1872 Cup Thread 2014: Glasgow vs Edinburgh

[George Carlin]

First topic message reminder :


 
It's that time again. The oldest club fixture in world rugby.
Glasgow looking for an unprecedented fifth successive win.
Bring it.
 

 
It's the the social club versus the golf club, the unwashed versus the exfoliators, the heroin users versus the social drinkers, the chips & cheese versus the salt & sauce, the ramraiders versus the online bank hackers, the knock-off Rolecks versus the original Pateks and the cardiac arrest versus the stress-related work sign-off for a fortnight.
 
A. The Fixtures
 
Round 1
Thursday 26 December 2013, 15:05
Edinburgh Rugby v Glasgow Warriors
Murrayfield Library
 
Referee: Neil Paterson (SRU, 57th competition game)
Assistant Referees: David Changleng, Bob Nevins (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: John Cole (SRU)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)
 
LIVE on BBC ALBA
 
Round 2
Saturday 26 April 2014, 19:05
Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby
Scotstoun Stadium
 
Referee: Mathieu Raynal (FFR, 2nd competition game)
Assistant Referees: Neil Paterson, Graeme Marshall (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: Douglas Hunter (SRU)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)
 
LIVE on BBC ALBA
 
B. Form - head to head
 
20 Played 20
11 Wins 8
8 Losses 11
1 Draws 1
37 Tries 34
22 Conversions 22
53 Penalties 55
11 Drop Goals 5
421 Points 394
26 Avg. Age 26
 
C. Form - last year & this
 
Friday 21 December 2012, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 23 - 14 Edinburgh Rugby
Scotstoun
 
Saturday 29 December 2012, 16:05
Edinburgh Rugby 17 - 21 Glasgow Warriors
Murrayfield
 
Thursday 26 December 2013, 15:05
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 20 Glasgow Warriors
Murrayfield

D. Teams
 
Round 1:
 
(i) Edinburgh

15 Jack Cuthbert
14 Dougie Fife
13 Nick De Luca
12 Ben Atiga
11 Tom Brown
10 Greig Tonks
09 Greig Laidlaw (c)
 
01 Wicus Blaauw
02 Ross Ford
03 Willem Nel
04 Grant Gilchrist
05 Ollie Atkins
06 Cornell Du Preez
07 Roddy Grant
08 David Denton
 
16 Aleki Lutui
17 Alex Allan
18 Geoff Cross
19 Izak van der Westhuizen
20 Mike Coman
21 Grayson Hart
22 Tony Fenner
23 Sam Beard
 
(ii) Glasgow

15. Sean Maitland
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Stuart Hogg
12. Alex Dunbar
11. DTH van der Merwe
10. Duncan Weir
09. Chris Cusiter (c)
 
01. Ryan Grant
02. Pat MacArthur
03. Jon Welsh
04. Tim Swinson
05. Tom Ryder
06. Rob Harley
07. Tyrone Holmes
08. Ryan Wilson
 
16. Dougie Hall
17. Gordon Reid
18. Moray Low
19. Leone Nakarawa
20. Josh Strauss
21. Chris Fusaro
22. Henry Pyrgos
23. Ruaridh Jackson
 
Round 2
 
(i) Glasgow
 
15. Peter Murchie
14. Sean Maitland
13. Mark Bennett
12. Finn Russell
11. Tommy Seymour
10. Ruaridh Jackson
09. Chris Cusiter

01. Ryan Grant
02. Dougie Hall
03. Jon Welsh
04. Jonny Gray
05. Al Kellock (Captain)
06. Rob Harley
07. Chris Fusaro
08. Josh Strauss

16. Pat MacArthur
17. Jerry Yanuyanutawa
18. Moray Low
19. Leone Nakarawa
20. Ryan Wilson
21. Niko Matawalu
22. Duncan Weir
23. Richie Vernon
 
(ii) Edinburgh

15 Cuthbert
14 Brown
13 Scott
12 Strauss
11 Visser
10 Bezuidenhout
09 Laidlaw (c)

08 Denton
07 Du Preez
06 Coman
05 van der Westhuizen
04 Gilchrist
03 Nel
02 Ford
01 Dickinson

16 Hilterbrand
17 Blaauw
18 Berghan
19 Toolis
20 Leonardi
21 Hart
22 Francis
23 Beard

[CraigS1874]

Peter wright ain't on 810 so no point listening

  

[tigertattie]

This is actually a good game. End to end stuff. And Jackson is having a good game. Point to prove?

[RDW]

All come from a messed up restart.

Incredibly soft yellow card!

[BigGee]

Try and a yellow! Can't really argue with that

[BigGee]

All come from a messed up restart.

Incredibly soft yellow card!

They were on a warning, Living dangerously!

[RDW]

Would be good to see some more replays of the yellow - think it looked a lot worse in real time than it was.

Fair point BigGee - if it was for repeated infringements then can understand at. As an isolated incident it did seem pretty soft!

[RDW]

Visser doing his best to pretend he wasn't able to tackle Strauss!

[BigGee]

Jackson is having a good game, keen to show the boys what they will be missing next year. When on his game he is a very exciting player

[George Carlin]

Just how many knock ons is the ref planning to miss in this passage of play?

[RDW]

Matt Scott has looked very sharp for a few games in a row now - bodes well for the summer tour.

