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Post by Bathite Wed 18 May 2011, 21:16

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SARACENS

"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"


2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
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4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner Saracens - Page 6 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 6 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 6 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 6 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 6 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 6 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=


INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt

FIXTURES

Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup

Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)

Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)

League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)



MATCHDAY


PositionStrongest Squad
1S.Tonga'uia
2B.Du Plessis
3O.Franks
4L.Nallet
5P.Albacete
6R.Elsom
7S.Burger
8S.Parisse
9J.Cowan
10N.Evans
11H.Gear
12M.Nonu
13J.Fourie
14D.Mitchell
15I.Toeava
16R.Roncero
17P.Dixon
18R.M-Chluski
19M.Bergamasco
20R.Wigglesworth
21B.James
22C.Heymans

FIRST TEAM SQUAD

Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)

Forwards
NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Soane Tonga'uiaLH
Tonga
Key Player

Rodrigo Roncero
LHArg
First Team
Wyatt CrockettLHNZFirst Team
Owen FranksTH/LHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Matt StevensTH/LHEngFirst TeamINJ
Bismarck Du PlessisHKSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Pieter DixonHKZimbBack Up£10m
Lionel NalletLKFranceKey Player
Patricio AlbaceteLKArgentinaKey Player
Romain Millo-Chluski LKFranceFirst Team
Julien PierreLKFranceRotation
Rocky ElsomBS/N8AustraliaInvaluable
Schalk BurgerOS/BS/N8SAInvaluableNot For Sale
Sergio ParisseN8ItalyInvaluableNot For Sale
Mirco Bergamasco
OS/BS
Italy
First Team

Wycliff PaluN8/BSAustraliaFirst Team
Thomas WaldromN8/BSNZRotation£18m
Matt ToddOS/BSNZRotation
Backs

NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Jimmy CowanSHNZKey Player
Richard WigglesworthSHEnglandFirst Team£14m
Nick EvansFHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Butch JamesFH/ICSARotation
Ma'a NonuIC/OC/WGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Jacque FourieOC/IC/WGSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Brad BarrittICEnglandRotation
Hosea GearWGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Drew Mitchell
WG/FB
Aus
Invaluable
Not For Sale
Isaia ToeavaFB/WG/OCNZKey Player
Cedric HeymansWG/FBFranceFirst Team
Ben SmithFB/WGNZFirst Team






INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens

FINANCES
Budget: £5m


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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:03

well I am still going for easter as I wont haev any LK or back row on the bench otherwise! so its needed Smile

cheers for teh deal though bud Smile

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:04

What fot AWJ?

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Post by pullthestrings Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:06

The obvious offer would be:

Boric + AWJ
=
Russouw + Hooper

Gives you a french and SA partnership in the engine room thumbsup

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:11

I'd need another gain to lose AAC mate, one of my fav players OK

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Post by pullthestrings Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:15

Would need Nallet + a gain for Thorn. Not much chance of Castro with Kub as a replacement OK

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:18

I'll leave it bud. AWJ isn't good enough to lose a world class player over OK

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Post by pullthestrings Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:27

'Was only 2places at most behind castro on rankings as well.'

Not sure about that. Castro is streets ahead of Kub.

What would you need for:

Russouw + ?
=
Nallet + ?

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Post by Fluxy Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:32

Steyn + Ansbro
=
Toeava + Kahui

Enq

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Post by pullthestrings Thu 09 Jun 2011, 12:53

Nallet + Maitland
=
Rokococko + Russouw

enq

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Post by Fluxy Thu 09 Jun 2011, 14:35

I take it you've that Stephen Donald (Duck) has joined Bath. I'm even more tempted to get a season ticket next year considering some of the signings they made.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 09 Jun 2011, 18:49

dude I didn't quote you - think you meant that for blogs . . . . sorry bear Wink

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 10 Jun 2011, 09:49

t's the best bench in the league by miles. But will it win games?
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I would hope people take the bench into account - I do. If a team has a weaker bench than the opposition then it certainly has an effect on the match for me.

I have a rather long process for working out results:
1. Home side gets points for home advantage
2. each player is marked against each other, 0-0 for matching players, 1-0 for a better player and 2 - 0 for a complete mismatch ie. Christian Day v Victor Matfield.
3. each combo position gets a score, similar to the players score, positions being 1,2,3 - 4,5 - 6,7,8 - 9,10 - 11,12,13,14,15 - a good combo will beat two good players. For example Thion & Nallet as a combo will get a point but they might loose out on points against their opposition as individual players.
4. The pack as a unit and the backs as a unit then get separate points.
5. AND finally the bench. points for a full bench, points for cover in all positions and then each sub is given a point if they are imo an impact player.

wooooooot there you go - I don't just sit around and make stuff up - of course the results are still down to my personal opinion but its a good system that works for me, its also why sometimes people may think why did that team loose to that team!! Smile

so in answer, I hope my subs make a difference, think all my subs are imapct players Smile

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 10 Jun 2011, 09:51

blimey I just read that back, did any of it make sense Smile

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 10 Jun 2011, 09:56

hmmmm maybe I have too much tim eon my hands . . . right am going out!!! into the real world . . . time to face my agrophobia . . .

oo enjoy Holland . . . work or pleasure?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 10 Jun 2011, 11:04

AAC + Pape + Pierre + Delon + Zirakashvilli
for
Kahui + Boric + AWJ + Toeava + Parr?

