1872 Cup Thread 2014: Glasgow vs Edinburgh

[George Carlin]

First topic message reminder :


 
It's that time again. The oldest club fixture in world rugby.
Glasgow looking for an unprecedented fifth successive win.
Bring it.
 

 
It's the the social club versus the golf club, the unwashed versus the exfoliators, the heroin users versus the social drinkers, the chips & cheese versus the salt & sauce, the ramraiders versus the online bank hackers, the knock-off Rolecks versus the original Pateks and the cardiac arrest versus the stress-related work sign-off for a fortnight.
 
A. The Fixtures
 
Round 1
Thursday 26 December 2013, 15:05
Edinburgh Rugby v Glasgow Warriors
Murrayfield Library
 
Referee: Neil Paterson (SRU, 57th competition game)
Assistant Referees: David Changleng, Bob Nevins (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: John Cole (SRU)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)
 
LIVE on BBC ALBA
 
Round 2
Saturday 26 April 2014, 19:05
Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby
Scotstoun Stadium
 
Referee: Mathieu Raynal (FFR, 2nd competition game)
Assistant Referees: Neil Paterson, Graeme Marshall (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: Douglas Hunter (SRU)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)
 
LIVE on BBC ALBA
 
B. Form - head to head
 
20 Played 20
11 Wins 8
8 Losses 11
1 Draws 1
37 Tries 34
22 Conversions 22
53 Penalties 55
11 Drop Goals 5
421 Points 394
26 Avg. Age 26
 
C. Form - last year & this
 
Friday 21 December 2012, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 23 - 14 Edinburgh Rugby
Scotstoun
 
Saturday 29 December 2012, 16:05
Edinburgh Rugby 17 - 21 Glasgow Warriors
Murrayfield
 
Thursday 26 December 2013, 15:05
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 20 Glasgow Warriors
Murrayfield

D. Teams
 
Round 1:
 
(i) Edinburgh

15 Jack Cuthbert
14 Dougie Fife
13 Nick De Luca
12 Ben Atiga
11 Tom Brown
10 Greig Tonks
09 Greig Laidlaw (c)
 
01 Wicus Blaauw
02 Ross Ford
03 Willem Nel
04 Grant Gilchrist
05 Ollie Atkins
06 Cornell Du Preez
07 Roddy Grant
08 David Denton
 
16 Aleki Lutui
17 Alex Allan
18 Geoff Cross
19 Izak van der Westhuizen
20 Mike Coman
21 Grayson Hart
22 Tony Fenner
23 Sam Beard
 
(ii) Glasgow

15. Sean Maitland
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Stuart Hogg
12. Alex Dunbar
11. DTH van der Merwe
10. Duncan Weir
09. Chris Cusiter (c)
 
01. Ryan Grant
02. Pat MacArthur
03. Jon Welsh
04. Tim Swinson
05. Tom Ryder
06. Rob Harley
07. Tyrone Holmes
08. Ryan Wilson
 
16. Dougie Hall
17. Gordon Reid
18. Moray Low
19. Leone Nakarawa
20. Josh Strauss
21. Chris Fusaro
22. Henry Pyrgos
23. Ruaridh Jackson
 
Round 2
 
(i) Glasgow
 
15. Peter Murchie
14. Sean Maitland
13. Mark Bennett
12. Finn Russell
11. Tommy Seymour
10. Ruaridh Jackson
09. Chris Cusiter

01. Ryan Grant
02. Dougie Hall
03. Jon Welsh
04. Jonny Gray
05. Al Kellock (Captain)
06. Rob Harley
07. Chris Fusaro
08. Josh Strauss

16. Pat MacArthur
17. Jerry Yanuyanutawa
18. Moray Low
19. Leone Nakarawa
20. Ryan Wilson
21. Niko Matawalu
22. Duncan Weir
23. Richie Vernon
 
(ii) Edinburgh

15 Cuthbert
14 Brown
13 Scott
12 Strauss
11 Visser
10 Bezuidenhout
09 Laidlaw (c)

08 Denton
07 Du Preez
06 Coman
05 van der Westhuizen
04 Gilchrist
03 Nel
02 Ford
01 Dickinson

16 Hilterbrand
17 Blaauw
18 Berghan
19 Toolis
20 Leonardi
21 Hart
22 Francis
23 Beard

[RDW]

Du Preez clearly showing he's not played with visser much - give him the ball in space as early as possible ffs!

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

Du Preez just failed to release Visser in a dire fashion. He's probably exhausted.

Should've been a Visser furra lineee moment!


Uh oh... here come the Unwashed subs!

[RDW]

It's ok lads - we've still got Piers Francis to come off the bench...

[Guest]

It's ok lads - we've still got Piers Francis to come off the bench...

TJ there's your answer RE: Bezzy

[Argybargy]

Do you get the impression the Alba guy just knows he's being paid to talk to himself?

He could very well be reading his shopping list for all we know.....

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

It's ok lads - we've still got Piers Francis to come off the bench...

I'm expecting him to play well now that he's leaving the club, that kind of irony wouldn't be lost on Edinburgh.

The game is breaking up now and losing it's structure and more mistakes creeping in, but nice run up field by Jack Cuthbert!

[RDW]

Been a pretty entertaining game, but Glasgow are yet to get out of 2nd gear really

[BigGee]

Letting Low go and keeping Welsh was a very smart bit of business. Glasgow scrum not the same since he went off

[RDW]

Vernon on - we're doomed!

