Saracens Rugby Football Club

by **Ozzy3213** Fri 13 May 2011, 4:26 pm

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SARACENS RUGBY FOOTBALL CLUB

Full name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Nickname: Sarries
Founded: 1876
Location: St. Albans, England
Ground: Vicarage Road, Watford (Capacity: 19,920)
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: John Smit
Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Heineken Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.
2011–12: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Runners Up
2010–11: Aviva Premiership Runners Up, Heineken Cup Semi Finals
2009-10: Guinness Premiership Champions, Heineken Cup Quarter Finals
2008-09 Guinness Premiership Runners Up

COACHING STAFF

Head coach: Ozzy3213

Forwards coach: Jono Gibbes
Scrum coach: Naka Drotske
Defence coach: John Mitchell
Attack coach: Wayne Smith

Academy Manager: Rassie Erasmus
Assistant Manager: Thinus Delport

Senior Squad (40/40)

Nat	Pos	Name	dob	Height	Weight	Caps	Between	Points	Tries	Cons	Pens	DG
	HK	John Smit	03/04/1978	6ft 2ins	19st	111	2000-2011	40	8	-	-	-
	HK	Bismarck du Plessis	22/05/1984	6ft 2ins	17st 12lbs	45	2007-	30	6	-	-	-
	HK	George Chuter	09/07/1976	5ft 11ins	15st 6lbs	24	2006-2010	5	1	-	-	-



	PR	Alex Corbisiero	30/08/1988	6ft 1in	18st 12lbs	16	2011-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Matt Mullan	23/02/1987	6ft	17st 9lbs	1	2010-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Max Lahiff	09/12/1989	6ft 1in	18st 3lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-

	PR	Adam Jones	08/03/1981	6ft	20st	85	2003-	10	2	-	-	-
	PR	Jannie du Plessis	16/11/1982	6ft 2ins	19st 1lb	33	2007-	5	1	-	-	-
	PR	Dave Wilson	09/04/1985	6ft 2ins	19st 3lbs	19	2009-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Phil Swainston	12/12/1989	6ft	17st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	LK	Lionel Nallet	14/09/1976	6ft 5ins	18st 2lbs	74	2000-2012	45	9	-	-	-
	LK	Steve Borthwick	12/10/1979	6ft 6ins	17st 11lbs	57	2001-2010	10	2	-	-	-
	LK	Rob Simmons	19/04/1989	6ft 7ins	18st 2lbs	20	2010-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	George Skivington	03/12/1982	6ft 6ins	18st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Rynhardt Elstadt	20/12/1989	6ft 6ins	18st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	FL	George Smith	14/07/1980	5ft 11ins	16st 3 lbs	110	2000-2009	45	9	-	-	-
	FL	Alessandro Zanni	31/01/1984	6ft 3ins	16st 8lbs	65	2005-	10	2	-	-	-
	FL	Thierry Dusautoir	18/11/1981	6ft 2ins	15st 10lbs	54	2006-	30	6	-	-	-
	FL	Ross Rennie	29/03/1986	6ft 1in	16st	19	2008-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Ofisa Treviranus	31/03/1984	6ft 2in	17st	19	2009-	5	1	-	-	-
	FL	Tom Johnson	16/07/1982	6ft 2ins	16st 3lbs	3	2012-	-	-	-	-	-

	N8	Joe van Niekerk	14/05/1980	6ft 4ins	17st	52	2001-2010	50	10	-	-	-
	N8	Duane Vermeulen	03/07/1986	6ft 4ins	18st 4lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-





	SH	Morgan Parra	15/11/1988	5ft 11ins	12st 2lbs	42	2008-	274	2	36	63	1
	SH	Francois Hougaard	06/04/1988	5ft 10ins	14st 2lbs	18	2009-	20	4	-	-	-
	SH	Paul Hodgson	25/04/1982	5ft 8ins	12st 6lbs	9	2008-	-	-	-	-	-
	SH	Dewaldt Duvenage	22/05/1988	5ft 8ins	12st 4lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	FH	Francois Trinh-Duc	11/11/1986	6ft	13st 5lbs	41	2008-	70	9	2	1	6
	FH	Ian Humphreys	24/04/1982	5ft 11ins	13st 1lb	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	CE	Ma'a Nonu	21/05/1982	6ft	16st 10lbs	66	2003-	110	22	-	-	-
	CE	Jonathan Davies	05/04/1988	6ft 1in	16st 3lbs	29	2009-	40	8	-	-	-
	CE	Tom Casson	06/04/1990	6ft	14st 2lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	CE	Henry Trinder	14/04/1989	6ft	13st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-
	CE	Nevin Spence	26/04/1990	6ft	14st 13lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-



