Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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Swansea 3-2 Stoke

What has happened to Stoke's defence

[Ent]

Unfortunately that has been a problem for a long time.

Fergie got his hands burnt once too often, with berbatov being the final straw for premium ready for first team football players. So instead we spend 10s of millions on youngsters.

In the last few years we've spent almost £100 million on the likes of

Jones, smalling, young, bebe, kagawa, obertan, zaha and nick Powell.

Now I like some of these players but none of them are nailed on first 11 players.

Would we be a better side with for arguments sake; javi Martinez, modric and one of jones/smalling?

Ok we've done well with some cheaper players e.g. Hernandez but we seem to have spent a lot since we sold Ronaldo without ever really improving the first 11 (rvp aside).

[mystiroakey]

Chelsea still wants rooney.

I know its the last player you want to lose- but you still have RVP(who might even play better if he is the undisputed no.1) welbeck and junazai.

How about a swap for mata, who Mourinhio seems to hate .

Mata is the sort of player you need

[westisbest]

Some good games this week end.

Hope tomorrow's will be just as good.

And a Villa win.

[Ent]

Mata isn't needed with our current system, the same way kagawa can't get a game and we weren't interested in ozil.

Would just strengthen Chelsea far too much, giving them our best player to put in their main weak area.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

But he deserves his England spot...

Meh he earnt it, took his opportunity.

WHEN?! Even now you slate him, you still think hes earned a place for England? Baffling.

Personally, I think United fans can take that as two points lost but a place that could cause teams problems (and did for City) it is not the worst result in the context of this season and its hard fought nature. Didnt think Hernandez or Valencia did enough today, think Fellaini will take time to adapt to the new environment and team and, as much as ive defended Cleverley in the past, another really bad day for him. Evra switched off badly for the goal.

[Guest]

I do feel that folk put too much emphasis on systems. If a top player is available you go for him, surely?

Mata would do a sterling job for Utd. Quality footballer.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

United need to evolve. They need to be rid of Valencia as a regular option, Young needs to go, big money needs to be spent on the midfield, they need to decide whether they think Jones is a centre back, but probably should be looking to buy at least one centre back. Evra is on the way out too. But you don't usually see all that happen at once, not to a positive outcome.

[Ent]

Good Olympics and friendly performances, hodgson trusts and knows him as a squad player. Right or wrong that's how it is in the England managers eyes.

Hernandez as much as I love him is a hindrance unless we are on top in a game, like having 10 men if we aren't.

Valencia was never great but he is a shadow of his best form and is a liability defensively - what's the point.

Lacking quality all over the pitch unforunately.

[Ent]

I do feel that folk put too much emphasis on systems. If a top player is available you go for him, surely?

Mata would do a sterling job for Utd. Quality footballer.

You've got to play players in their position though, what's the point in having them otherwise?

Where would we play mata?

[Guest]

I do feel that folk put too much emphasis on systems. If a top player is available you go for him, surely?

Mata would do a sterling job for Utd. Quality footballer.

You've got to play players in their position though, what's the point in having them otherwise?

Where would we play mata?

He's quite capable of playing out wide and has done for Chelsea with effect in the past.

[Ent]

I'm not so sure he is in the way we play 442, plus we would have to have swapped Rooney for him.

Kagawa can't really get a game who is a similar but inferior player. I don't get spending big on someone who you are going to hamstring by your system or their position.

[socal1976]

What a completely unfair point, as usual United riding the coattails of the officials to a favorable decision. Rooney should have been red carded in the first ten minutes. He kicked and punched at a player and made contact off the ball and then dove on top of the fallen body of his opponent and all that earned Rooney was a yellow card. The only thing he didn't do was take his willy out and bugger the  poor sod.  And then the disgraceful fat body scored and assisted both United goals when United should have been playing with ten men for about 80 minutes. Rooney is human feces shaped like a man, just shows that you can give a garbage of a human being money but you can't buy him brains or class. Can Shawcross just break his legs so we don't have to look at his sorry hairplug infested arsse anymore?

There was a thread on people hating United and I want to change my answer to a simple YES! This along with the famous two offside goals against Chelsea last year shows the simple fact that the officials have won United more points than Rooney, Cantona, Giggs, Keane and Charlton combined.

