Wales tour of SA

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Halfpenny is out and recent news (unknown to me) is stating that Warburton will now also miss out due to a dislocated shoulder. It doesn't look good for us going to SA without these two and with our recent away form being so bad. Personally I think it would be a good idea if we had a midweek game before the first test against a SA Provincial team, using the majority of our first team.

Who would you like to see on the plane?

card SA number 2!!!!!!!

same guy twice in a row in the same place.

Taylorman wrote:

Biltong wrote:To be fair it is only the SA backrow and Serfontein that boshes, the rest are running at the gaps.

the young boks will be getting motivation from this somewhere up in Auckland for the semi later on biltong. Think theyll be allowed up on a school day?

Not a school day, is it?

SecretFly wrote:As all eyes are on the three battle rumble between England and New Zealand, it's actually South Africa that look like they're growing and growling into the team to beat.

Menacing stuff...brutally physical

yeah we arent ready for SA just yet. After England and Oz/ Argie we will be though. We get a good draw that way. On paper this bok side is massive. Looks like theyve realised that onto the field well enough.

Was about to say at least our lineout has been going well...

Biltong wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

Biltong wrote:To be fair it is only the SA backrow and Serfontein that boshes, the rest are running at the gaps.

the young boks will be getting motivation from this somewhere up in Auckland for the semi later on biltong. Think theyll be allowed up on a school day?

Not a school day, is it?

work day should I say. Its a long wait till 7.30 tonight. geez...was that a forward pass?

Bad luck boys, school boy error.

What a tackle by Serfontein!

such a shame...forward pass

anyway, no more mike no-pace philips pls. qed.

Bye bye Mike philipps thanks for your service

Gareth Davies gets over the line every game he plays, unfortunately it looked forward to me

rees looked inside. should have looked outside. support runner and no tackler. unlucky. great, great break.

Clearing out is laughable

Okay - sifting through wreckage (already). Surely Gareth Davies has to take Mike Phillips place. Cuthbert has to be dropped until he can find some form again. It can't get any worse - tempted to just play entire team of next gen for 2nd test to see who stands out.

Okay - sifting through wreckage (already). Surely Gareth Davies has to take Mike Phillips place. Cuthbert has to be dropped until he can find some form again. It can't get any worse - tempted to just play entire team of next gen for 2nd test to see who stands out.

Yeah!!!!

Josh Turnbull cleared someone out!!!

Victoria Cross in the next honours list

MarcusHalberstram wrote:Okay - sifting through wreckage (already). Surely Gareth Davies has to take Mike Phillips place. Cuthbert has to be dropped until he can find some form again. It can't get any worse - tempted to just play entire team of next gen for 2nd test to see who stands out.

Agree, Jordan Williams on the wing, Davies at FH, Ball for Charteris, Turnball for Lydiate and I would consider starting Morgan or Hook at FB over Williams

Apparently Lions hangover is to blame... Great pity for teams from the isles. If they tour next year, they have an eye on the word cup, the year after they have world cup hangover, the following year is a Lions tour, and the year after is a Lions hangover...

Easiest thing in the world, failure, especially when you keep having reasonable an excuse.

Why on earth do we play our best rugby at 65 minutes when 29pts down?

SA bit lucky there - steyn was using his hands first

Apparently Lions hangover is to blame... Great pity for teams from the isles. If they tour next year, they have an eye on the word cup, the year after they have world cup hangover, the following year is a Lions tour, and the year after is a Lions hangover...

Easiest thing in the world, failure, especially when you keep having reasonable an excuse.

oh dear, morne Frak steyn...can't see biggar/hook doing that

kingraf wrote:Apparently Lions hangover is to blame... Great pity for teams from the isles. If they tour next year, they have an eye on the word cup, the year after they have world cup hangover, the following year is a Lions tour, and the year after is a Lions hangover...

Easiest thing in the world, failure, especially when you keep having reasonable an excuse.

do you normally need to say/post twice to get your point across....must be a hell of a hangover

Seriously, every time we have kicked the ball something bad happens. That is the 3rd time JD2 has just kicked into the SA players

nice try.

Some of these boks would have met Victoria too. Way too much experience in this side for Wales to handle. Only way to beat this side is to run them ragged.

Good try Cuthbert.

MarcusHalberstram wrote:Okay - sifting through wreckage (already). Surely Gareth Davies has to take Mike Phillips place. Cuthbert has to be dropped until he can find some form again. It can't get any worse - tempted to just play entire team of next gen for 2nd test to see who stands out.

Found it!!!!!