	WG	Bryan Habana	12/06/1983	5ft 11ins	14st 11lbs	77	2004-	200	40	-	-	-
	WG	Mark Cueto	26/12/1979	6ft	15st	56	2001-2011	100	20	-	-	-
	WG	Andrew Trimble	20/10/1984	6ft 2ins	15st 6lbs	48	2005-	55	11	-	-	-
	WG	Digby Ioane	14/07/1985	5ft 10ins	14st 9lbs	25	2007-	45	9	-	-	-
	WG	Luke Fitzgerald	13/09/1987	6ft 1in	14st 7lbs	24	2006-	10	2	-	-	-



	FB	Tom Homer	01/04/1990	5ft 10ins	14st 5lbs	0	-	-	-	-	-	-

Senior Academy (19/20)

Nat	Pos	Name	dob	Height	Weight	Caps	Between	Points	Tries	Cons	Pens	DG
	HK	Christopher Tolofua	31/12/1993	6ft	18st 8lbs	1	2012-	-	-	-	-	-
	HK	Tom Cowan-Dickie	26/05/1991	6ft	16st 5lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Steven Kitshoff	10/02/1992	6ft	18st 12lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	PR	Frans Malherbe	14/03/1991	6ft 2ins	18st 12lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Paul Willemse	13/11/1992	6ft 7ins	20st	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Addison Lockley	25/10/1991	6ft 6ins	16st 7lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	LK	Ruan Botha	10/01/1992	6ft 8ins	17st 11lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Siya Kolisi	16/06/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FL	Luke Wallace	02/10/1990	6ft 1in	14st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	N8	Alex Gray	01/05/1991	6ft 5ins	16st 7lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-



	SH	Eric Escande	18/11/1992	5ft 9ins	12st 4lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	SH	James Lightfoot-Brown	21/06/1993	5ft 8ins	11st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FH	Owen Farrell	24/09/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 1lb	8	2012-	81	-	6	23	-
	FH	Patric Lambie	17/10/1990	5ft 10ins	14st 6lbs	13	2011-	6	-	3	-	-
	CE	Pat Howard	21/03/1991	6ft 2ins	15st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	WG	Milford Keresoma	01/02/1992	5ft 10ins	14st 13lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	WG	Oliver Cicognini	TBC	TBC	TBC	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FB	Jaco Taute	21/03/1991	6ft 3ins	15st 11lbs	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	FB	Jack Nowell	11/04/1993	5ft 11ins	14st	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Protected Academy

Scott Spurling
Max Crumpton
Nick Auterac
Tom Jubb
Maro Itoje
Matt Hankin
Sam James
James Thacker

Thomas Chapman
Nathan Earle
Charlie Kingsman
Nick Tompkins
Josh Sharp

Playing record under current head coach

Premiership
Home: P 47 W 42 D 3 L 2
Away: P 43 W 18 D 10 L 15
Neutral: P 4 W 1 D 0 L 3
Total: P 94 W 61 D 13 L 20 PF 2142 PA 1803 TF 236 TA 154

Heineken Cup
Home: P 12 W 12 D 0 L 0
Away: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2
Neutral: P 1 W 0 D 0 L 1
Total: P 24 W 20 D 1 L 3

Anglo Welsh Cup
Home: P 6 W 4 D 0 L 2
Away: P 7 W 2 D 0 L 5
Total: P 13 W 6 D 0 L 7

Total Playing Record
Home: P 65 W 58 D 3 L 4
Away: P 61 W 28 D 11 L 22
Neutral: P 5 W 1 D 0 L 4

Total: P 131 W 87 D 14 L 30

Budget: £12 million

(all stats correct as of 14/08/2012)

by Driver Sun 29 May 2011, 12:41 pm

I'd do that deal

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 12:53 pm

He's pretty key to future plans but everyone has their price Pete.

Wigglesworth + Mermoz

Parra + 36

Was just googling Matfield there after seeing Driver was letting him go and found this:

http://www.espnscrum.com/trinations2010/rugby/story/121985.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

"I think the World Cup will be the last of me, I'll play no more than that"

Shocked

by Steven_Sharks Sun 29 May 2011, 1:01 pm

completely forgot about the offer

I will only be interested in a straight swap for the two. not going too add cash

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 1:02 pm

If he carries on with that I don't think you'll get a game out of him! Doubt Driver knew, he's just bought him himself.

You mean Mermoz yea lol.....I just don't think anybody else would massivley improve me if you know what I mean. The players you have available is where I'm pretty strong at.

Off out for a run anyway beofre the match, stick a few offers on my page if you get bored thumbsup

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 2:23 pm

What top players have got available for Mermoz?

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 5:11 pm

Not got any real targets, I'll prob see who Chris bids for and counter bid him lol

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 6:13 pm

You not lett Parra go now? Lol...I'd also be interested in Hougaard.

by 'Arry Sun 29 May 2011, 6:16 pm

Alright mate, out of the players you have offered me only Mike Brown interests me.

I'd do Twelvetrees, Brown and Kitchener for Fourie.