[cakeordeath]

Bennett has been outstanding

[RDW]

Scott 12 Bennett 13 for the summer tour since Dunbar hasn't played much recently?

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

Try Harley!

You really do have to hold you breath whenever Matawalu touches that ball!

[cakeordeath]

Right come on Edinburgh let's get a try

[Argybargy]

Odds on Harley getting 5th try?

[BigGee]

Great try Glasgow. That puts it to bed!

Murchie definitely MoM. Is Hoggy ever going to get back in the team?

[RDW]

Welsh??

[George Carlin]

Welsh??

Totally disagree with Horne on that. Catweazel, Gray or Murchie for me.

[RDW]

Surely visser was over the line there!

[BigGee]

Welsh??

He had a good game but definitely Murchie for me

[cakeordeath]

I thought so

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

I too think Visser actually got that down...

Welsh MoM

Who's Catweazel?

[RDW]

Just give us the try!

[cakeordeath]

Just give them the try

[George Carlin]

Definitely a 'gimme'.

[RDW]

Well we've made the game a contest anyway!

[BigGee]

I think it was the other try that was good, anyway it makes no difference, he even kicked the goal

[RDW]

Two points - I'll take that!

[tigertattie]

Visser furra linee

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

WHAT DID I TELL YOU RDW! TBP & LBP!

[Guest]

Hahaha conspiracy we gave them 2 league points in 2 minutes

[George Carlin]

9 tries in a local derby.

Bugger me with a baguette.

[GLove39]

So 4try bonus points all around..!!!!!
Fair to say Glasgow took their foot off the pedal at the end there. Good finishing by Visser

[RDW]

 

[BigGee]

Visser has not forgotten how to score. Glasgow dozed off at the end but the game was won and the five points in the bag. Good game for the spectators, for Glasgow and Edinburgh can take something as well

A win-win kind of evening

[TJ]

Just about the perfect result. Cracking game. A wee mention to the ref looked poor early on but in the end contributed to a good game.

[cakeordeath]

Bennett, Strauss and Scott played really well. Visser is looking good for being out so long

[RDW]

Considering we played 20 minutes with 14 men I'm delighted with 2 points!

[tigertattie]

Tell you what. If we can blend Glasgow and Edinburgh together Scotland really could start to play well.

Laidlaw, Dickenson, gilchrist and particularly Matt Scott (12) had good games.

Glasgow were great. Won that game at a canter. Bennett, Russell and jacko had great games.

[CraigS1874]

good game and a great result for scottish rugby, scott was excellent so were russell and bennett. The battle of the back row was interesting, du preez looked better than strauss but I thought denton was poor.

Very impressed by murchie and jackson, overall a great game lets hope glasgow get wins in the next few weeks.

[TJ]

Tell you what. If we can blend Glasgow and Edinburgh together Scotland really could start to play well.

The players are there. Can Cotter make a team out of them?

What is particularly heartening is the youngsters who are really showing some class. Finn Russell, Bennett, Ickle Jonny etc.

[George Carlin]

Lovely sight, this:

Team/Played/Won/Drawn/Lost/For/Against/Bonus Pts/Points

1   Leinster   20  15  1  4  517  319  12  74  
2   Glasgow   20  16  0  4  392  293  5  69
3   Munster   20  15  0  5  466  308  8  68  
4   Ulster   20  14  0  6  431  280  9  65  
5   Ospreys   20  12  1  7  499  338  10  60

[RDW]

Reckon Russell should go on the summer tour? He's on great form just now but can't help but think he could benefit from a proper pre season to get his conditioning up to standard.

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

Lovely sight, this:

Team/Played/Won/Drawn/Lost/For/Against/Bonus Pts/Points

1   Leinster   20  15  1  4  517  319  12  74  
2   Glasgow   20  16  0  4  392  293  5  69
3   Munster   20  15  0  5  466  308  8  68  
4   Ulster   20  14  0  6  431  280  9  65  
5   Ospreys   20  12  1  7  499  338  10  60

Especially given the fixtures in the last two rounds! I'm licking my chops!

I do love Al Kellock as a captain, just listening to him speak gets me fired up. He sounds like he means business.

And that is a tough question RDW, tour or thorough pre-season...?

[RDW]

It's strange to think that it's only his first season as a pro!

[BigGee]

Reckon Russell should go on the summer tour? He's on great form just now but can't help but think he could benefit from a proper pre season to get his conditioning up to standard.

On form he should go, but remember he played all last summer in New Zealand as well. I think he should be rested and looked after for the longer term. If Jacko plays like he did tonight he will soon be back in the mix as well!

[A Simply Mesmeric Try]

I know, yet he shows such composure. He's in a much stronger team than when say Rhubarb appeared on the scene. The future is bright in the west

695 posts, jeez. We're on course for 1000 posts GC

[Weegie Wizard]

If that wasn't a fix I don't know what is!
Great game.

[George Carlin]

I know, yet he shows such composure. He's in a much stronger team than when say Rhubarb appeared on the scene. The future is bright in the west

695 posts, jeez. We're on course for 1000 posts GC

Ah, way short. I'll need to accuse Du Preez of being a hermaphrodite to get another couple of hundred in.

[RDW]

Form Scotland backline after tonight?

9 Cusiter
10 Russell (better goal kicker)
11 Visser
12 Scott
13 Bennett
14 Maitland
15 Murchie

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Great result for Glasgow and an exciting game. Glasgow fell out the game for 15 minutes or so in the 2nd half but apart from that well worth the win.

Think we broke our home attendance record which was a decent achievement considering that so few Edinburgh fans made the trip.

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