[Guest]

The only thing he didn't do was take his willy out and bugger the  poor sod.  

  

[mystiroakey]

Don't be so insane SoCal.

He made one mistake, lashing out,which he rarely does this days.. Not saying he wasn't wrong but many sportsmen do it when the red mist comes..

Just because he got lucky and not getting carded he shouldn't just not play well.

[socal1976]

Don't be so insane SoCal.

He made one mistake, lashing out,which he rarely does this days.. Not saying he wasn't wrong but many sportsmen do it when the red mist comes..

Just because he got lucky and not getting carded he shouldn't just not play well.

I guarantee you if that was a cardiff player do the same thing to Rooney he would have been off faster than you can twirl your head. Rooney is the kind of dirt ball that would be in prison if he couldn't kick a round ball around. Every single time he gets called for a foul he curses at the officials and acts like a petulant thug, which is exactly what he is. I am so glad that last year United god jobbed out of the champions league by a terrible official in the Madrid match, because that is the only time I ever remember them coming up on the wrong side of an officials decision, apparently no United player ever does anything to get red carded and oh by the way Javi Hernandez is invisible to premier league linesmen.

[Ent]

Bitter much?

Decisions go for and against every team, they just get noticed more for high profile teams and no one cares when one goes against them.

[mystiroakey]

SoCal mate I don't want to get into this so I wont. But I wholeheartedly disagree. Any person that can reach that level of skill could in other fields and succeed.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I actually dont think it was much of a red. It wasnt really a kick, it was more petulant than rough. Not worse than a yellow. Whereas Cardiff wouldnt have equalised if Medel had been sent off, as he should have been.

[socal1976]

Bitter much?

Decisions go for and against every team, they just get noticed more for high profile teams and no one cares when one goes against them.

Off the top of my head I only remember the Madrid Champion's league decision that went against United and in the interests of balance I mentioned. Rooney is despicable but talented player. He not only did one act that is red card worthy he did three on the same play. Then maniac has the audacity to yell at the official while laying on top of his victim and asking that foul be called the other way. No wonder both Moyes and Sir Alex dissed this guy, great talent too bad he has pea-sized brain and zero class. I am so sick of his constant yelling and cursing at the officials after they cut this guy another break and allow him to stay on the field when he committed multiple redcard worthy offenses on the same play. One of the most undeserved points in history.

[socal1976]

I actually dont think it was much of a red. It wasnt really a kick, it was more petulant than rough. Not worse than a yellow. Whereas Cardiff wouldnt have equalised if Medel had been sent off, as he should have been.

Are you equating a red card in the 90th minute as equivalent to United's best player, who by the way scored and assisted both goals, getting sent off in the 10th minute. Cardiff wouldn't need an equalizer if this woeful United performance had not been further accentuated by the man of the match getting sent of in first quarter of an hour.

[Fernando]

If you kick out at someone off the ball it's a red card. Rooney was stupid to do it and could of cost his side badly like when England played Montenegro.

That being said Medel should of been off as well but it doesn't add up to the fact that Rooney should of scored seconds after it was 2-2.

[mystiroakey]

Feicking hell SoCal. I tell you what you want to watch the privately educated well spoken toffs play rugby mate.. 

High level sport gets so intense.

[NickisBHAFC]

Rooney should of 100% been sent off. Stuff what he did is just stupid and really doesn't belong in this game. That said he was superb today, but should of stole the 3 points at the end for United.

[socal1976]

SoCal mate I don't want to get into this so I wont. But I wholeheartedly disagree. Any person that can reach that level of skill could in other fields and succeed.

Well we can't agree on everything, don't get me wrong I have always rated him as an exceptional/world class player. At his best I think he was one of the 5 best players in the world, although he is not playing at that level now. He is invaluable to England and ManU, too bad he has a pea brain and exemplifies every bad attitude on the pitch that we teach kids never to emulate. How many F-offs is he going to hurl at officials, he should get yellow carded pretty much every time he commits a foul, because in his deranged pool hall thug worldview Wayne Rooney is the only player who has never been rightly called for a foul, or at least that is how Rooney acts whenever he gets whistled for a foul.

[mystiroakey]

The majority of players swear. It's intense . Rooney is no thug out of the game. Many are on the pitch

[socal1976]

Feicking hell SoCal. I tell you what you want to watch the privately educated well spoken toffs play rugby mate.. 

