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Could be game of the six nations what do you think?

What would England fans see as this England's team weaknesses? Not referring to individual players but rather areas of weakness such as defense (not saying they are weak here, just an example).

GunsGerms wrote:What would England fans see as this England's team weaknesses? Not referring to individual players but rather areas of weakness such as defense (not saying they are weak here, just an example).

Nowell and May could be drawn in too narrow in defence. If Care and Vunipola can be shackled, we could see a backline devoid of spark. We are still making very basic handling errors. And defensively, Burrel could be exploited by BOD as he is not a 13 at Club level

And the customary first 5 mins where we don't seem to concentrate and the last 20 where we seem to struggle to attack (based on stats- in the last year we have scored loads of points 40-60 mins but 60-80 barely any)

Not an england fan but as above the wide defence and the ability to vary the game to suit the opposition / conditions.

the otehr thing I would do playing England would be try to rattle Farrell - he has been shown to be a bit brittle / easily rattled sometimes - send a flanker after him with a couple of big hits early on.

No real obvious weaknesses however

GunsGerms wrote:What would England fans see as this England's team weaknesses? Not referring to individual players but rather areas of weakness such as defense (not saying they are weak here, just an example).

Stupid haircuts
Sexual misconduct
Drinking
Weeing in public

oh and morgan has a big weakness for pasties

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:What would England fans see as this England's team weaknesses? Not referring to individual players but rather areas of weakness such as defense (not saying they are weak here, just an example).

Stupid haircuts
Sexual misconduct
Drinking
Weeing in public

oh and morgan has a big weakness for pasties

Just a normal saturday night on the town. isn't it,   

TJ wrote:Not an england fan but as above the wide defence and the ability to vary the game to suit the opposition / conditions.

the otehr thing I would do playing England would be try to rattle Farrell - he has been shown to be a bit brittle / easily rattled sometimes - send a flanker after him with a couple of big hits early on.

No real obvious weaknesses however

But then that flanker is committing early and not marking Vunipola/Care...

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:What would England fans see as this England's team weaknesses? Not referring to individual players but rather areas of weakness such as defense (not saying they are weak here, just an example).

Stupid haircuts
Sexual misconduct
Drinking
Weeing in public

oh and morgan has a big weakness for pasties

Stupid haircuts - Heaslip
Sexual conduct - CM
Drinking - Take your pick.
weeing in public - Munster christmas party a few years back. Cant name names.

we have our own chancers.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:What would England fans see as this England's team weaknesses? Not referring to individual players but rather areas of weakness such as defense (not saying they are weak here, just an example).

Stupid haircuts
Sexual misconduct
Drinking
Weeing in public

oh and morgan has a big weakness for pasties

A tad mean-spirited, and more than a tad unfair.

Except the haircut. That is still indubitably true

GunsGerms wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:What would England fans see as this England's team weaknesses? Not referring to individual players but rather areas of weakness such as defense (not saying they are weak here, just an example).

Stupid haircuts
Sexual misconduct
Drinking
Weeing in public

oh and morgan has a big weakness for pasties

Stupid haircuts - Heaslip
Sexual conduct - CM
Drinking - Take your pick.
weeing in public - Munster christmas party a few years back. Cant name names.

we have our own chancers.

So you think Irelands best chance is to win the pasty count?

Havent a hope of winning that with the Vunapolas and Morgan. Mike Ross will give it a go though.

Execution and decision making in attacking situations. We're making loads of yards and creating space and opportunities, but not turning them into enough tries. Farrell tends to try the crossfield kick a couple of phases too early and our carriers can get isolated. Must not happen against the Irish back row + Best and BOD

England will come at us like a raging bull.  They'll do what they've done in two games now.... pace the game away from the opposition.

Ireland will have their tea and prawn sandwiches at half time and work out how to respond to it by the second half.  

It could be as lacking in spark as the Welsh v Irish game.  Let's learn the lessons - don't over hype this one.

GunsGerms wrote:What would England fans see as this England's team weaknesses? Not referring to individual players but rather areas of weakness such as defense (not saying they are weak here, just an example).

In the past couple of years our first tackles have been poor (might be mainly due to Ashton). The scramble defence has been good and got us out of problems we shouldn't have been in. I also see an inability to think for themselves. Often keep playing the same way until half time even if it's not working. Until the coaches can tell them what to do (has been a problem for a long time and not just with English).

The defence has been better (since Ashton was dropped) so I go for changing things up at half time so it's too late for England to make the change. Also our kicking out of hand has been pretty poor in the past.

Englands biggest weakness is their arrogance, I thought we'd already established that?

Keep it close for the trademarked auto-substitutions on the 58th minute mark, and watch as we implode in the last 20?

No.. our over-confidence is a bigger hurdle to cross Peter. You'll kill us with arrogance on the field.

Anyone see Cian Healy slap Warburton on the face in the Ireland v Wales game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF6ntUyA3lk

GunsGerms wrote:Anyone see Cian Healy slap Warburton on the face in the Ireland v Wales game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF6ntUyA3lk

Cian Healy acting like a common thug again?

Tut tut. Not enough to be cited for though.

