] ‏[ltr]@jsullivanwhu[/ltr]21m
ZAPATA’s work permit application is 2 weeks today. Hes an exceptional talent, hopefully the panel agree with us.

Tis funny how this is a young boy's account with disastrous spelling sometimes and then perfectly written another time Wink

by Fernando Sat 13 Jul - 6:03

He's got about as much chance of getting a permit as you do being wanked off by 10 of the hottest women in the world angel

Will go out on loan to a spanish side id expect.

by Bull Sat 13 Jul - 6:44

Burrrrrrrn

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 13 Jul - 6:50

Not really a burn as it isn't an insult, unless you really rate me that highly Bull! I don't expect it either, and I wouldn't be surprised if we left it alone once we don't get it

In other news, Fulham look set to be bought by jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan. Expect to see them spend

by Holymiky Sat 13 Jul - 7:19

Luke Shaw has signed a new 5 year deal with Southampton i read the news on Twitter a few minutes ago. Great stuff to keep hold of Shaw, such an exciting and extremely promising player in my opinion.

by NickisBHAFC Sat 13 Jul - 7:40

Luke Shaw is 100% a future England star. Has huge potential.

by Fernando Sat 13 Jul - 8:00

Fulham have completed the sale of the club to the NFL dude.

Cesc Fabregas rumors are rearing their ugly head pointlessly suggesting his off to United, Which is a load of **** even though he's going to stay at Barca.

by Guest Sat 13 Jul - 8:02

Signing a new deal for Shaw just guarantees Southampton a bigger fee this time next summer - club know they will lose him once`s fully established himself in the EPL and especially in his position.

by westisbest Sat 13 Jul - 8:03

Read that Given, Dunne and Ireland might well be going to Doncaster.

Although QPR showing interest in Dunne.

by **Kenny** Sat 13 Jul - 8:06

Crimey wrote:BBC are reporting it as well. Said he wants to stay near to his newborn child, could be holding out for Liverpool to go in for him again? I can't see it happening though.

Not sure about Ince , on one hand he had a very good season last term but on the other i wonder if that would be the same in the PL ?

Liverpool apparantly have a 50% sell on clause so wouldn't cost a great deal to resign , but then again if someone else pays £8million or over then getting £4+ million for nothing wouldn't be bad either .

by Guest Sat 13 Jul - 8:07

westisbest wrote:Read that Given, Dunne and Ireland might well be going to Doncaster.

Although QPR showing interest in Dunne.

Do Doncaster have money or something?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 13 Jul - 8:10

monty junior wrote:
John wrote:Quagliarella is not excellent. He`s ageing now and he's never been a prolific goalscorer, hence why Juventus are offloading. Also he`ll just end up at some other Italian side because they rarely leave serie a, too homesick. Turin to Norwich.......

Excellent for Norwich and has played many times for Italy. It's no real insult to be deemed surplus to requirements at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Though i'm pretty sure he'll end up at Wolfsburg.

I can't see it happening personally, but we are definately in the market for somebody to play in the hole behind the striker

by **Kenny** Sat 13 Jul - 8:11

FreekShow wrote:
westisbest wrote:Read that Given, Dunne and Ireland might well be going to Doncaster.

Although QPR showing interest in Dunne.

Do Doncaster have money or something?

They did a deal with Diouf and Chimbonda and a few others a while back were they were on some sort of pay as you play deals until another club came in for them , they basically played and were in the shop window as it were . This could be something similar ?

by NickisBHAFC Sat 13 Jul - 8:11

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/8820740/Transfer-news-Hull-Norwich-eye-Brighton-striker-Ashley-Barnes

Laugh

by Guest Sat 13 Jul - 8:18

Kenny wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
westisbest wrote:Read that Given, Dunne and Ireland might well be going to Doncaster.

Although QPR showing interest in Dunne.

Do Doncaster have money or something?

They did a deal with Diouf and Chimbonda and a few others a while back were they were on some sort of pay as you play deals until another club came in for them , they basically played and were in the shop window as it were . This could be something similar ?

Possibly Kenny.

Dunne and Given are great pro's.

I wouldn't touch Stephen Ireland with a bargepole mind.

by Fernando Sat 13 Jul - 8:22

I saw earlier on the news that someone has invested 20m into Donny so could be that.