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 6:20 pm

Lol..cheeky.

by 'Arry Sun 29 May 2011, 6:24 pm

Don't you point and laugh at me! 8)

Well if I'm going to lose Fourie it has to be in a deal that benefits me. I like Brown, Kitchener, Botha, Twelvetrees and Narraway. If there is any deal you can see possible let me know!

by stnick88 Sun 29 May 2011, 6:32 pm

what for Cueto?

by dammit_chris Sun 29 May 2011, 6:55 pm

Think you might be losing Narroway to the World Cup mate - he has to be the best option behind Easter

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 7:50 pm

Can't see it myself...I'd def take Waldroum.

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 8:00 pm

Maybe mate. It's not just because I don't like him as a player it's the fact he only covers 8 that will be his down fall. Might as well just take Haskell who's arguably better at 8 and covers 6/7.

That's my call on it anyway, I'd wager Narraway won't be picked...which will be good for you no?

by stnick88 Sun 29 May 2011, 8:01 pm

we'll struggle as i only like wood and dusatoir from your back row.
armitage and tagicakibau
for
dusatoir and cueto

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2011, 8:10 pm

Not to the required level we'd need for England. We'll agree to disagree on him, I think we've had this discussion on Narraway before.

by stnick88 Sun 29 May 2011, 8:11 pm

think we'll struggle mate
i rate steffon and playing in a back row with lobbe and JVN will only improve him.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 30 May 2011, 3:40 pm

sorry mate no fan of rodney at all

by Guest Mon 30 May 2011, 3:42 pm

How much cash for 36

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 30 May 2011, 3:46 pm

36 Pete?

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 30 May 2011, 3:52 pm

Sorry mate not keen on letting him go. Todd is coming in as cover for Quedragao for the time being. The balance of my back row has been a massive strenght this year so not keen at all to break it up sorry...

On another note how much cash for 36?

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 30 May 2011, 3:54 pm

Woods + 6m or Gray + cash?

by LukeLovesLuka Mon 30 May 2011, 4:49 pm

£15m
36

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 30 May 2011, 4:53 pm

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 30 May 2011, 4:54 pm

20m for 36...

by LukeLovesLuka Mon 30 May 2011, 5:06 pm

£24m...

by dammit_chris Mon 30 May 2011, 5:24 pm

I'd be interested in Twelvetrees, what would you want for him?

by CJB Mon 30 May 2011, 5:51 pm

Trying to get a 7 to fit alongside SOB + Lobbe?

by dammit_chris Mon 30 May 2011, 7:05 pm

What would I need to add to get Mullan from you too?

by CJB Mon 30 May 2011, 7:07 pm

Not really interested in em?

Best/Mears + Beattie 4 BDP + ????

by 'Arry Mon 30 May 2011, 7:15 pm

Alright Pete, you got any decent players available?

by dammit_chris Mon 30 May 2011, 7:24 pm

Trouble I have is that Kankowski is a proven international, would fit very ewll into your backrow and 36 isnt even starting for Tigers - I would definitely need something extra, or would do a straigh swap for Mullan?

by 'Arry Mon 30 May 2011, 7:26 pm

Out of those players Mathie and Twelvetrees interest me mate.

by CJB Mon 30 May 2011, 7:42 pm

Mullan and ranger interest me

by LukeLovesLuka Mon 30 May 2011, 8:07 pm

Wouldn't do the straight swap mate, Crane way ahead at this time. Would need a significant gain elsewhere.

by dammit_chris Mon 30 May 2011, 8:25 pm

Would you throw in either Smith or Holah into the Kankowski deal and I would do it with 36 included.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 30 May 2011, 8:40 pm

8m for Holah?

by LukeLovesLuka Mon 30 May 2011, 9:05 pm

I'll just stick with my cash offer for now then.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 30 May 2011, 9:09 pm

No probs fella

by 'Arry Mon 30 May 2011, 9:35 pm

Haskell is nfs mate.

by Driver Mon 30 May 2011, 9:35 pm

LDCPete wrote:Marty Holah for George Smith?

I'll deal on that

by Driver Mon 30 May 2011, 9:52 pm

What do you make of my team so far pete? And whats Danahar like in the line out?

by 'Arry Tue 31 May 2011, 9:11 pm

Not going anywhere mate, think he could do quite well at Saints.

by LukeLovesLuka Tue 31 May 2011, 9:25 pm

What's the answer to the cash auction? Placed the highest bid

by 'Arry Wed 01 Jun 2011, 10:17 am

Pete woud you accept cash for Mike Brown, Twelvetrees and Scott Mathie?

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 01 Jun 2011, 11:02 am

Mermoz + 15m

Jones + 36

Enq

by 'Arry Wed 01 Jun 2011, 11:30 am

I'll give you £20m for Mathie & Brown

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 01 Jun 2011, 12:17 pm

Could maybe include Mitchell....Wales 2nd best TH Wink

by 'Arry Wed 01 Jun 2011, 1:13 pm

Fair enough mate. £5m for Mathie?

by LukeLovesLuka Wed 01 Jun 2011, 2:07 pm

I'd go to £10m for Mathie.

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