High level sport gets so intense.

I am used to tennis myself and have been spoiled by the fact the sport of tennis currently has no Aholes that can compare to this Rooney fellow. Rugby is Rugby and if Rooney wants to maybe he should play Rugby, because his conduct not appropriate for football.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Its swings and roundabouts though, you cant lament one decision and then ignore and even more blatant one. Who is showing unfair intent towards one side now? I will happily compare them as they are singular decisions. You cant predict what happens next can you, really. United may have gone into their shell, come out to hold a tight game, nicked it with Welbeck and Hernandez up the field and taken a hard fought 1-0.

Personally, I agree with Malky Mackay. I think it was a flick out rather than an awful kick and I praise the referee for not falling into this trap that everything that happens in football has to be sensationalised. I could see why you'd give it, but its so much of a nothing really. He saw it, he punished it in a way he thought necessary.

I think theres more going on here that is unnecessary Manchester United sentiment than any ref favouring them.

[mystiroakey]

I grew up watching McEnroe In tennis and my main sport is golf.

all I can say is that McEnroe is a legend but was as bad as many footballers today. And I hate the fact you are singling this one player out.

[socal1976]

I grew up watching McEnroe In tennis and my main sport is golf.

all I can say is that McEnroe is a legend but was as bad as many footballers today. And I hate the fact you are singling this one player out.

Hence why I said "currently", my favorite player growing up was Connors maybe I have become more refined while approaching my 40th. I am singling him out because he is a serial offender and he got away with a terrible non-call that most likely cost Cardiff two points. What if they get sent down by a point because this buffoon went unpunished? They were robbed of a famous victory.

[socal1976]

Its swings and roundabouts though, you cant lament one decision and then ignore and even more blatant one. Who is showing unfair intent towards one side now? I will happily compare them as they are singular decisions. You cant predict what happens next can you, really. United may have gone into their shell, come out to hold a tight game, nicked it with Welbeck and Hernandez up the field and taken a hard fought 1-0.

Personally, I agree with Malky Mackay. I think it was a flick out rather than an awful kick and I praise the referee for not falling into this trap that everything that happens in football has to be sensationalised. I could see why you'd give it, but its so much of a nothing really. He saw it, he punished it in a way he thought necessary.

I think theres more going on here that is unnecessary Manchester United sentiment than any ref favouring them.

Rooney was the only player in attack for United doing anything, without him today they were done and dusted. They drew the match with Rooney and 11 men, the way the rest of the team was playing done to 10 men that early on they most likely lose this game. Anyway it goes beyond this match he should be on suspension next week. Not only did the ref help united to undeserved points in this match, they helped United out next week as well.

[It Must Be Love]

NIKE sponsors Rooney Socal, NIKE sponsors Rooney

[It Must Be Love]

It pains me to say it as an United fan, but they really are mediocre at best.
In terms of the Title Race I would say:
Arsenal- I don't see them sustaining this level, especially come the end of the season
Chelsea- Don't have great firepower up-front
Liverpool- They'll fall off as the season continues
Manchester City- Fantastic at home, horrific away
Manchester United- See above. Mediocre

I think Chelsea are probably marginal favourites, followed by City then Arsenal.

[It Must Be Love]

Socal, in case you're ever in the need of cheering up, this should do the trick:
http://tennisrivals.com/2010/05/federer-playing-table-tennis-with-wayne-rooney-in-nike-commercial/

[socal1976]

NIKE sponsors Rooney Socal, NIKE sponsors Rooney

Don't bring the Evil Empire into this, they are a pernicious influence in sports no question not to mention operating sweatshops across the third world and brain washing silly middle class teenagers in spending a day of their parents pay in order to buy 30$ Chinese sneakers for 250 dollars. They should do a movie called the "devil wears a swoosh", when the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse ride in to town you can bet they will be decked out in a pair of vintage Air Jordans.

[socal1976]

It pains me to say it as an United fan, but they really are mediocre at best.
In terms of the Title Race I would say:
Arsenal- I don't see them sustaining this level, especially come the end of the season
Chelsea- Don't have great firepower up-front
Liverpool- They'll fall off as the season continues
Manchester City- Fantastic at home, horrific away
Manchester United- See above. Mediocre

I think Chelsea are probably marginal favourites, followed by City then Arsenal.