OK

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 10 Jun 2011, 11:39

AAC + Pape + Pierre
for
Kahui + Boric + AWJ

Ok, I could do that OK

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 10 Jun 2011, 12:04

should we start looking for a new manager - don't think you will be coming back alive! Smile

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Post by Driver Fri 10 Jun 2011, 16:49

How about

Stevens + AAC

for

Franks + Hape
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Post by Fluxy Fri 10 Jun 2011, 16:53

AAC
=
Steyn

Enq

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Post by Driver Fri 10 Jun 2011, 17:43

No problem

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 10 Jun 2011, 17:59

ok chap - might be up for an aac - hari type deal if your on for it?

Hari/Easter & Strettle/Henson/Bendy
for
AAC & Waldrom/Thion/stevens

don't know what do you think?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 10 Jun 2011, 18:43

they left their passport - what a nobber! hope its not the start of things to come for the trip Smile

er nah not doing halfpenny, everyone is going on about how I need to build my backs up . . . anyway certainly not for joubert.

might be up for just

Hari
4
AAC


maybe - but not sure . . .

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Post by CJB Fri 10 Jun 2011, 19:17

Not to sure about AAC on the wing. Think it's his weakest positon! He's better at FB + OC imo

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Post by pullthestrings Fri 10 Jun 2011, 23:07

Nallet + Maitland
=
Sivi + Russouw

Enq OK

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 11 Jun 2011, 16:53

Could we do Nallet and Gear for Sharpe and Cueto?

I reckon thats a pretty even gain each.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 13 Jun 2011, 11:08

you really not have Cueto in the Eng team?

Along with Foden and Easter he is the first name on the teamsheet for England

Holds the back 4 together with the balance he offers. frees up Foden.

I'd say along with Cole he's the hardest person to replace in the England team

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Post by Driver Mon 13 Jun 2011, 13:44

Would do it if Parr became Stevens , the drop between Franks and Parr is way too much
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Post by Driver Mon 13 Jun 2011, 15:36

Confirmed it mate
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Post by pullthestrings Tue 14 Jun 2011, 22:58

You mentioned about taking over the media page?

Busy at work this week but will work on getting a new manager for Clermont next week. Appreciate all the help you've been putting in recently OK

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Post by Fluxy Wed 15 Jun 2011, 10:50

Pape + Wriggles
=
Carrizza + Dupuy

Enq

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 16 Jun 2011, 18:48

come play in the legend league mate Smile we only need 1 more manager Smile

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Post by pullthestrings Fri 17 Jun 2011, 10:27

Nallet = Russouw + £12 mil OK

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Post by pullthestrings Fri 17 Jun 2011, 10:30

and..

Thion - £14 mil
Pierre - £10 mil

Ok!

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Post by pullthestrings Sat 18 Jun 2011, 09:48

Yeah considering the bids above. Where do you think I need to improve though. I have £19 mil - not enough to get a foreign in so looking from within the league.

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Post by pullthestrings Sat 18 Jun 2011, 10:49

Russouw is tops at lock - starting for the Bulls week in week out. He's certainly no weakness. Hooper is though, agreed. Any chance of Nallet?

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Post by pullthestrings Sat 18 Jun 2011, 10:51

Also you mentioned doing a media page? If you don't really have the time I'll update the current one now OK

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Post by pullthestrings Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:00

Thinking of going for Mumm, covers back row as well. Trouble is I've got a small squad as it is, want to hold onto players for injury cover and a possible outside bid.

If you go to 'quote' on the media page you will have the codes - just update them.

4-5 questions for the press conference - with the next ERL side and ERL world XV two questions. I can help out each week - with rumours perhaps?

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Post by pullthestrings Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:14

Bathite wrote:Potential questions.........

Who are the unluckiest players not to go to WC? XV perhaps?
Who are your bolters for WC squads?
Who will win the Tri Nations?
Anything impressed you in the Churchill Cup?

Like those questions. My back three would probably fit into the Non-WC XV!!

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Post by pullthestrings Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:30

Top work!

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Post by Fluxy Sun 19 Jun 2011, 23:01

What for Elsom?

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Post by Fluxy Mon 20 Jun 2011, 20:00

Du Preez + Cole + Ansbro
=
Cowan + Franks + Hape

Enq

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Post by Fluxy Tue 21 Jun 2011, 11:52

Lawes + Palmer + £10m
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Nallet + Pierre + Thion

Enq

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 21 Jun 2011, 17:00

If you look at the deal I proposed to Luke, I would realisitically need Nallet in the deal.

Nallet + Toeava
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Steyn + Russouw.

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Post by pullthestrings Wed 22 Jun 2011, 09:29

Sounds fine mate thumbsup

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 22 Jun 2011, 13:37

Hape would be good mate.

Could I loan him instead of permanent?
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 22 Jun 2011, 14:01

Hape 2 million for 3 weeks?
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 22 Jun 2011, 14:10

Scrap Hape.

You have five locks Yahoo

Can I loan one please, Pape or Pierre if none of those are injured.

Same money again 2m for 3 weeks or 3m for 3 weeks.
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Post by GloucesterBear Wed 22 Jun 2011, 14:30

3 weeks for 5million

laughing
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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 22 Jun 2011, 15:08

well he's still only 32 - for a prop think he's got another few years left in him, just injuries and better props out there maybe at the moment for wales.

but a decent back up . . .

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Post by pullthestrings Wed 22 Jun 2011, 22:15

On reflection 12 mil is maybe a bit much. £10 mil for Pape/Pierre?

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