Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:57 pm

First topic message reminder :

Man City 3 Hull 0
Cardiff 1 Everton 2
Newcastle 1 Fulham 1
Norwich 1 S'oton 2
West Ham 1 Stoke 0
C Palace 1 Sunderland 2

Liverpool 1 man Utd 2
West Brom 1 Swansea 1
Arsenal 3 Spurs 2

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:38 am

It was a decent show by Liverpool. 7/10 perhaps. First half was fine, flashes of creativity on show. The second half was largely backs-to-the-wall against an inept United side, admittedly with good organisation by Liverpool.

Decent, but room to improve.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:39 am

When we win games at home 1-0 playing like that we talk about defensively solid but worrying about the attack.

And for a man of stats Crimey, they dont sit well with you on the "best performance" part either.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:39 am

Chris, if you'd been a Liverpool fan over the past few years and seen the team throw away a result like that time and time again you'd be pretty pleased. I thought defensively Liverpool looked totally rock solid, fair enough United didn't create as much as you'd expect but they certainly were knocking on the door and Liverpool didn't allow them in.

A 1-0 win over your biggest rivals is always going to be a great performance in my books, think it's unfair to blame the defeat all on United being poor, I think in some games what they did would have been enough.

I don't know why you're so annoyed that Liverpool fans are enjoying a 1-0 win over United, for god's sake.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:40 am

TalkSport are now doing a job on the Liverpool directors for not allowing Roy Hodsgon a seat in the directors box....when there were 13 seats empty there the whole match!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:41 am

Im not annoyed you're enjoying it, go have a drink and a smile. Im flabbergasted that you think it was a wonderful performance. It was a game very low on quality and you didnt play that well, for god's sake.

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:41 am

Important win for Swansea just to get their season started after 2 tough games.

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:42 am

Swansea (A)
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)
West Brom (H)

Those are the next 6 games for Liverpool in the PL. 14 points the target, perhaps? 4 wins and 2 draws.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:42 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Just for the Liverpool fans: You did score from a set piece and created nothing else.

The title isnt yours

Thought id get that in there before the wave of euphoria creeps into this thread
Yer cos set pieces are inferior goals

Bitter barsteward. 3/3 happy days
Claws away boy!

Im not a Man United fan, the bitterness is not there. Sturridge's goal was quality from him, wonderful and excited me to see him continue that form. But the game was poor, low on quality and stats show United were a little on top. Good start, but dont get carried away, that was my message!

Your the one with the claws out girl. 'Don't carried away...we only scored a off a set piece'

Proper bitchy hahaha

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:43 am

United played non-existent, woeful, appalling football. Liverpool played average but well organised football but nothing special. Excellent result but not performance.

United could do with the technical, creativity of a Herrera & the physical, box-to-box nature of Fellaini. Anything is better than Cleverley or Giggs. Let me guess Cleverley starts both England qualifiers picard

by Ent Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:43 am

It wasnt a lack of creativity, it was a lack of rudimentary football skills- no individual would have made a difference.

We couldn't pass it to each other, chose the wrong passes, didnt move for each other and had no tempo.

It was a disgrace.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:44 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Im not annoyed you're enjoying it, go have a drink and a smile. Im flabbergasted that you think it was a wonderful performance. It was a game very low on quality and you didnt play that well, for god's sake.

I honestly believe it was the best one this season, defensively against Stoke and Aston Villa I thought Liverpool were a little too flimsy, gave away too many chances and put themselves under pressure. Against Manchester United, they were disciplined and gave very little away, the defence was always on top of the attack.

1-0 wins are not something I'm particularly used to as a Liverpool fan, having seen us throw away so many games like this, I thought it was an excellent performance not in terms of quality or attacking flair but in terms of heart and the desire to win. I thought Liverpool wanted it a lot more than United today and were throwing themselves into every tackle, but didn't lose their discipline like United began to.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:44 am

Duty281 wrote:Swansea (A)
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)
West Brom (H)

Those are the next 6 games for Liverpool in the PL. 14 points the target, perhaps? 4 wins and 2 draws.