Duty281 wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:Anyone see Cian Healy slap Warburton on the face in the Ireland v Wales game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF6ntUyA3lk

Cian Healy acting like a common fairly uncommon thug again?

Tut tut. Not enough to be cited for though.

Nothing common about Healy. Freak of nature. Don't mess with him.

Accidental surely? No one complained

GunsGerms wrote:Anyone see Cian Healy slap Warburton on the face in the Ireland v Wales game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF6ntUyA3lk

Yes...we talked about that here with those I watched it with.  Head in the wrong place, Healy has to bind.  Upper cut.  Surprise connect.  It seemed a light enough brush but Warburton really felt it.  Healy doesn't know his own strength.  

But now looking at it again I see that Warburton mightn't have been so innocent and in keeping his head close to Adam's waist he had the potential to disrupt Healy's bind.  Healy was maybe letting him know "I'm still coming through, whether you're there or not"

Yeah, I remember seeing that. Looked very painful. Ouch.

Robshaw's quiff will protect him from that kind of treatment

Robshaw has flaws but he is made of iron where Warbs is glass. A smack on the head won't hurt him

Healy is a psychopath and should be locked up.

Healy Slap

Feckless Rogue wrote:Healy is a psychopath and should be locked up.

Healy Slap

I knew it was going to be that clip!

TJ wrote:Accidental surely?  No one complained

There is no way whatsoever that was accidental. But it's (edit: not) enough to worry about.

Cyril wrote:

Feckless Rogue wrote:Healy is a psychopath and should be locked up.

Healy Slap

I knew it was going to be that clip!

Love that clip.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Englands biggest weakness is their arrogance, I thought we'd already established that?

Christ! and he's on our side. I think.   

OK, we've done that bit now, what about the Ireland weaknesses? What are they and how can we smash the hell out of 'em.

Put a dozen barrels of whiskey on the pitch, get someone to hold down Care, then let them drink themselves into a stupor

ChequeredJersey wrote:Put a dozen barrels of whiskey on the pitch, get someone to hold down Care, then let them drink themselves into a stupor

They were drunk whilst playing Wales. Try again fellas

Ireland weakness. Usually its Munster players to be honest but there aren't too many so we are pretty strong now.

What odds on Healy getting a red card?

The guy will just be too pumped.

GunsGerms wrote:Ireland weakness. Usually its Munster players to be honest but there aren't too many so we are pretty strong now.

We're doomed. we're doomed.  

Scrumpy wrote:What odds on Healy getting a red card?

The guy will just be too pumped.

Probably shorter odds than on Lawes, Hartley or Farrell getting a red card or Care showing up pished.

He's promised to stay off the weights for the week... so that's the two Jumbo Jets that can be returned to the leasing company

GunsGerms wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:What odds on Healy getting a red card?

The guy will just be too pumped.

Probably shorter odds than on Lawes, Hartley or Farrell getting a red card.

But two of those guys try to act hard Healy is just a thug in a Irish shirt!

Walking yellow card IMO.   

Two of those are just acting............................................... hmmmm......which two I wonder.....good quiz Scrumpy. This will keep me going for 15 minutes or so. Which two?...... Hmmmmmm

Scrumpy wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:What odds on Healy getting a red card?

The guy will just be too pumped.

Probably shorter odds than on Lawes, Hartley or Farrell getting a red card.

But two of those guys try to act hard Healy is just a thug in a Irish shirt!

Walking yellow card IMO.   

Only the Munster guys are thugs, Healy went to Belvedere college don't you know. Good Jesuit student who likes to paint in his spare time. Pleasant sort of a fellow.

Scrumpy, if you're going to be a WUM you need to learn to do it better.

I've seen Hartley when he wasn't acting. I've seen Farrell hot headed..... hmmm, he's the possible actor. I've seen Lawes when he wasn't acting.

I think you mean one of them is acting. Do you Scrumpy??? Was it a trick question?

Where is the wum?

Healy is a unstable thug who happens to play rugby, thought everyone knew that!

I think the occasion will get to him.

I'd still say Ireland are favourites but only if they keep 15 on the field.

Tom wood seems to be good at winding up players like Healy.

Scrumpy wrote:I'd still say Ireland are favourites but only if they keep 15 on the field.

Tom wood seems to be good at winding up players like Healy.

If Tom wants to wind a player up...then he'll wind a player up.  And Healy might even go off.  Yellow?  Red?  Who knows.  But the likelihood is that if Tom wants to wind-up Healy...he'll be following Healy off - on a stretcher

SecretFly wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:I'd still say Ireland are favourites but only if they keep 15 on the field.

Tom wood seems to be good at winding up players like Healy.

If Tom wants to wind a player up...then he'll wind a player up.  And Healy might even go off.  Yellow?  Red?  Who knows.  But the likelihood that if Tom wants to wind-up Healy...he'll be following Healy off - on a stretcher

Marler WILL wind Healy up. He won't be able to resist, I'm afraid

I'm sure Hartley will have a little nibble

So are we saying there is going to be a good all-out fight at this one? Box-Office!!!

Hooking for fish ? In Hartley's mouth ?

Yis can hit anyone yis like, with my blessing...but just leave BOD alone.

It's his last 6N and he wants to get to the end of it, for old time's sake