Wales tour of SA

First topic message reminder :

Halfpenny is out and recent news (unknown to me) is stating that Warburton will now also miss out due to a dislocated shoulder. It doesn't look good for us going to SA without these two and with our recent away form being so bad. Personally I think it would be a good idea if we had a midweek game before the first test against a SA Provincial team, using the majority of our first team.

Who would you like to see on the plane?

Duty281 wrote:Wales just don't have the self belief against the big three Southern Hemisphere teams.

no sheeeeeet?!! thanks for letting us know.

  

No mystery about that Welshy, Welsh players lying all over and slowing the ball, Bok forwards too lazy to clear thrm, so slow ball is easy to defend

Interestingly, once again the better team is the one who has done anything it has to at the breakdown to get dominance.

When you look at south Africa's back row they are breakdown monsters to a man, compare that to a chopper, silky ball carrier and line out option = carnage!

Duty281 wrote:Wales just don't have the self belief against the big three Southern Hemisphere teams.

Or the quality to be brutally honest, Wales are just not currently good enough to compete with the big 4.

Thought the Welsh bench did a lot better when they came on, I think its time for some players to face the music.

1. James
2. Owens
3. Lee
4. AWJ
5. Evans
6. Turnbull
7. Faletau
8. Baker
9. Davies
10. Biggar
11. J Williams
12. Roberts (needs a big game)
13. Davies (stop going for grubbers)
14. Cuthbert (learn how to turn around)
15. Morgan

16. Jenkins
17. Rees
18. Jones
19. Charteris
20. Shingler
21. Hook
22. R Williams
23. L Williams

IronMike wrote:Thought the Welsh bench did a lot better when they came on, I think its time for some players to face the music.

1. James
2. Owens
3. Lee
4. AWJ
5. Evans
6. Turnbull
7. Faletau
8. Baker
9. Davies
10. Biggar
11. J Williams
12. Roberts (needs a big game)
13. Davies (stop going for grubbers)
14. Cuthbert (learn how to turn around)
15. Morgan

16. Jenkins
17. Rees
18. Jones
19. Charteris
20. Shingler
21. Hook
22. R Williams
23. L Williams

Yeah, i'd agree with that

Never going to win a game like that,Saffers entering rucks like super man, hands all in the ruck ,high tackles, pushing early at scrum time, lying all over the ball when Wales are on the try line!!! all withiut any punishment.
Roman Prat screwed us today, Saffers only give six penalties the whole match???!! and four of them in the last ten minutes.

I said watch him give a quick few penalties in the dying minutes just to appease the stats.

Watch Wales get muscled out over the next year,it looks like we are out of favour and not invited to the party!
But to be fair i could not see the RFU wanting a buoyant Welsh team entering their world cup.

IronMike wrote:Thought the Welsh bench did a lot better when they came on, I think its time for some players to face the music.

1. James
2. Owens
3. Lee
4. AWJ
5. Evans
6. Turnbull
7. Faletau
8. Baker
9. Davies
10. Biggar
11. J Williams
12. Roberts (needs a big game)
13. Davies (stop going for grubbers)
14. Cuthbert (learn how to turn around)
15. Morgan

16. Jenkins
17. Rees
18. Jones
19. Charteris
20. Shingler
21. Hook
22. R Williams
23. L Williams

agree with much.....north?

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Never going to win a game like that,Saffers entering rucks like super man, hands all in the ruck ,high tackles, pushing early at scrum time, lying all over the ball when Wales are on the try line!!! all withiut any punishment.
Roman Prat screwed us today, Saffers only give six penalties the whole match???!! and four of them in the last ten minutes.

I said watch him give a quick few penalties in the dying minutes just to appease the stats.

Watch Wales get muscled out over the next year,it looks like we are out of favour and not invited to the party!
But to be fair i could not see the RFU wanting a buoyant Welsh team entering their world cup.

   

why did Poite ping AWJ for a high tackle and miss the corker by SA on Morgan, why did he allow people to fly into rucks off their feet, and card Roberts but not Du plessis for killing the ball.

