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Saracens
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SARACENS
"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"
2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
Challenge Cup Winners
4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner
INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt
FIXTURES
Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup
Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)
Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)
League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)
MATCHDAY
FIRST TEAM SQUAD
Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)
Forwards
Backs
INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens
FINANCES
Budget: £5m
SARACENS
"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"
2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
Challenge Cup Winners
4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner
INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt
FIXTURES
Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup
Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)
Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)
League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)
MATCHDAY
Position | Strongest Squad |
1 | S.Tonga'uia |
2 | B.Du Plessis |
3 | O.Franks |
4 | L.Nallet |
5 | P.Albacete |
6 | R.Elsom |
7 | S.Burger |
8 | S.Parisse |
9 | J.Cowan |
10 | N.Evans |
11 | H.Gear |
12 | M.Nonu |
13 | J.Fourie |
14 | D.Mitchell |
15 | I.Toeava |
16 | R.Roncero |
17 | P.Dixon |
18 | R.M-Chluski |
19 | M.Bergamasco |
20 | R.Wigglesworth |
21 | B.James |
22 | C.Heymans |
FIRST TEAM SQUAD
Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)
Forwards
Name | Position | Nationality | Squad Status | Value |
Soane Tonga'uia | LH | Tonga | Key Player | |
Rodrigo Roncero | LH | Arg | First Team | |
Wyatt Crockett | LH | NZ | First Team | |
Owen Franks | TH/LH | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Matt Stevens | TH/LH | Eng | First Team | INJ |
Bismarck Du Plessis | HK | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Pieter Dixon | HK | Zimb | Back Up | £10m |
Lionel Nallet | LK | France | Key Player | |
Patricio Albacete | LK | Argentina | Key Player | |
Romain Millo-Chluski | LK | France | First Team | |
Julien Pierre | LK | France | Rotation | |
Rocky Elsom | BS/N8 | Australia | Invaluable | |
Schalk Burger | OS/BS/N8 | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Sergio Parisse | N8 | Italy | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Mirco Bergamasco | OS/BS | Italy | First Team | |
Wycliff Palu | N8/BS | Australia | First Team | |
Thomas Waldrom | N8/BS | NZ | Rotation | £18m |
Matt Todd | OS/BS | NZ | Rotation |
Name | Position | Nationality | Squad Status | Value |
Jimmy Cowan | SH | NZ | Key Player | |
Richard Wigglesworth | SH | England | First Team | £14m |
Nick Evans | FH | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Butch James | FH/IC | SA | Rotation | |
Ma'a Nonu | IC/OC/WG | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Jacque Fourie | OC/IC/WG | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Brad Barritt | IC | England | Rotation | |
Hosea Gear | WG | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Drew Mitchell | WG/FB | Aus | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Isaia Toeava | FB/WG/OC | NZ | Key Player | |
Cedric Heymans | WG/FB | France | First Team | |
Ben Smith | FB/WG | NZ | First Team | |
INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens
FINANCES
Budget: £5m
Last edited by Bathite on Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:16 pm; edited 143 times in total
Bathite- Posts : 8468
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Re: Saracens
no thoughts on my idea? could lower the cash a bit, but still think its fair to get a bit back if i take on bendy/strettle, the ratings today showed how poorly they are thought of!
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I think the difference between awj & bekker would cancel that out mate! I wouldn't do cash as well sorry.
Lets leave it for a bit - I might need to see when the next injuries are as well!
cheers mate
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I think the difference between awj & bekker would cancel that out mate! I wouldn't do cash as well sorry.
Lets leave it for a bit - I might need to see when the next injuries are as well!
cheers mate
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
i actually think you should keep your locks as they are - they are good - I would look for another hooker maybe for dixon?
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
think your right mate - not sure what I want today sorry!
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
1. Hore
2. Hartley
3. Malmanche
but Malmanche cover hooker and bot side prop
Part of me thought about buying Mears and trying to fit that in with a deal for you?
But I really need the cash for a back/second row . . .
2. Hartley
3. Malmanche
but Malmanche cover hooker and bot side prop
Part of me thought about buying Mears and trying to fit that in with a deal for you?
But I really need the cash for a back/second row . . .
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/news/article/-/9599439/hurricanes-axe-veteran-star/
Causing troubles I bet he is causing trouble in your squad i'd release him mate
Causing troubles I bet he is causing trouble in your squad i'd release him mate
CJB- Posts : 5762
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Re: Saracens
Seems to be more of an attitude problem. If he joins Chiefs then he will be playing with Kahui so you good chemistry
CJB- Posts : 5762
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Re: Saracens
seen him kick before - he was shocking but he has done it!