[BigGee]

Fair play to Edinburgh, they are keeping the Warriors honest. Best attacking play from Edinburgh all season

[RDW]

Once again Edinburgh being on the wrong side of the ref at ruck time - been the same all season!

[RDW]

Nice try.

Glasgow have taken points every time they've been in our 22.

3 tries already!

[BigGee]

Once again Edinburgh being on the wrong side of the ref at ruck time - been the same all season!

You can see why though, they just take to long to move away. Other teams do it but far more cleaverly

[BigGee]

Surely we can manage one try in the second half! Glasgow not at their best, but look so fluent when they do get some forward momentum. Bennett has scored one and saved one. A pretty good effort!

Just waits till the bench comes on, especially if the game is won

[tigertattie]

Glasgow really look dangerous with the ball

[George Carlin]

Very good game by both sides, to be fair.

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

I found a radio old enough to receive AM frequencies (my alarm clock funnily enough)!

Why is rugby coverage on the oldest radio medium that isn't even ever streamed online...?!

Interesting game so far. Glasgow looking ruthless, yet Embra poking holes in the best defence in the league.

[RDW]

Once again Edinburgh being on the wrong side of the ref at ruck time - been the same all season!

You can see why though, they just take to long to move away. Other teams do it but far more cleaverly

That's what I'm saying - it can't be coincidence or ref having it in for them if it happens every game.

[TJ]

Did I really see Visser packing  down at 7

[TJ]

Enjoying the game and looks to be heading for the right result. Glasgow get the win and the bonus points and Edinburgh get a bonus point and do not look uncompetitive.

Is Bezzy really the best 10 we have available?

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

The Beeb now have a stream from BBC Radio Scotland (810mw) on their website. Why couldn't they put it up beofre kick-off rather than just before half time! Grrrrrrbeeb
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/18287084

[Guest]

Interview with Ford "Greig Laidlaw is moving down to the cherry and whites next season. Have you ever considered playing..." my head finished the sentence for some reason with "at 9?"

Unfortunately he didn't say that and the interview continued to be dull.

[BigGee]

How was Ross Ford ever Scotland's or even anyone's captain. Unfortunately he just does not have the personality for it

[Guest]

Enjoying the game and looks to be heading for the right result.  Glasgow get the win and the bonus points and Edinburgh get a bonus point and do not look uncompetitive.

Is Bezzy really the best 10 we have available?

In tramtown or the whole of Scotland?

[TJ]

Once again Edinburgh being on the wrong side of the ref at ruck time - been the same all season!

the ref has been very quick to blow - and a couple of times a bit harsh - but basically consistent and wants quick ball from rucks

Yellow there was harsh - not sure he could have got away

[BigGee]

Looked like a try to me

[Guest]

Looked like a try to me

Yup. If we don't get a BP now and miss out on home semi final .. heh

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

You can hear the pride in Sean Lineen's voice when he talks about the young players he brought into the squad (Fusaro, Seymour etc) strutting their stuff.

Peter Wright may not be commentating but I feel he's there in spirit.

[RDW]

Missed the yellow - what happened?

[BigGee]

Looked like a try to me

Yup. If we don't get a BP now and miss out on home semi final .. heh

Plenty of time!

[George Carlin]

Interview with Ford "Greig Laidlaw is moving down to the cherry and whites next season. Have you ever considered playing..." my head finished the sentence for some reason with "at 9?"

Unfortunately he didn't say that and the interview continued to be dull.

I was really hoping they would ask Ford "have you considered practicing throwing in and hooking in your spare time?"

[VinceWLB]

So much for Strauss being afraid of facing du Preez! he just put him on his arse   

[VinceWLB]

Missed the yellow - what happened?

Coman not rolling away.

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

Cracking rugby. These games should be played in the summer, much better rugby being played on the firmer ground. Embra will have that fancy pitch next season i suppose.

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

Murchie with his 2nd!

TBP for the Great Unwashed!

[RDW]

I'd be loving this Glasgow performance of it wasn't against Edinburgh.

[George Carlin]

Murchie furra lineeeee

[GLove39]

4th try for Glasgow    

[RDW]

Is Britain's got talent on?

[BigGee]

Great try but fair play to Edinburgh for keeping them out for so long. If they normally defended like that it would have been a very different season for them

[Argybargy]

Looks like Kellock's neck has completely disappeared.
Lack of recent game time stretching it over rucks from a great distance has likely seen it shrink into his shoulders. Maybe.

[BigGee]

The cavalry are coming on now. This could get messy now

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

Is Britain's got talent on?

Now that the weege have their TBP, I'm now support Embra so they too get a TBP (to go with their LBP)   

[RDW]

Gilchrist has had another strong game tonight and his lineout work has been excellent all season.

Throw in Gray 's storming season too and Scotland are definitely well stocked in the 2nd row!

[cakeordeath]

30 - 27 will do me

[Guest]

With this kind of rolling over (and not rolling away) and with Italy x 2 to come up, is anyone worried we'll be undercooked?

(I am joking about Edinburgh being a roll over but you can see my point)

[BigGee]

Matt Scott sure knows where the try line is at the moment

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

Matt Scott scores within minutes of moving to inside centre!

There you go RDW! My support pushed him over the line

[Guest]

Do you get the impression the Alba guy just knows he's being paid to talk to himself?

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