Also i shall give you list of reasons why Cesc won't go to United as i mentioned earlier....
- £25m buy-out (Arsenal only)
- 1st option if another club bids
- 50% of any proceeds after first £25m

Take the hint media it's not happening

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 13 Jul - 8:25

NickisBHAFC wrote:http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/8820740/Transfer-news-Hull-Norwich-eye-Brighton-striker-Ashley-Barnes

Wouldn't be too adversed to that. Your top scorer in 2011/12, and scored a fair few last year despite being suspended for a fair whack of the season.

Sure he'd flourish here

by westisbest Sat 13 Jul - 8:48

FreekShow wrote:
Kenny wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
westisbest wrote:Read that Given, Dunne and Ireland might well be going to Doncaster.

Although QPR showing interest in Dunne.

Do Doncaster have money or something?

They did a deal with Diouf and Chimbonda and a few others a while back were they were on some sort of pay as you play deals until another club came in for them , they basically played and were in the shop window as it were . This could be something similar ?

Possibly Kenny.

Dunne and Given are great pro's.

I wouldn't touch Stephen Ireland with a bargepole mind.

An irish consortium are looking to invest in the club.

£20m in. to it.

Might have something to do with wanting our irish players.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 13 Jul - 8:51

Are there any definites on whether those clauses actually exist Nando?

I dont think its happening, but if he was moving then who knows. Is he going to go back to 4th place land if he cant play for Barca?

by GSC Sat 13 Jul - 8:53

The first option exists

by GSC Sat 13 Jul - 8:54

Also Cesc loves Wenger. If it comes down to him or Moyes it ain't a contest

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 13 Jul - 9:17

Again, I really dont think its happening, but surely the ambition for titles is still there? And possibly a feeling that going back to Arsenal is admitting he failed? I think people can overestimate this love and loyalty of professionals.

Personally I think he'd be dumb as hell to leave as he is sure to start there even more often soon.

by Guest Sat 13 Jul - 9:22

GSC wrote:Also Cesc loves Wenger. If it comes down to him or Moyes it ain't a contest

I dunno. Ambition was the reason he left Arsenal in the first place and if he's still ambitious he'll favour a move to Old Trafford over the Emirates.

Unless it was a money thing which once again gives Utd the advantage.

by Guest Sat 13 Jul - 9:23

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Again, I really dont think its happening, but surely the ambition for titles is still there? And possibly a feeling that going back to Arsenal is admitting he failed? I think people can overestimate this love and loyalty of professionals.

Personally I think he'd be dumb as hell to leave as he is sure to start there even more often soon.

Yeah it's complete bollox in this day and age.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 13 Jul - 9:31

In said fantasy land, if Arsenal actually bought someone then their intent may be shown enough to convince more targets.

I also read that as abortion was the reason he left Arsenal

by Guest Sat 13 Jul - 9:35

Arsenal are about 10 players away from being a title challenging side. Ah well they have a CL campaign to look forward to.

by GSC Sat 13 Jul - 17:25

That's also complete Love sacks

Wilshere, Cazorla and Monreal would all walk into Uniteds title winning side

by compelling and rich Sat 13 Jul - 20:23

A steady half of season and monreal is suddenly a world class left back. Pfft get back to me when he's performed consistently in the position for a while. Certainty wouldnt walk into our team over evra

Wilshere would get in the team if fit which is never so that just leaves carzola

by **Crimey** Sat 13 Jul - 20:27

I'd say Walcott had a better season than any United winger as well. I think Arteta is just as good as Carrick.

Rumours of Ibrahimovic leaving PSG rising again, Manchester City apparently prepared to make a bid, but also could be moving to Madrid to team up with Ancelotti again. Would love to see him move to Madrid; 1. I think it would be an excellent storyline considering his past with Barcelona and 2. it would stop them sniffing around Suarez.

by compelling and rich Sat 13 Jul - 20:35

Crimey wrote:I'd say Walcott had a better season than any United winger as well. I think Arteta is just as good as Carrick.

Rumours of Ibrahimovic leaving PSG rising again, Manchester City apparently prepared to make a bid, but also could be moving to Madrid to team up with Ancelotti again. Would love to see him move to Madrid; 1. I think it would be an excellent storyline considering his past with Barcelona and 2. it would stop them sniffing around Suarez.

I'd have walcott similar to young and nani. Can be a handfull on their day but are not consistent. Valencia has been the most consistent winger of the lot bar last season where he had a shocker. You asked the same question previous years and valencia would have been in over walcott easily.