If only football was played on paper. One of them games will be a loss.

by Bull Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:44 am

Why are you getting so over-protective over a footy match?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:44 am

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Just for the Liverpool fans: You did score from a set piece and created nothing else.

The title isnt yours

Thought id get that in there before the wave of euphoria creeps into this thread
Yer cos set pieces are inferior goals

Bitter barsteward. 3/3 happy days
Claws away boy!

Im not a Man United fan, the bitterness is not there. Sturridge's goal was quality from him, wonderful and excited me to see him continue that form. But the game was poor, low on quality and stats show United were a little on top. Good start, but dont get carried away, that was my message!
Your the one with the claws out girl. 'Don't carried away...we only scored a off a set piece'

Proper bitchy hahaha

But mine was both realistic and tongue in cheek, whereas yours is genuinely annoyed madame! (Yeah, I can call you a girl too!) Whistle

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:44 am

Is it worrying that I'm more excited about the Spurs team than my own teams set up, think I've got a man crush on them.

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:45 am

FreekShow wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Swansea (A)
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)
West Brom (H)

Those are the next 6 games for Liverpool in the PL. 14 points the target, perhaps? 4 wins and 2 draws.
If only football was played on paper. One of them games will be a loss.

Now Freek, if you were as optimistic for your side as I am for England, you'd know you wouldn't lose a game in that lot.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:45 am

Duty281 wrote:Swansea (A)
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)
West Brom (H)

Those are the next 6 games for Liverpool in the PL. 14 points the target, perhaps? 4 wins and 2 draws.

The main two I'd be worried about there are the Swansea and Southampton games, neither of them have had great starts but both are really dangerous, so you might be right about the 14 points. Just hope get more than a goal a game to be honest, although if it continues, Sturridge is on 38 goals this year.

It would be typical Liverpool to beat United and then go lose to Crystal Palace at home though.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:46 am

Really fancy Arsenal to beat Spurs well today, gonna say 3-1. I'm not so high on Spurs like everyone seems to be

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:46 am

It wouldn't be losing to crystal palace- it would be palace beating them..

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:47 am

Hero wrote:Is it worrying that I'm more excited about the Spurs team than my own teams set up, think I've got a man crush on them.

Think they will be my secondary-FIFA team this year.

On paper they do look excellent, I just worry that the players aren't going to gel. At least for now they're scraping wins away while the players take time to settle.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:47 am

mystiroakey wrote:It wouldn't be losing to crystal palace- it would be palace beating them..

by Duty281 Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:48 am

Olly wrote:Really fancy Arsenal to beat Spurs well today, gonna say 3-1. I'm not so high on Spurs like everyone seems to be

I really fancy Spurs to announce their breakthrough with a crushing 1-4 win over Arsenal today.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:48 am

Olly wrote:Really fancy Arsenal to beat Spurs well today, gonna say 3-1. I'm not so high on Spurs like everyone seems to be

I agree that I can see Arsenal winning today, think people are getting carried away with Spurs at the moment who have a great team on paper with a lot of classy, exciting players. Top 4 should be the aim this year and then I think they can challenge after a year when all or at least most of their players have settled and they can reinforce further with Champions League football.

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:49 am

Never mind my man crush, my wife's just admitted to fancying AVB.

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:49 am

Crimey wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:It wouldn't be losing to crystal palace- it would be palace beating them..

Every time palace get a point the other snobby fans will blame themselves.. Just get over it . Palace are in the prem..face facts. WHat they get they will deserve- just like they deserved it yesterday.,

by GSC Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:50 am

BBC Sport ‏[ltr]@BBCSport[/ltr]33s
David Moyes: "From what I saw today, I'm more than happy with what I've got...I wouldn't be worried if I didn't add to the squad."

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:50 am

Duty281 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Swansea (A)
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)
West Brom (H)

Those are the next 6 games for Liverpool in the PL. 14 points the target, perhaps? 4 wins and 2 draws.
If only football was played on paper. One of them games will be a loss.
Now Freek, if you were as optimistic for your side as I am for England, you'd know you wouldn't lose a game in that lot.