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
good point - but by shocking I mean like quade cooper shocking lol
and your right about center, have seen him cover there in matches but certainly not start there will take that off
and your right about center, have seen him cover there in matches but certainly not start there will take that off
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
Deacon & Toeava & Gear/Evans
4
Not bothered & Steyn & Guildford/Lambie
4
Not bothered & Steyn & Guildford/Lambie
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Deacon & Tuilagi
4
Thion & Kahui
Could do that if your happy, or Maitland for Evans lesser gain gap then.
4
Thion & Kahui
Could do that if your happy, or Maitland for Evans lesser gain gap then.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
well Bekker . . . Bekker Boric in a deal really . . .
or something I don't know arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
or something I don't know arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
arghhhhh
Bekker & Bendy
for
Boric & Halfpenny
.. . . . . . . .
Bekker & Bendy
for
Boric & Halfpenny
.. . . . . . . .
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
no probs - will certainly hold fire . . .
so if
Bekker & cash
for
Boric & Halfpenny
what would the cash be?
so if
Bekker & cash
for
Boric & Halfpenny
what would the cash be?
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
Bekker + £3m
4
Halfpenny
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dude theres no way I would do bekker & cash for 1/2 P - sorry!!
4
Halfpenny
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dude theres no way I would do bekker & cash for 1/2 P - sorry!!
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
I'd prefer halfpenny by the way I need a winger, though I would like Kahui too. But looks like you'd be unable to get Lobbe sorry.
But I'd rather consider the combo swap and the players I'm after mate
But I'd rather consider the combo swap and the players I'm after mate
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Re: Saracens
would maybe consider
bekker & traille
for
Half penny & Kahui
depending on how 1/2 P is rated as a FB?
bekker & traille
for
Half penny & Kahui
depending on how 1/2 P is rated as a FB?
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
well I would hardly say I am keen but I do need to do something with my backs . . . loosing Traille is a biggy though.
I assume we will have to put it through after this round?
I assume we will have to put it through after this round?
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
Hook & Steyn & Deacon & Evans
4
N.Evans & Toeava & Thion & Maitland/Halfpenny
Thanks
4
N.Evans & Toeava & Thion & Maitland/Halfpenny
Thanks
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Seeing as I'd be swapping kirchener, in principal I would offer;
Lawes + Palmer + Ayerza + Ansbro + Evans
=
Nallet + Thion + Parr + Kahui + Halfpenny
That ok?
Lawes + Palmer + Ayerza + Ansbro + Evans
=
Nallet + Thion + Parr + Kahui + Halfpenny
That ok?
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Re: Saracens
Hook & Deacon & R.Davies
4
N.Evans & Thion & Halfpenny
?
4
N.Evans & Thion & Halfpenny
?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Yeah it'd be max Evans and that's alright but no if Bear pulls through
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Re: Saracens
Steenkamp & N.Evans & Maitland
4
Woodcock & Hook & M.Evans/R.Davies
?
4
Woodcock & Hook & M.Evans/R.Davies
?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
I may do that mate - assume it would go through after todays game?
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
only a marginal gain, no it isn't I have seen the comments on Steenkamp it's clear you would be getting a top two loosehead prop in Woodcock for him.
Hook you say you like at 10, I know it would mean losing Evans but Hook is quality and can play centre and full-back.
Hook you say you like at 10, I know it would mean losing Evans but Hook is quality and can play centre and full-back.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
ah sorry - so many posts going round. I may do that deal:
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Bekker & Traille
for
Halfpenny & Kahui
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if you are up for it . . . but like you say still thinking about it . . . I need to make sure I can get someone else in for cover . . .
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Bekker & Traille
for
Halfpenny & Kahui
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if you are up for it . . . but like you say still thinking about it . . . I need to make sure I can get someone else in for cover . . .
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
yeah I think your right - i need the backs desperately - not sure how Kahui is rated, I like him.
ok lets do it before I change my mind - am gutted to loose traille - he's one of my favourite players, up there with banahan!!
ok lets do it before I change my mind - am gutted to loose traille - he's one of my favourite players, up there with banahan!!
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
Give me Traille 4 Donald then if you get him or Lambie.