I think he just hates Wales, mate.

Scratch wrote:

IronMike wrote:Thought the Welsh bench did a lot better when they came on, I think its time for some players to face the music.

1. James
2. Owens
3. Lee
4. AWJ
5. Evans
6. Turnbull
7. Faletau
8. Baker
9. Davies
10. Biggar
11. J Williams
12. Roberts (needs a big game)
13. Davies (stop going for grubbers)
14. Cuthbert (learn how to turn around)
15. Morgan

16. Jenkins
17. Rees
18. Jones
19. Charteris
20. Shingler
21. Hook
22. R Williams
23. L Williams

agree with much.....north?

Thought North was fairly poor tonight, weak defensively and didn't offer that much in attack, its a toss up between him and Cuthbert but I don't fully believe North is fit

Scratch wrote:why did Poite ping AWJ for a high tackle and miss the corker by SA on Morgan, why did he allow people to fly into rucks off their feet, and card Roberts but not Du plessis for killing the ball.

He did ping them for a high tackle on Morgan; he played advantage then brought it back. To be fair to SA they have to bend quite low to tackle him.

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Never going to win a game like that,Saffers entering rucks like super man, hands all in the ruck ,high tackles, pushing early at scrum time, lying all over the ball when Wales are on the try line!!! all withiut any punishment.
Roman Prat screwed us today, Saffers only give six penalties the whole match???!! and four of them in the last ten minutes.

I said watch him give a quick few penalties in the dying minutes just to appease the stats.

Watch Wales get muscled out over the next year,it looks like we are out of favour and not invited to the party!
But to be fair i could not see the RFU wanting a buoyant Welsh team entering their world cup.

Agree with all of this; Wales would have won comfortably with a different ref (preferably Nigel Owens from last weekend).

James
Owens
Lee
AWJ - Just
Ball
Lydiate - just
Turnbull
Faletau
Davies
Biggar
North
Roberts
JD2
Cuthbert - on warning
Morgan

Jnekins
Rees
Jones
Evans
Baker
R Williams
Hook
L Williams

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Never going to win a game like that,Saffers entering rucks like super man, hands all in the ruck ,high tackles, pushing early at scrum time, lying all over the ball when Wales are on the try line!!! all withiut any punishment.
Roman Prat screwed us today, Saffers only give six penalties the whole match???!! and four of them in the last ten minutes.

I said watch him give a quick few penalties in the dying minutes just to appease the stats.

Watch Wales get muscled out over the next year,it looks like we are out of favour and not invited to the party!
But to be fair i could not see the RFU wanting a buoyant Welsh team entering their world cup.

I think you could shorten your name by 18 letters and get straight to the point.

  

Whatever you do don't post a team without Adam and Phillips on lesser Welsh sites.

Biltong wrote:No mystery about that Welshy, Welsh players lying all over and slowing the ball, Bok forwards too lazy to clear thrm, so slow ball is easy to defend

if the scoreline had been even slightly close there would have been 5 welsh yellow cards for this

Allty wrote:Whatever you do don't post a team without Adam and Phillips on lesser Welsh sites.  

pmme some, i don't give a Frak right now

Warren ball didn't work again then!

Scrumpy wrote:Warren ball didn't work again then!

you're as predictable and annoying as that rush you can't tell your mum about

Lancasterball not so successful either was it

bully-boy philips does fine against 3rd tier sides. doesnt cut the mustard against a SH side or top NH side anymore. if gatland had any other gameplans he would have picked someone else long ago. time for you welshies unfortunately to get used to the idea if not making it out of your group at RWC if Gatfluffer continues to favour Philips.