If either Rooney or RVP get injured for a long spell I could easily see United playing Thursday night in godforsakenistan somewhere, frankly couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. Rooney would probably contract syphilis from the working girls out there. I know I am an Arsenal fan but I really think we could take the lot of those teams. People talk about Ramsey as they should but Per, Kos, and Scez have been an excellent spine to the Arsenal team. City and Chelsea I see as Arsenal's main competition. I don't know why the Special guy didn't keep Lukaku and instead loaned him out. City are a strong team with as much firepower as any team, anywhere. Still look at the way Arsenal have been defending and winning on the road in the last year or so and look at how City have played on the road. I think any one of Chelsea, Arsenal, and City have a pretty equal chance at it.

[It Must Be Love]

NIKE sponsors Rooney Socal, NIKE sponsors Rooney

Don't bring the Evil Empire into this, they are a pernicious influence in sports no question not to mention operating sweatshops across the third world and brain washing silly middle class teenagers in spending a day of their parents pay in order to buy 30$ Chinese sneakers for 250 dollars. They should do a movie called the "devil wears a swoosh", when the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse ride in to town you can bet they will be decked out in a pair of vintage Air Jordans.

LOL.
They come up with some good posters and Nadal photos with inspiring captions, so I kind of like Nike.
Plus their tennis kits are really nice.

[It Must Be Love]

It pains me to say it as an United fan, but they really are mediocre at best.
In terms of the Title Race I would say:
Arsenal- I don't see them sustaining this level, especially come the end of the season
Chelsea- Don't have great firepower up-front
Liverpool- They'll fall off as the season continues
Manchester City- Fantastic at home, horrific away
Manchester United- See above. Mediocre

I think Chelsea are probably marginal favourites, followed by City then Arsenal.

If either Rooney or RVP get injured for a long spell I could easily see United playing Thursday night in godforsakenistan somewhere, frankly couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. Rooney would probably contract syphilis from the working girls out there. I know I am an Arsenal fan but I really think we could take the lot of those teams. People talk about Ramsey as they should but Per, Kos, and Scez have been an excellent spine to the Arsenal team. City and Chelsea I see as Arsenal's main competition. I don't know why the Special guy didn't keep Lukaku and instead loaned him out. City are a strong team with as much firepower as any team, anywhere. Still look at the way Arsenal have been defending and winning on the road in the last year or so and look at how City have played on the road. I think any one of Chelsea, Arsenal, and City have a pretty equal chance at it.

I just have this sneaky feeling that when the going gets tough at the end of the season Chelsea and City will overtake Arsenal.

[It Must Be Love]

Arsenal I think should go in for Lewandoswki in January, if they have another £30 million or so to spare.
I mean will Dortmund want to sell again to Munich?

[The Fourth Lion]

Feicking hell SoCal. I tell you what you want to watch the privately educated well spoken toffs play rugby mate.. 

High level sport gets so intense.

Have to agree with you there, Oakey.... there is an old saying in rugby, that the reason there is never any crowd trouble in rugger is because all the hooligans are on the pitch.

Agree that Rooney should have been sent for the early bath, but got away with it.  Again.  

I think the referee's assessor will have taken note of that.

But having had his reprieve, he got on with the game and did all he had to do, which is at least professional in the proper sort of way.  

I don't think Manchester United have become a bad team overnight and David Moyse is not a bad manager, but we sometimes lose sight of the fact that United's players had the benefit of a stable (in the sense that it was there) management structure for a very long time.  They knew what was expected of them and they had unshakeable trust in the manager's ability to "find a way".  Whatever needed to be done, Sralex would do it.

David Moyse doesn't have that luxury at this time and it is showing in performances like yesterday's.  I still think they are capable of winning the league, if only because the others all show signs that they might not have what it takes to finish the job themselves.  All other main contenders could fall away...... and even though that they are in transition, nobody is more experienced at pouncing on such a situation and taking advantage of it than Manchester United.

For sure, the Premiership is up for grabs this season and as a neutral (as far as the Premiership goes), I find it quite fascinating.  I'd have to say that in my opinion, Arsenal and Manchester City are the best teams, but the best team doesn't always win the league.

