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Saracens
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SARACENS
"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"
2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
Challenge Cup Winners
4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner
INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt
FIXTURES
Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup
Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)
Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)
League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)
MATCHDAY
FIRST TEAM SQUAD
Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)
Forwards
Backs
INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens
FINANCES
Budget: £5m
SARACENS
"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"
2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
Challenge Cup Winners
4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner
INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt
FIXTURES
Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup
Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)
Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)
League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)
MATCHDAY
Position | Strongest Squad |
1 | S.Tonga'uia |
2 | B.Du Plessis |
3 | O.Franks |
4 | L.Nallet |
5 | P.Albacete |
6 | R.Elsom |
7 | S.Burger |
8 | S.Parisse |
9 | J.Cowan |
10 | N.Evans |
11 | H.Gear |
12 | M.Nonu |
13 | J.Fourie |
14 | D.Mitchell |
15 | I.Toeava |
16 | R.Roncero |
17 | P.Dixon |
18 | R.M-Chluski |
19 | M.Bergamasco |
20 | R.Wigglesworth |
21 | B.James |
22 | C.Heymans |
FIRST TEAM SQUAD
Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)
Forwards
Name | Position | Nationality | Squad Status | Value |
Soane Tonga'uia | LH | Tonga | Key Player | |
Rodrigo Roncero | LH | Arg | First Team | |
Wyatt Crockett | LH | NZ | First Team | |
Owen Franks | TH/LH | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Matt Stevens | TH/LH | Eng | First Team | INJ |
Bismarck Du Plessis | HK | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Pieter Dixon | HK | Zimb | Back Up | £10m |
Lionel Nallet | LK | France | Key Player | |
Patricio Albacete | LK | Argentina | Key Player | |
Romain Millo-Chluski | LK | France | First Team | |
Julien Pierre | LK | France | Rotation | |
Rocky Elsom | BS/N8 | Australia | Invaluable | |
Schalk Burger | OS/BS/N8 | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Sergio Parisse | N8 | Italy | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Mirco Bergamasco | OS/BS | Italy | First Team | |
Wycliff Palu | N8/BS | Australia | First Team | |
Thomas Waldrom | N8/BS | NZ | Rotation | £18m |
Matt Todd | OS/BS | NZ | Rotation |
Name | Position | Nationality | Squad Status | Value |
Jimmy Cowan | SH | NZ | Key Player | |
Richard Wigglesworth | SH | England | First Team | £14m |
Nick Evans | FH | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Butch James | FH/IC | SA | Rotation | |
Ma'a Nonu | IC/OC/WG | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Jacque Fourie | OC/IC/WG | SA | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Brad Barritt | IC | England | Rotation | |
Hosea Gear | WG | NZ | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Drew Mitchell | WG/FB | Aus | Invaluable | Not For Sale |
Isaia Toeava | FB/WG/OC | NZ | Key Player | |
Cedric Heymans | WG/FB | France | First Team | |
Ben Smith | FB/WG | NZ | First Team | |
INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens
FINANCES
Budget: £5m
Last edited by Bathite on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 23:16; edited 143 times in total
Bathite- Posts : 8468
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Re: Saracens
well I am still going for easter as I wont haev any LK or back row on the bench otherwise! so its needed
cheers for teh deal though bud
cheers for teh deal though bud
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
The obvious offer would be:
Boric + AWJ
=
Russouw + Hooper
Gives you a french and SA partnership in the engine room
Boric + AWJ
=
Russouw + Hooper
Gives you a french and SA partnership in the engine room
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
I'd need another gain to lose AAC mate, one of my fav players
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Re: Saracens
Would need Nallet + a gain for Thorn. Not much chance of Castro with Kub as a replacement
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
I'll leave it bud. AWJ isn't good enough to lose a world class player over
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Re: Saracens
'Was only 2places at most behind castro on rankings as well.'
Not sure about that. Castro is streets ahead of Kub.
What would you need for:
Russouw + ?
=
Nallet + ?
Not sure about that. Castro is streets ahead of Kub.
What would you need for:
Russouw + ?
=
Nallet + ?
