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SARACENS

"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"


2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
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4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner Saracens - Page 5 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 5 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 5 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 5 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 5 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 5 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=


INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt

FIXTURES

Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup

Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)

Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)

League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)



MATCHDAY


PositionStrongest Squad
1S.Tonga'uia
2B.Du Plessis
3O.Franks
4L.Nallet
5P.Albacete
6R.Elsom
7S.Burger
8S.Parisse
9J.Cowan
10N.Evans
11H.Gear
12M.Nonu
13J.Fourie
14D.Mitchell
15I.Toeava
16R.Roncero
17P.Dixon
18R.M-Chluski
19M.Bergamasco
20R.Wigglesworth
21B.James
22C.Heymans

FIRST TEAM SQUAD

Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)

Forwards
NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Soane Tonga'uiaLH
Tonga
Key Player

Rodrigo Roncero
LHArg
First Team
Wyatt CrockettLHNZFirst Team
Owen FranksTH/LHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Matt StevensTH/LHEngFirst TeamINJ
Bismarck Du PlessisHKSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Pieter DixonHKZimbBack Up£10m
Lionel NalletLKFranceKey Player
Patricio AlbaceteLKArgentinaKey Player
Romain Millo-Chluski LKFranceFirst Team
Julien PierreLKFranceRotation
Rocky ElsomBS/N8AustraliaInvaluable
Schalk BurgerOS/BS/N8SAInvaluableNot For Sale
Sergio ParisseN8ItalyInvaluableNot For Sale
Mirco Bergamasco
OS/BS
Italy
First Team

Wycliff PaluN8/BSAustraliaFirst Team
Thomas WaldromN8/BSNZRotation£18m
Matt ToddOS/BSNZRotation
Backs

NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Jimmy CowanSHNZKey Player
Richard WigglesworthSHEnglandFirst Team£14m
Nick EvansFHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Butch JamesFH/ICSARotation
Ma'a NonuIC/OC/WGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Jacque FourieOC/IC/WGSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Brad BarrittICEnglandRotation
Hosea GearWGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Drew Mitchell
WG/FB
Aus
Invaluable
Not For Sale
Isaia ToeavaFB/WG/OCNZKey Player
Cedric HeymansWG/FBFranceFirst Team
Ben SmithFB/WGNZFirst Team






INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens

FINANCES
Budget: £5m


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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:47 pm

no thoughts on my idea? could lower the cash a bit, but still think its fair to get a bit back if i take on bendy/strettle, the ratings today showed how poorly they are thought of!
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I think the difference between awj & bekker would cancel that out mate! I wouldn't do cash as well sorry.

Lets leave it for a bit - I might need to see when the next injuries are as well!

cheers mate

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:49 pm

i actually think you should keep your locks as they are - they are good - I would look for another hooker maybe for dixon?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:50 pm

think your right mate - not sure what I want today Smile sorry!

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:56 pm

1. Hore
2. Hartley
3. Malmanche

but Malmanche cover hooker and bot side prop

Part of me thought about buying Mears and trying to fit that in with a deal for you?
But I really need the cash for a back/second row . . .

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Post by CJB Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:36 pm

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/news/article/-/9599439/hurricanes-axe-veteran-star/

Causing troubles I bet he is causing trouble in your squad i'd release him mate Wink

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Post by CJB Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:44 pm

Seems to be more of an attitude problem. If he joins Chiefs then he will be playing with Kahui so you good chemistry

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:22 pm

seen him kick before - he was shocking but he has done it!

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:29 pm

good point - but by shocking I mean like quade cooper shocking lol Smile
and your right about center, have seen him cover there in matches but certainly not start there will take that off Smile

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Post by GloucesterBear Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:49 pm

Deacon & Toeava & Gear/Evans
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Not bothered & Steyn & Guildford/Lambie
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Post by GloucesterBear Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:04 pm

Deacon & Tuilagi
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Thion & Kahui

Could do that if your happy, or Maitland for Evans lesser gain gap then.
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:56 pm

well Bekker . . . Bekker Boric in a deal really . . .
or something I don't know arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:58 pm

arghhhhh


Bekker & Bendy
for
Boric & Halfpenny

.. . . . . . . .

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:02 pm

no probs - will certainly hold fire . . .
so if
Bekker & cash
for
Boric & Halfpenny

what would the cash be?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:56 pm

Bekker + £3m
4
Halfpenny
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dude theres no way I would do bekker & cash for 1/2 P - sorry!!


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Post by Fluxy Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:58 pm

I'd prefer halfpenny by the way I need a winger, though I would like Kahui too. But looks like you'd be unable to get Lobbe sorry.

But I'd rather consider the combo swap and the players I'm after mate

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:07 pm

would maybe consider

bekker & traille
for
Half penny & Kahui

depending on how 1/2 P is rated as a FB?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:38 pm

well I would hardly say I am keen but I do need to do something with my backs . . . loosing Traille is a biggy though.