[HM Murdock]

NIKE sponsors Rooney Socal, NIKE sponsors Rooney

Don't bring the Evil Empire into this, they are a pernicious influence in sports no question not to mention operating sweatshops across the third world and brain washing silly middle class teenagers in spending a day of their parents pay in order to buy 30$ Chinese sneakers for 250 dollars. They should do a movie called the "devil wears a swoosh", when the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse ride in to town you can bet they will be decked out in a pair of vintage Air Jordans.

It says a lot that even with the marketing muscle of Nike behind him, everyone still thinks Rooney is unappealing!

The lack of red card yesterday was a joke. But that's the referee's fault, not Rooney's.

Completely bottled the big decision. If you removed referees who either:

a) want to make headlines
or
b) bottle the big moments

we wouldn't have many left.

[TopHat24/7]

Its swings and roundabouts though, you cant lament one decision and then ignore and even more blatant one. Who is showing unfair intent towards one side now? I will happily compare them as they are singular decisions. You cant predict what happens next can you, really. United may have gone into their shell, come out to hold a tight game, nicked it with Welbeck and Hernandez up the field and taken a hard fought 1-0.

Personally, I agree with Malky Mackay. I think it was a flick out rather than an awful kick and I praise the referee for not falling into this trap that everything that happens in football has to be sensationalised. I could see why you'd give it, but its so much of a nothing really. He saw it, he punished it in a way he thought necessary.

I think theres more going on here that is unnecessary Manchester United sentiment than any ref favouring them.

Rooney was the only player in attack for United doing anything, without him today they were done and dusted. They drew the match with Rooney and 11 men, the way the rest of the team was playing done to 10 men that early on they most likely lose this game. Anyway it goes beyond this match he should be on suspension next week. Not only did the ref help united to undeserved points in this match, they helped United out next week as well.

Baloney.

On the balance of play a draw was maybe just about right. So no 'undeserved points'.

And re ref help, if it wasn't for a generous ref Medel would've been sent off and United given a free kick in their own area rather than Cardiff being allowed to whip a second ball in which got them the equaliser.

[compelling and rich]

Feicking hell SoCal. I tell you what you want to watch the privately educated well spoken toffs play rugby mate.. 

High level sport gets so intense.

Have to agree with you there, Oakey.... there is an old saying in rugby, that the reason there is never any crowd trouble in rugger is because all the hooligans are on the pitch.

Agree that Rooney should have been sent for the early bath, but got away with it.  Again.  

I think the referee's assessor will have taken note of that.

But having had his reprieve, he got on with the game and did all he had to do, which is at least professional in the proper sort of way.  

I don't think Manchester United have become a bad team overnight and David Moyse is not a bad manager, but we sometimes lose sight of the fact that United's players had the benefit of a stable (in the sense that it was there) management structure for a very long time.  They knew what was expected of them and they had unshakeable trust in the manager's ability to "find a way".  Whatever needed to be done, Sralex would do it.

David Moyse doesn't have that luxury at this time and it is showing in performances like yesterday's.  I still think they are capable of winning the league, if only because the others all show signs that they might not have what it takes to finish the job themselves.  All other main contenders could fall away...... and even though that they are in transition, nobody is more experienced at pouncing on such a situation and taking advantage of it than Manchester United.

For sure, the Premiership is up for grabs this season and as a neutral (as far as the Premiership goes), I find it quite fascinating.  I'd have to say that in my opinion, Arsenal and Manchester City are the best teams, but the best team doesn't always win the league.

how very dare you, i prefer the saying:

union is a hooligans game played by gentleman, football is a gentleman's game played by hooligans

[HM Murdock]

union is a hooligans game played by gentleman, football is a gentleman's game played by hooligans

I prefer "Union is 15 men trying to pretend they are not injured, football is 11 men trying to pretend that they are"!

[compelling and rich]

union is a hooligans game played by gentleman, football is a gentleman's game played by hooligans

I prefer "Union is 15 men trying to pretend they are not injured, football is 11 men trying to pretend that they are"!

  

brillant, haven't heard that one before

[Stella]

Rooney should have gone/ it was no 'flick out', more of a frustrated kick. I'm not going to knock him for it though. This is sport, and a passionate one.