I need something you won't even sell bench players like Halfpenny or Maitland
I need something you won't even sell bench players like Halfpenny or Maitland
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
I need something from somewhere.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Definitely a step too far.
I only want one change then im happy, Lambie or Donald needs improving on then I have finished but can't seem to get rid of one of them.
I need a better 10.
I only want one change then im happy, Lambie or Donald needs improving on then I have finished but can't seem to get rid of one of them.
I need a better 10.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
If I were to get my hands on Steyn and Hook would you be willing to do a deal for Nonu/Fourie?
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
ok shall we do that deal then, think I am ok with it . . .
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
It suggested the Chiefs?
CJB- Posts : 5762
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Re: Saracens
I've kind of been shafted by Bear, so mate;
Lawes + Palmer + Ayerza + Ansbro + Heymans
=
Nallet + Thion + Parr + Kahui + Halfpenny
Sound okay?
Lawes + Palmer + Ayerza + Ansbro + Heymans
=
Nallet + Thion + Parr + Kahui + Halfpenny
Sound okay?
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Re: Saracens
I'm just about to respond to your message!
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Re: Saracens
you not interested in the bekker deal anymore?
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
I'd be happy with Heymans going, but would we be able to cancel the Ayerza part then?
I think people rate the England combo highly, it's very effective.
What do you say?
I think people rate the England combo highly, it's very effective.
What do you say?
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ah well you see . . .
Was thinking about if we did the bekker deal.
YOu see I loose Bekker, move jones to LK back up, then have Easter as Backrow back up, and get hte backs int eh bekker deal we do!
does that make sense?
but looks like your doing a differnt deal now
Was thinking about if we did the bekker deal.
YOu see I loose Bekker, move jones to LK back up, then have Easter as Backrow back up, and get hte backs int eh bekker deal we do!
does that make sense?
but looks like your doing a differnt deal now
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
Post can't be deleted but you know.
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GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
we ended up waiting on
Bekker + Traille
4
Halfpenny + Kahui
i promise i didn't edit that
Bekker + Traille
4
Halfpenny + Kahui
i promise i didn't edit that
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
Okay then if we're keeping Ayerza, it would have to Evans not Heymans.
I'll let you canvas opinion for the locks, but in my eyes it's better than what you;ve got
I'll let you canvas opinion for the locks, but in my eyes it's better than what you;ve got
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Re: Saracens
Sorry to say this again but as you will have one of them on the bench.
Anything for Maitland or Halfpenny?
Anything for Maitland or Halfpenny?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Lobbe + Tuilagi/Visser
4
Waldrom + Halfpenny
Lobbe is massive, but rather improve my flankers rather than loose out.
My next target domestic wise is a winger, so might cause some rifts trying to get one.
Lambie is for sale at a cut price of 18 million if anybody wants him, will try and sign O'Gara or Jones from the foreigns when I have money.
Then make a tweak at flanker and see where that brings me.
So three positions basically.
4
Waldrom + Halfpenny
Lobbe is massive, but rather improve my flankers rather than loose out.
My next target domestic wise is a winger, so might cause some rifts trying to get one.
Lambie is for sale at a cut price of 18 million if anybody wants him, will try and sign O'Gara or Jones from the foreigns when I have money.
Then make a tweak at flanker and see where that brings me.
So three positions basically.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Thion & Halfpenny/Maitland
4
Deacon & Tuilagi/Visser
As one of them is on the bench, and you seem to be keen on Deacon it works out?
4
Deacon & Tuilagi/Visser
As one of them is on the bench, and you seem to be keen on Deacon it works out?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
dude i assume our bekker deal is a no go then?
I could do with knowing as if so I will cancel my foriegn bid
cheers
I could do with knowing as if so I will cancel my foriegn bid
cheers
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
How do you want your prediction bonus to be split? £1.5 mil each or £3 mil to one?
At the moment I've done £3 mil to Saracens.
At the moment I've done £3 mil to Saracens.
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
Pull when I did care taking both got £3m?
CJB- Posts : 5762
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Re: Saracens
Fair one, I've added to both
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
I am tempted by that but think I would still need cover at backrow if I did that deal.
Lets do that one for now I am ok with that.
Bekker
for
Halfpenny & £3 mil
Cheers
Lets do that one for now I am ok with that.
Bekker
for
Halfpenny & £3 mil
Cheers
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
I see you've sold off Halfpenny, therefore can anything still be done for Kahui?
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So many locks
Can I pinch one?
Can I pinch one?
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