Scratch wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Warren ball didn't work again then!

you're as predictable and annoying as that rush you can't tell your mum about

Lancasterball not so successful either was it

he's right though. if there's one side in the world that warrenball is going to epically fail against its SA. yet he keeps trying it. how many matches vs SA without a win is it now? or Aus or NZ?

you got stuffed out of sight today, as i predicted, and the only reason the scoreline wasnt 20 points worse is that Poite took pity on your team and didnt penalise every time a welsh tackler just lay there on the wrong side of the ball.

gatball against SA = shatball

quinsforever wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Warren ball didn't work again then!

you're as predictable and annoying as that rush you can't tell your mum about

Lancasterball not so successful either was it

he's right though. if there's one side in the world that warrenball is going to epically fail against its SA. yet he keeps trying it. how many matches vs SA without a win is it now? or Aus or NZ?

you got stuffed out of sight today, as i predicted, and the only reason the scoreline wasnt 20 points worse is that Poite took pity on your team and didnt penalise every time a welsh tackler just lay there on the wrong side of the ball.

gatball against SA = shatball

breahtaking analysis and completely wrong

Warrenball depends on quick possession, spreading the defence to both sides of the pitch and direct running

We didn't even start playing it today as we lost the contact area and got slower service than we have ever had

Had we got even the slightest parity at the contact area we could have employed it and then perhaps it would have failed but since we were on the back foot all game your analysis shows a complete lack of grasping what Warrenball is whatoseevr

keep trying

To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

Willie le Roux toyed with the Welsh backline tonight, he has certainly grown in stature.

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

Yep, Wales should have beaten us, if only Poite did his job, eh?

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

you lost because Wales played crap and SA played a lot better than you, get over it.

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

you lost because Wales played crap and SA played a lot better than you, get over it.

astonishing, did you work that out all on your own?

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

you lost because Wales played crap and SA played a lot better than you, get over it.

astonishing, did you work that out all on your own?

Yeah but i had to post it though as it looks like you haven't worked it out yourself yet.

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

you lost because Wales played crap and SA played a lot better than you, get over it.

astonishing, did you work that out all on your own?

Yeah but i had to post it though as it looks like you haven't worked it out yourself yet.

well thank you, i appreciate you putting your brain cell to work on my behalf.   

good old scratch. managing to turn a sensible thread into a bitchfest and slagging match again. bravo.

wait, you tried to do it on a few other threads too but this is the only one you got any nibbles on. it's like feeding an overweight labrador. cruel but hard not to do.

Biltong wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

Yep, Wales should have beaten us, if only Poite did his job, eh?

I quite agree, he should have done his job and i disagree it would not have affected the outcome but maybe the scoreline.

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

you lost because Wales played crap and SA played a lot better than you, get over it.

astonishing, did you work that out all on your own?

Yeah but i had to post it though as it looks like you haven't worked it out yourself yet.

well thank you, i appreciate you putting your brain cell to work on my behalf.   

Well we all have lend a helping hand for you, your posting history on here shows you never engage any brain cells.

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

you lost because Wales played crap and SA played a lot better than you, get over it.

astonishing, did you work that out all on your own?

Yeah but i had to post it though as it looks like you haven't worked it out yourself yet.

well thank you, i appreciate you putting your brain cell to work on my behalf.   

Well we all have lend a helping hand for you, your posting history on here shows you never engage any brain cells.

in which case why do you go to such lengths to try and score points off me with your pathetic posts? its like small man syndrome by internet

and btw genius, you need to check your grammar   

quinsforever wrote:good old scratch. managing to turn a sensible thread into a bitchfest and slagging match again. bravo.

wait, you tried to do it on a few other threads too but this is the only one you got any nibbles on. it's like feeding an overweight labrador. cruel but hard not to do.

yet you always do it so you can take as much credit as me. Yu pop up here on the welsh thread for a cheap sho tor two and to try get a rise...boring and predictable

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

you lost because Wales played crap and SA played a lot better than you, get over it.

astonishing, did you work that out all on your own?

Yeah but i had to post it though as it looks like you haven't worked it out yourself yet.

well thank you, i appreciate you putting your brain cell to work on my behalf.   