Carrick was the best cm last season in most peoples eyes even over carzola, hasnt always played to that standard but would have him in over an ageing arteta. Think hes much better defensively than arteta

by **Crimey** Sat 13 Jul - 20:42

compelling and rich wrote:
Crimey wrote:I'd say Walcott had a better season than any United winger as well. I think Arteta is just as good as Carrick.

Rumours of Ibrahimovic leaving PSG rising again, Manchester City apparently prepared to make a bid, but also could be moving to Madrid to team up with Ancelotti again. Would love to see him move to Madrid; 1. I think it would be an excellent storyline considering his past with Barcelona and 2. it would stop them sniffing around Suarez.

I'd have walcott similar to young and nani. Can be a handfull on their day but are not consistent. Valencia has been the most consistent winger of the lot bar last season where he had a shocker. You asked the same question previous years and valencia would have been in over walcott easily.

Carrick was the best cm last season in most peoples eyes even over carzola, hasnt always played to that standard but would have him in over an ageing arteta. Think hes much better defensively than arteta

I think Walcott is a much better player than both Young and Nani, I'd have him on par with Valencia but last year I think Walcott was clearly the superior player. I won't go into the debate with Carrick and Arteta as I've had it before, but basically I haven't seen any evidence that Carrick is better defensively than Arteta or can read the game better as often asserted.

by GSC Sat 13 Jul - 20:48

Evra is pretty poop

by compelling and rich Sat 13 Jul - 20:50

Not arguing too much on the walcott point I agree on last season's form he's easily in over nani and young (I really dont rate either of them). Just not convinced hes better than valencia especially if he finds his previous form

Carrick and arteta are both teams deep playing midfielder, while we have a better defence I do think they are protected better, carrick being one of the key reasons. Its been common knowledge that everyone has been screaming out for to get a decent defensive mid. Artetas not that hes just a deep playmaker

by Fernando Sat 13 Jul - 20:52

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Are there any definites on whether those clauses actually exist Nando?

I dont think its happening, but if he was moving then who knows. Is he going to go back to 4th place land if he cant play for Barca?

All 3 of them clauses exist

Just think of it as common sense if Barca sell him for 30m they get 15m they would have to sell for 60m to make their money back.

The last bit is up to Cesc we have the money and are willing to do it, It's just what he wants to do

by Guest Sat 13 Jul - 20:58

- -- - - - - - - -RVP - - - - - - - - -

PODOLSKI - CAZORLA - - -WALCOTT

- - - - -CARRICK -WILSHERE - - - - -

MONREAL- FERDINAND - VIDIC - -RAFAEL

- - - - - - - DE GEA - - - - - - -

would that be the best eleven from both sides? RVP obvious choice, Podolski ahead of young, nani etc and walcott ahead of them all and valencia. cazorla is an exceptional player in behind and runs rooney close n kagawa. carrick n wilshere is the obvious midfield duo in my opinion. what separates united n arsenal is the back line n keeper. although i dont rate rafael, he's better than sagna and monreal just gets ahead of gibbs (injury prone) and past it evra. de gea self explanatory

by GSC Sat 13 Jul - 21:01

Toby Alderweireld has rejected a move to Norwich apparently

by GSC Sat 13 Jul - 21:03

Split 6-5 to United (and RVP was developed by Wenger too).

Somewhat telling

by compelling and rich Sat 13 Jul - 21:04

John not sure you can omit gibbs for being injury prone then put wilshere in. He's a player I really like but he never plays

Would also have rooney or kagawa over podolski. Not there strongest position in your formation but both better players than podolski

by Fernando Sat 13 Jul - 21:05

That's not really a surprise he's going to be a top defender, Ezequiel Garay to United seems to be picking up pace though.

by compelling and rich Sat 13 Jul - 21:06

GSC wrote:Split 6-5 to United (and RVP was developed by Wenger too).

Somewhat telling

Footballs a squad game and not just how a team looks on paper

The points gap between united and arsenal last season is the most telling point of who has the best team

by Fernando Sat 13 Jul - 21:07

Personally id go Arteta over Carrick they do the same thing really except when the sun tried to praise Carrick with stats Arteta was ahead in all of them

Why Arteta is better then Carrick although the sun tried to prove otherwise:

by compelling and rich Sat 13 Jul - 21:09

Fernando wrote:That's not really a surprise he's going to be a top defender, Ezequiel Garay to United seems to be picking up pace though.

Strange one this, even with vidics injuries and rios legs going we've still got evans, jones and smalling all very good cb. Would rather the money was spent else where

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