[socal1976]

Its swings and roundabouts though, you cant lament one decision and then ignore and even more blatant one. Who is showing unfair intent towards one side now? I will happily compare them as they are singular decisions. You cant predict what happens next can you, really. United may have gone into their shell, come out to hold a tight game, nicked it with Welbeck and Hernandez up the field and taken a hard fought 1-0.

Personally, I agree with Malky Mackay. I think it was a flick out rather than an awful kick and I praise the referee for not falling into this trap that everything that happens in football has to be sensationalised. I could see why you'd give it, but its so much of a nothing really. He saw it, he punished it in a way he thought necessary.

I think theres more going on here that is unnecessary Manchester United sentiment than any ref favouring them.

Rooney was the only player in attack for United doing anything, without him today they were done and dusted. They drew the match with Rooney and 11 men, the way the rest of the team was playing done to 10 men that early on they most likely lose this game. Anyway it goes beyond this match he should be on suspension next week. Not only did the ref help united to undeserved points in this match, they helped United out next week as well.

Baloney.

On the balance of play a draw was maybe just about right.  So no 'undeserved points'.

And re ref help, if it wasn't for a generous ref Medel would've been sent off and United given a free kick in their own area rather than Cardiff being allowed to whip a second ball in which got them the equaliser.

Again they wouldn't need a late equalizer if the guy who scored and assisted United's two goals had been properly sent off in 10th minute. Are you going to tell me that Mendel being sent off in the 90th minutes is the equivalent of Rooney being sent off in the tenth minute? Rooney should be out next week as well, if he again is the focus of a United win next week it further elucidates and taints the result. If this had been Luis Suarez, with Suarez being dark and foreign they might ban the guy till next season and Parliament would start hearings to send him to Guantonamo. Typical domestic officiating where apparently no United player ever gets a red card or has done anything that deserves a red card. In short not only is this week's point undeserved, next weeks points are as well as Rooney should be watching from the stands.

[socal1976]

NIKE sponsors Rooney Socal, NIKE sponsors Rooney

Don't bring the Evil Empire into this, they are a pernicious influence in sports no question not to mention operating sweatshops across the third world and brain washing silly middle class teenagers in spending a day of their parents pay in order to buy 30$ Chinese sneakers for 250 dollars. They should do a movie called the "devil wears a swoosh", when the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse ride in to town you can bet they will be decked out in a pair of vintage Air Jordans.

It says a lot that even with the marketing muscle of Nike behind him, everyone still thinks Rooney is unappealing!

The lack of red card yesterday was a joke. But that's the referee's fault, not Rooney's.

Completely bottled the big decision. If you removed referees who either:

a) want to make headlines
or
b) bottle the big moments

we wouldn't have many left.

I agree the 4 blind mice watching the game not only big upped United in this match but for the next match as Sir Fat Body should be on a suspension currently and relying on Cleverly next weekend to do their playmaking and goal scoring. What if this was the world cup and not the domestic league where officials are frightened and cowed by Rooney's status on United and for the 3 lions? I can guarantee you he does anything of this sort in the world cup he will be out and England could go out with him. That is why people need to stop coddling and enabling this hothead.

[HM Murdock]

The only thing he didn't do was take his willy out and bugger the  poor sod.

By the way, Socal, I nearly added this one to the Museum of Socal's Metaphors but I'm not sure how well it would be received over in the Tennis section!

[socal1976]

The only thing he didn't do was take his willy out and bugger the  poor sod.

By the way, Socal, I nearly added this one to the Museum of Socal's Metaphors but I'm not sure how well it would be received over in the Tennis section!

I do have to address with a therapist my anal fixation, since you did that thread I had to do some soul searching. It seems that a majority of my metaphors revolve around arsse and arsse related humor. I may be in need of therapy and some medication, or just a nice scotch.

[socal1976]

Arsenal I think should go in for Lewandoswki in January, if they have another £30 million or so to spare.
I mean will Dortmund want to sell again to Munich?

I hear that Arsene is going to snatch Benzema because Madrid want to sell him for a bargain and go for Suarez. In this way they keep Arsenal from bidding up Suarez's price and send away a player who has not played his best football in recent times at Madrid. From my understanding Benzema could go for 50-60 percent of the price of Lewandowski.

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