I assume we will have to put it through after this round?


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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:50 pm

Hook & Steyn & Deacon & Evans
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N.Evans & Toeava & Thion & Maitland/Halfpenny

Thanks
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Post by Fluxy Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:56 pm

Seeing as I'd be swapping kirchener, in principal I would offer;

Lawes + Palmer + Ayerza + Ansbro + Evans
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Nallet + Thion + Parr + Kahui + Halfpenny

That ok?

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:59 pm

Hook & Deacon & R.Davies
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N.Evans & Thion & Halfpenny

?
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Post by Fluxy Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:02 pm

Yeah it'd be max Evans and that's alright but no if Bear pulls through

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:07 pm

Steenkamp & N.Evans & Maitland
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Woodcock & Hook & M.Evans/R.Davies

?
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:08 pm

I may do that mate - assume it would go through after todays game?

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:14 pm

only a marginal gain, no it isn't I have seen the comments on Steenkamp it's clear you would be getting a top two loosehead prop in Woodcock for him.

Hook you say you like at 10, I know it would mean losing Evans but Hook is quality and can play centre and full-back.
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:18 pm

ah sorry - so many posts going round. I may do that deal:
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Bekker & Traille
for
Halfpenny & Kahui
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if you are up for it . . . but like you say still thinking about it . . . I need to make sure I can get someone else in for cover . . .

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:27 pm

yeah I think your right - i need the backs desperately - not sure how Kahui is rated, I like him.

ok lets do it before I change my mind Smile - am gutted to loose traille - he's one of my favourite players, up there with banahan!!

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:31 pm

Give me Traille 4 Donald then if you get him or Lambie.

I need something you won't even sell bench players like Halfpenny or Maitland Crying or Very sad
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:40 pm

I need something from somewhere.

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:54 pm

Definitely a step too far.

I only want one change then im happy, Lambie or Donald needs improving on then I have finished but can't seem to get rid of one of them.

I need a better 10.
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Post by pullthestrings Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:56 pm

If I were to get my hands on Steyn and Hook would you be willing to do a deal for Nonu/Fourie?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:34 pm

ok shall we do that deal then, think I am ok with it . . .

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Post by CJB Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:01 pm

It suggested the Chiefs?

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:54 pm

I've kind of been shafted by Bear, so mate;

Lawes + Palmer + Ayerza + Ansbro + Heymans
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Nallet + Thion + Parr + Kahui + Halfpenny

Sound okay?

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:28 pm

I'm just about to respond to your message!

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:41 pm

you not interested in the bekker deal anymore?

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:46 pm

I'd be happy with Heymans going, but would we be able to cancel the Ayerza part then?

I think people rate the England combo highly, it's very effective.

What do you say?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:52 pm

ah well you see . . .
Was thinking about if we did the bekker deal.

YOu see I loose Bekker, move jones to LK back up, then have Easter as Backrow back up, and get hte backs int eh bekker deal we do!

does that make sense?

but looks like your doing a differnt deal now Sad

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:52 pm

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:58 pm

we ended up waiting on

Bekker + Traille
4
Halfpenny + Kahui


i promise i didn't edit that Wink

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:58 pm

Okay then if we're keeping Ayerza, it would have to Evans not Heymans.

I'll let you canvas opinion for the locks, but in my eyes it's better than what you;ve got

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Post by GloucesterBear Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:24 am

Sorry to say this again but as you will have one of them on the bench.

Anything for Maitland or Halfpenny?
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Post by GloucesterBear Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:44 am

Lobbe + Tuilagi/Visser
4
Waldrom + Halfpenny

Lobbe is massive, but rather improve my flankers rather than loose out.

My next target domestic wise is a winger, so might cause some rifts trying to get one.

Lambie is for sale at a cut price of 18 million if anybody wants him, will try and sign O'Gara or Jones from the foreigns when I have money.

Then make a tweak at flanker and see where that brings me.

So three positions basically.
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Post by GloucesterBear Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:45 am

Thion & Halfpenny/Maitland
4
Deacon & Tuilagi/Visser

As one of them is on the bench, and you seem to be keen on Deacon it works out?
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:31 am

dude i assume our bekker deal is a no go then?
I could do with knowing as if so I will cancel my foriegn bid thumbsup

cheers

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:49 am

How do you want your prediction bonus to be split? £1.5 mil each or £3 mil to one?

At the moment I've done £3 mil to Saracens.

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Post by CJB Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:49 am

Pull when I did care taking both got £3m?

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:14 am

Fair one, I've added to both thumbsup

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:38 am

I am tempted by that but think I would still need cover at backrow if I did that deal.

Lets do that one for now I am ok with that.

Bekker
for
Halfpenny & £3 mil

Cheers

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Post by Fluxy Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:57 am

I see you've sold off Halfpenny, therefore can anything still be done for Kahui?

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:57 am

So many locks Shocked

Can I pinch one?

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