I'm going to the England game Friday Duty. I'm gonna be you for a couple of hours!

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:51 am

mystiroakey wrote:
Crimey wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:It wouldn't be losing to crystal palace- it would be palace beating them..
Every time palace get a point the other snobby fans will blame themselves.. Just get over it . Palace are in the prem..face facts. WHat they get they will deserve- just like they deserved it yesterday.,

I know, but semantics come on. It wasn't made to be disrespectful to Palace, I was writing it from a Liverpool perspective, which would be to lose to Crystal Palace, if I was writing it from a Palace perspective it would be to beat Liverpool. You're making an argument over very little. I'm not bothered if Palace are in the Premier League or not, it isn't being snobby, Liverpool would be expected to beat Crystal Palace at Anfield.

by **Crimey** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:52 am

David Moyes wrote:From what I saw today, I'm more than happy with what I've got. It's the best we've played this season. I wouldn't be worried if I didn't add to the squad.

Best they've played all season? Manchester United fans can't be happy with that.

by Ent Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:53 am

GSC wrote:BBC Sport ‏
[ltr]@BBCSport[/ltr]
33s
David Moyes: "From what I saw today, I'm more than happy with what I've got...I wouldn't be worried if I didn't add to the squad."

Moyes must be high, on today's performance we need an entire new squad - they were all terrible.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:54 am

Promoted sides DO tend to do well against Liverpool.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:56 am

Hero wrote:Is it worrying that I'm more excited about the Spurs team than my own teams set up, think I've got a man crush on them.

Considering you're a man responsible for young children, I find this extremely worrying. They are Spurs you know?

by Ent Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:56 am

Crimey wrote:
David Moyes wrote:From what I saw today, I'm more than happy with what I've got. It's the best we've played this season. I wouldn't be worried if I didn't add to the squad.
Best they've played all season? Manchester United fans can't be happy with that.

It was the worst performance for years, there aren't words to describe how terrible we were.

I'm getting worried about moyes if he genuinely thinks what he is saying.

by TheCultOfPersonality Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:57 am

Tends to be a lot of goals in this fixture but the trend from the weekends fixtures say this should be a clean sheet. 1-0 Arsenal.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:04 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Just for the Liverpool fans: You did score from a set piece and created nothing else.

The title isnt yours

Thought id get that in there before the wave of euphoria creeps into this thread
Yer cos set pieces are inferior goals

Bitter barsteward. 3/3 happy days
Claws away boy!

Im not a Man United fan, the bitterness is not there. Sturridge's goal was quality from him, wonderful and excited me to see him continue that form. But the game was poor, low on quality and stats show United were a little on top. Good start, but dont get carried away, that was my message!
Your the one with the claws out girl. 'Don't carried away...we only scored a off a set piece'

Proper bitchy hahaha
But mine was both realistic and tongue in cheek, whereas yours is genuinely annoyed madame! (Yeah, I can call you a girl too!)

Yer am annoyed at beating manure! Very annoyed

by NickisBHAFC Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:04 am

What a save by Lloris from that freekick!

I would say he is the best keeper in the league.

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:06 am

Ent wrote:
Crimey wrote:
David Moyes wrote:From what I saw today, I'm more than happy with what I've got. It's the best we've played this season. I wouldn't be worried if I didn't add to the squad.
Best they've played all season? Manchester United fans can't be happy with that.
It was the worst performance for years, there aren't words to describe how terrible we were.

I'm getting worried about moyes if he genuinely thinks what he is saying.

He's also said it was a straight choice between Nani and Kagawa for a place on the bench.
That shouldn't even be a choice.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:07 am

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Just for the Liverpool fans: You did score from a set piece and created nothing else.

The title isnt yours

Thought id get that in there before the wave of euphoria creeps into this thread
Yer cos set pieces are inferior goals

Bitter barsteward. 3/3 happy days
Claws away boy!