When Cuthbert gets going, he really is hard to stop.

Alex Cuthbert, well done

Too little, too late

Amazing he's actually human, Le roux missed a tackle for cuthbert's try!

who gets dropped

charteris, adam, gethin, shingler, philipps, liam williams...to name but a few!!

Taylorman wrote:Some of these boks would have met Victoria too. Way too much experience in this side for Wales to handle. Only way to beat this side is to run them ragged.

Good try Cuthbert.

its not like wales lack experience either, North has 40 odd caps
it is just ridiculously poor and that try covers some of the cracks, the scoreline is far to close in terms of reflecting this match and SA dominance

Scratch wrote:

kingraf wrote:Apparently Lions hangover is to blame... Great pity for teams from the isles. If they tour next year, they have an eye on the word cup, the year after they have world cup hangover, the following year is a Lions tour, and the year after is a Lions hangover...

Easiest thing in the world, failure, especially when you keep having reasonable an excuse.

do you normally need to say/post twice to get your point across....must be a hell of a hangover

Seems to happens quite often when I type from the mobile. Normally delete the second one sharpish, but this thread is too fast to cover up such errors.

brennomac wrote:Amazing he's actually human, Le roux missed a tackle for cuthbert's try!

He isn't a great tackler, that is a weakness in his game. However his strengths massively outweigh his weakness.

Never thought much of Morgan as a 10, very electric, but no overall control - as a 15 however, he has been very good over the last few weeks.

I think Gatland could well start him next week

Fair play - good try from Cuthbert - but who the hell cares now!

We should probably pick Morgan next week - the saffers have to bend down to tackle him!

kingraf wrote:

Scratch wrote:

kingraf wrote:Apparently Lions hangover is to blame... Great pity for teams from the isles. If they tour next year, they have an eye on the word cup, the year after they have world cup hangover, the following year is a Lions tour, and the year after is a Lions hangover...

Easiest thing in the world, failure, especially when you keep having reasonable an excuse.

do you normally need to say/post twice to get your point across....must be a hell of a hangover

Seems to happens quite often when I type from the mobile. Normally delete the second one sharpish, but this thread is too fast to cover up such errors.

easiest thing in the world failure especially when you keep having reasonable an excuse

Scratch wrote:

kingraf wrote:

Scratch wrote:

kingraf wrote:Apparently Lions hangover is to blame... Great pity for teams from the isles. If they tour next year, they have an eye on the word cup, the year after they have world cup hangover, the following year is a Lions tour, and the year after is a Lions hangover...

Easiest thing in the world, failure, especially when you keep having reasonable an excuse.

do you normally need to say/post twice to get your point across....must be a hell of a hangover

Seems to happens quite often when I type from the mobile. Normally delete the second one sharpish, but this thread is too fast to cover up such errors.

easiest thing in the world failure especially when you keep having reasonable an excuse

Quite - which probably explains why I don't feel too bad about it.

hold on Roberts can step?!?!?

Very sloppy match by SA, they will need to buck up if they want to compete in the RC

wales606 wrote:Never thought much of Morgan as a 10, very electric, but no overall control - as a 15 however, he has been very good over the last few weeks.

I think Gatland could well start him next week

should and i would move l williams to wing if he stays in side at all, so much for roberts/davies centres, no intensity anywhere except from davies and morgan who set a target, no line speed, no physicality in contact, utter defeat in tackle area, no tactical kicking game, time to shake it up radically no tonly in the team but upstairs too

Wales will need to buck up if they want to be allowed to take part in the RWC!

welshy824 (new) wrote:hold on Roberts can step?!?!?

Only when we actually decide to play rugby,

We were so focussed on getting a platform to unleash our backs and fronting up to the opposition we seemed to have forgotten the whole point was to use our centres and wingers - now we play 10 man rugby....badly.

Wales just don't have the self belief against the big three Southern Hemisphere teams.

I wouldn't be too hard on them Biltong - they won the game in 25 mins.

Duty281 wrote:Wales just don't have the self belief against the big three Southern Hemisphere teams.

We just don't have to b*lls to go and throw it around like the SH teams do and see what happens - see England in NZ

who is that prat 21? what a tool

offload wrote:I wouldn't be too hard on them Biltong - they won the game in 25 mins.

Nah mate, that was poor.

Grim viewing that.

why cant we defend like that when the game is in reach?
also big 6ft 2 mike phillips cant tackle vermeulan yet little 4ft 10 Morgan can?

Lets not kid ourselves though in the 2nd half, they had no need to do anything more, game was in the bag, and clearly they eased off