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
Steyn + Ansbro
=
Toeava + Kahui
Enq
=
Toeava + Kahui
Enq
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Re: Saracens
Nallet + Maitland
=
Rokococko + Russouw
enq
=
Rokococko + Russouw
enq
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
I take it you've that Stephen Donald (Duck) has joined Bath. I'm even more tempted to get a season ticket next year considering some of the signings they made.
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Re: Saracens
dude I didn't quote you - think you meant that for blogs . . . . sorry bear
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
t's the best bench in the league by miles. But will it win games?
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I would hope people take the bench into account - I do. If a team has a weaker bench than the opposition then it certainly has an effect on the match for me.
I have a rather long process for working out results:
1. Home side gets points for home advantage
2. each player is marked against each other, 0-0 for matching players, 1-0 for a better player and 2 - 0 for a complete mismatch ie. Christian Day v Victor Matfield.
3. each combo position gets a score, similar to the players score, positions being 1,2,3 - 4,5 - 6,7,8 - 9,10 - 11,12,13,14,15 - a good combo will beat two good players. For example Thion & Nallet as a combo will get a point but they might loose out on points against their opposition as individual players.
4. The pack as a unit and the backs as a unit then get separate points.
5. AND finally the bench. points for a full bench, points for cover in all positions and then each sub is given a point if they are imo an impact player.
wooooooot there you go - I don't just sit around and make stuff up - of course the results are still down to my personal opinion but its a good system that works for me, its also why sometimes people may think why did that team loose to that team!!
so in answer, I hope my subs make a difference, think all my subs are imapct players
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I would hope people take the bench into account - I do. If a team has a weaker bench than the opposition then it certainly has an effect on the match for me.
I have a rather long process for working out results:
1. Home side gets points for home advantage
2. each player is marked against each other, 0-0 for matching players, 1-0 for a better player and 2 - 0 for a complete mismatch ie. Christian Day v Victor Matfield.
3. each combo position gets a score, similar to the players score, positions being 1,2,3 - 4,5 - 6,7,8 - 9,10 - 11,12,13,14,15 - a good combo will beat two good players. For example Thion & Nallet as a combo will get a point but they might loose out on points against their opposition as individual players.
4. The pack as a unit and the backs as a unit then get separate points.
5. AND finally the bench. points for a full bench, points for cover in all positions and then each sub is given a point if they are imo an impact player.
wooooooot there you go - I don't just sit around and make stuff up - of course the results are still down to my personal opinion but its a good system that works for me, its also why sometimes people may think why did that team loose to that team!!
so in answer, I hope my subs make a difference, think all my subs are imapct players
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
blimey I just read that back, did any of it make sense
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
hmmmm maybe I have too much tim eon my hands . . . right am going out!!! into the real world . . . time to face my agrophobia . . .
oo enjoy Holland . . . work or pleasure?
oo enjoy Holland . . . work or pleasure?
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
AAC + Pape + Pierre + Delon + Zirakashvilli
for
Kahui + Boric + AWJ + Toeava + Parr?
for
Kahui + Boric + AWJ + Toeava + Parr?
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Re: Saracens
AAC + Pape + Pierre
for
Kahui + Boric + AWJ
Ok, I could do that
for
Kahui + Boric + AWJ
Ok, I could do that
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Re: Saracens
should we start looking for a new manager - don't think you will be coming back alive!
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
How about
Stevens + AAC
for
Franks + Hape
Stevens + AAC
for
Franks + Hape
Driver- Posts : 11038
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Re: Saracens
AAC
=
Steyn
Enq
=
Steyn
Enq
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Re: Saracens
ok chap - might be up for an aac - hari type deal if your on for it?
Hari/Easter & Strettle/Henson/Bendy
for
AAC & Waldrom/Thion/stevens
don't know what do you think?
Hari/Easter & Strettle/Henson/Bendy
for
AAC & Waldrom/Thion/stevens
don't know what do you think?
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
they left their passport - what a nobber! hope its not the start of things to come for the trip
er nah not doing halfpenny, everyone is going on about how I need to build my backs up . . . anyway certainly not for joubert.
might be up for just
Hari
4
AAC
maybe - but not sure . . .
er nah not doing halfpenny, everyone is going on about how I need to build my backs up . . . anyway certainly not for joubert.
might be up for just
Hari
4
AAC
maybe - but not sure . . .