Im not a Man United fan, the bitterness is not there. Sturridge's goal was quality from him, wonderful and excited me to see him continue that form. But the game was poor, low on quality and stats show United were a little on top. Good start, but dont get carried away, that was my message!
Your the one with the claws out girl. 'Don't carried away...we only scored a off a set piece'

Proper bitchy hahaha
But mine was both realistic and tongue in cheek, whereas yours is genuinely annoyed madame! (Yeah, I can call you a girl too!)
Yer am annoyed at beating manure! Very annoyed

Lets leave it be eh

by The Special Juan Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:09 am

Liverpool were definitely the deserved winners of a match that had 0 clear-cut chances and was played pretty much in midfield for the whole game. They were superb for the first half hour and Utd could barely cope with them, I'm surprised they weren't 2 up by half-time. Then Utd dominated the second half without actually doing anything, I think they showed a real lack of creativity in midfield. They definitely missed Rooney or Kagawa to give that spark which could break down the Liverpool defence. It's one thing not breaking down an incredibly negative Chelsea team, it's another with Liverpool who aren't renowned as being as good defensively (Agger and Skrtel played well though). Johnson was immense at RB today along with Vidic at CB. I never realised what a complete tank Johnson is, it was like he entered "Yaya Toure mode" or something. The only thing I can complain about Utd was that Moyes might have got his tactics wrong. The wingers just kept trying to hoof the ball into the box for van Persie to deal with. RVP's not great in the air and Agger and Skrtel are going to deal with those high balls all day long, but then again seeing as Utd were missing the creative players I suppose that's all they could do.

I do want to moan at the referee though. It seemed the Utd players were getting booked for every little thing whereas Liverpool's players were getting away with a lot. Anyway, that's all I have to say. Well done Liverpool clap

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:11 am

Crimey wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
Crimey wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:It wouldn't be losing to crystal palace- it would be palace beating them..
Every time palace get a point the other snobby fans will blame themselves.. Just get over it . Palace are in the prem..face facts. WHat they get they will deserve- just like they deserved it yesterday.,
I know, but semantics come on. It wasn't made to be disrespectful to Palace, I was writing it from a Liverpool perspective, which would be to lose to Crystal Palace, if I was writing it from a Palace perspective it would be to beat Liverpool. You're making an argument over very little. I'm not bothered if Palace are in the Premier League or not, it isn't being snobby, Liverpool would be expected to beat Crystal Palace at Anfield.

No problem I understand. probably getting sensitive in fairness. I have heard the palace 'banker' so often recently. Just erm. Well you know.. It will off course make any victory all the sweeter Smile

by NickisBHAFC Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:14 am

Gibbs and Jenkinson can't handle the wingers they are marking.

by **Hero** Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:15 am

I think the old Palace chairman was quite the banker.

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:20 am

Hero wrote:I think the old Palace chairman was quite the banker.

Yeah never was a fan of Ron Noades Wink

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:23 am

Well the one thing he did do was con Noades into getting the ground back. That was decent business. However everything else he did was to a detriment. The new 4 we have seem very realistic tbh.. We are away from flashy businessmen like noades and jordan thank gawd!

by NickisBHAFC Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:23 am

Poor poor defending by Tottenham. All Micheal Dawson fault.

Undeserved goal.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:26 am

The futures bright; the Chairmans orange - it was worth it all for that line (was it a name of a fanzine too?)

Wonderful finish from Giroud. All at sea in defence, Dawson lets his man go but three men let Walcott drift too

by Guest Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:31 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:The futures bright; the Chairmans orange - it was worth it all for that line (was it a name of a fanzine too?)

Wonderful finish from Giroud. All at sea in defence, Dawson lets his man go but three men let Walcott drift too

They've had some characters running that club.

Remember Mark Goldberg and his dream?

by NickisBHAFC Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:33 am

What a tackle from Lloris.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:33 am

Fine lines, he so nearly missed the ball

by mystiroakey Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:43 am

Wilshire off Sad

when is this lad going to get a break..

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