Well we all have lend a helping hand for you, your posting history on here shows you never engage any brain cells.

in which case why do you go to such lengths to try and score points off me with your pathetic posts? its like small man syndrome by internet

and btw genius, you need to check your grammar   

Think you should take a closer look at your own pathetic posts before gobbing off at others. I didn't realise we were all being tested on our grammar....... Poopie

Scratch wrote:

quinsforever wrote:good old scratch. managing to turn a sensible thread into a bitchfest and slagging match again. bravo.

wait, you tried to do it on a few other threads too but this is the only one you got any nibbles on. it's like feeding an overweight labrador. cruel but hard not to do.

yet you always do it so you can take as much credit as me. Yu pop up here on the welsh thread for a cheap sho tor two and to try get a rise...boring and predictable

You know what, i'll just block you. You provide nothing to this forum anyway.

How many more beatings will wales take before they realise that they need to move on from WarrenOBEball.

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

Biltong wrote:

George Carlin wrote:To be honest, I think that any NH team would have struggled against that Bokke pack.

I thought our pack missed the plot a number of times tonight, they weren't very accurate at all.

hard ot be accurate when you leave your feet, pin your ears back and dive into a ruck, and Du plessis was very accurate, he had hands on the ball illegally on more than one occassion

you lost because Wales played crap and SA played a lot better than you, get over it.

astonishing, did you work that out all on your own?

Yeah but i had to post it though as it looks like you haven't worked it out yourself yet.

well thank you, i appreciate you putting your brain cell to work on my behalf.   

Well we all have lend a helping hand for you, your posting history on here shows you never engage any brain cells.

in which case why do you go to such lengths to try and score points off me with your pathetic posts? its like small man syndrome by internet

and btw genius, you need to check your grammar   

Think you should take a closer look at your own pathetic posts before gobbing off at others. I didn't realise we were all being tested on our grammar....... Poopie

no i will let you do that as you clearly have wood for me     

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

quinsforever wrote:good old scratch. managing to turn a sensible thread into a bitchfest and slagging match again. bravo.

wait, you tried to do it on a few other threads too but this is the only one you got any nibbles on. it's like feeding an overweight labrador. cruel but hard not to do.

yet you always do it so you can take as much credit as me. Yu pop up here on the welsh thread for a cheap sho tor two and to try get a rise...boring and predictable

You know what, i'll just block you. You provide nothing to this forum anyway.

that's the smart thing, took you a while but you got the clue in the end have some cake    

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

quinsforever wrote:good old scratch. managing to turn a sensible thread into a bitchfest and slagging match again. bravo.

wait, you tried to do it on a few other threads too but this is the only one you got any nibbles on. it's like feeding an overweight labrador. cruel but hard not to do.

yet you always do it so you can take as much credit as me. Yu pop up here on the welsh thread for a cheap sho tor two and to try get a rise...boring and predictable

You know what, i'll just block you. You provide nothing to this forum anyway.

that's the smart thing, took you a while but you got the clue in the end have some cake    

lol, your counting that as a win!!

How old are you!!

Scrumpy wrote:How many more beatings will wales take before they realise that they need to move on from WarrenOBEball.

 Yes what we need to do is play all our centres in every position   

You're a genius Scrumpy

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Scratch wrote:

quinsforever wrote:good old scratch. managing to turn a sensible thread into a bitchfest and slagging match again. bravo.

wait, you tried to do it on a few other threads too but this is the only one you got any nibbles on. it's like feeding an overweight labrador. cruel but hard not to do.

yet you always do it so you can take as much credit as me. Yu pop up here on the welsh thread for a cheap sho tor two and to try get a rise...boring and predictable

You know what, i'll just block you. You provide nothing to this forum anyway.

that's the smart thing, took you a while but you got the clue in the end have some cake    

lol, your counting that as a win!!

How old are you!!

um i know you won't read this as i am blocked but even if i was 6 months old i could outwit you!!

Enough scratch and nathan.

Biltong wrote:Enough scratch and nathan.

See, i knew at least one Saffa knew when refereeing was needed!

So where can wales improve?

Id start with selection

Scrumpy wrote:So where can wales improve?

I would respond but since i know you are just looking to serve up another tumbleweed i will refrain.