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
Not to sure about AAC on the wing. Think it's his weakest positon! He's better at FB + OC imo
CJB- Posts : 5762
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Re: Saracens
Nallet + Maitland
=
Sivi + Russouw
Enq
=
Sivi + Russouw
Enq
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
Could we do Nallet and Gear for Sharpe and Cueto?
I reckon thats a pretty even gain each.
I reckon thats a pretty even gain each.
Steven_Sharks- Posts : 7528
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Re: Saracens
you really not have Cueto in the Eng team?
Along with Foden and Easter he is the first name on the teamsheet for England
Holds the back 4 together with the balance he offers. frees up Foden.
I'd say along with Cole he's the hardest person to replace in the England team
Along with Foden and Easter he is the first name on the teamsheet for England
Holds the back 4 together with the balance he offers. frees up Foden.
I'd say along with Cole he's the hardest person to replace in the England team
Steven_Sharks- Posts : 7528
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Re: Saracens
Would do it if Parr became Stevens , the drop between Franks and Parr is way too much
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Re: Saracens
You mentioned about taking over the media page?
Busy at work this week but will work on getting a new manager for Clermont next week. Appreciate all the help you've been putting in recently
Busy at work this week but will work on getting a new manager for Clermont next week. Appreciate all the help you've been putting in recently
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
Pape + Wriggles
=
Carrizza + Dupuy
Enq
=
Carrizza + Dupuy
Enq
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Re: Saracens
come play in the legend league mate we only need 1 more manager
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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Re: Saracens
Nallet = Russouw + £12 mil
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
and..
Thion - £14 mil
Pierre - £10 mil
Thion - £14 mil
Pierre - £10 mil
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
Yeah considering the bids above. Where do you think I need to improve though. I have £19 mil - not enough to get a foreign in so looking from within the league.
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
Russouw is tops at lock - starting for the Bulls week in week out. He's certainly no weakness. Hooper is though, agreed. Any chance of Nallet?
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
Also you mentioned doing a media page? If you don't really have the time I'll update the current one now
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Thinking of going for Mumm, covers back row as well. Trouble is I've got a small squad as it is, want to hold onto players for injury cover and a possible outside bid.
If you go to 'quote' on the media page you will have the codes - just update them.
4-5 questions for the press conference - with the next ERL side and ERL world XV two questions. I can help out each week - with rumours perhaps?
If you go to 'quote' on the media page you will have the codes - just update them.
4-5 questions for the press conference - with the next ERL side and ERL world XV two questions. I can help out each week - with rumours perhaps?
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Re: Saracens
Bathite wrote:Potential questions.........
Who are the unluckiest players not to go to WC? XV perhaps?
Who are your bolters for WC squads?
Who will win the Tri Nations?
Anything impressed you in the Churchill Cup?
Like those questions. My back three would probably fit into the Non-WC XV!!
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Re: Saracens
What for Elsom?
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Re: Saracens
Du Preez + Cole + Ansbro
=
Cowan + Franks + Hape
Enq
=
Cowan + Franks + Hape
Enq
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Lawes + Palmer + £10m
=
Nallet + Pierre + Thion
Enq
=
Nallet + Pierre + Thion
Enq
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If you look at the deal I proposed to Luke, I would realisitically need Nallet in the deal.
Nallet + Toeava
=
Steyn + Russouw.
Nallet + Toeava
=
Steyn + Russouw.
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Sounds fine mate
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Hape would be good mate.
Could I loan him instead of permanent?
Could I loan him instead of permanent?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Hape 2 million for 3 weeks?
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
Scrap Hape.
You have five locks
Can I loan one please, Pape or Pierre if none of those are injured.
Same money again 2m for 3 weeks or 3m for 3 weeks.
You have five locks
Can I loan one please, Pape or Pierre if none of those are injured.
Same money again 2m for 3 weeks or 3m for 3 weeks.
GloucesterBear- Posts : 2022
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Re: Saracens
3 weeks for 5million
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well he's still only 32 - for a prop think he's got another few years left in him, just injuries and better props out there maybe at the moment for wales.
but a decent back up . . .
but a decent back up . . .
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On reflection 12 mil is maybe a bit much. £10 mil for Pape/Pierre?
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