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Post by It Must Be Love Sun 20 Apr 2014, 11:20 pm

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I wouldn't mind Klopp replacing Moyes, if he does leave.

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:34 am

Ent wrote:
skyeman wrote:Is it true?

Man City fans are protesting outside OT.

 Laugh 

Mind you, pelligrini ain't much better.

not sure about that ent, his first season in england he's won a trophy and got them playing some great football. add a top class cb to that team and they will be my favorites for the title next season

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Post by skyeman Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:38 am

City could still be champs yet, if Chelsea have a good weekend.

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Post by Fernando Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:38 am

Will Rooney now kick up a fuss again with his want to leave stick now that Moyes has gone. If LVG comes in RVP will be no.1

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:41 am

Fernando wrote:Will Rooney now kick up a fuss again with his want to leave stick now that Moyes has gone. If LVG comes in RVP will be no.1

couldnt care less what that mercenary wants to do, soon as he got a new contract he hasn't performed since. he's massively over rated anyway. good player when on form, awful player when not. overall good but not elite and certainly not worth the wages he's on

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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:42 am

compelling and rich wrote:
Ent wrote:
skyeman wrote:Is it true?

Man City fans are protesting outside OT.

 Laugh 

Mind you, pelligrini ain't much better.

not sure about that ent, his first season in england he's won a trophy and got them playing some great football. add a top class cb to that team and they will be my favorites for the title next season

Spent £100 million and not done well.

Let's face it, city's squad should have won this league 3 years in a row but they've had an absolute clown in Mancini in charge and Peligrini hasn't done much better.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:46 am

According to Di Marzio Mourinho has been contacted and is considering. Won't happen but Di Marzio isn't an awful source at all.

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Post by Liam Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:47 am

Will be interesting to see how van gaal sets us up next year. Exited about utd again after a dismal season. Even looking forward to seeing how giggs sets out the team in the last few games, who he picks and what they try and do. Wouldn't be surprised if he does everything exactly the same as last year in training etc, set if back to default if you like

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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:50 am

The thing about Van Gaal is he is managing at the world cup.

Leaves an awful rush to get whatever players he wants in come July.

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Post by Fernando Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:50 am

Moyes was heading for trouble soon as he turfed out the backroom staff.

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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:54 am

Fernando wrote:Moyes was heading for trouble soon as he turfed out the backroom staff.

Very revisionist that.

If you remember when I made a big deal about that everyone just said he needed his own staff etc etc

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 22 Apr 2014, 10:56 am

Hindsight wonderful, if he hadn't done it and he'd failed people would have said he wasn't his own man

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:20 am

Jose won't leave Chelsea. In a much healthier position.

Klopp will likely get a better offer from Barca, if he wants to leave at all. Van Gaal might be the best of the rest.

Will be interesting if Wenger also departs at the end of the season. Could argue thats a better job if they maintain 4th.

I thought Ancelotti with a Solksjaer type alongside him was the wise choice last summer, one of the few managers that could shoulder replacing Fergie.
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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:22 am

Martinez seems the perfect fit to replace wenger in a year or two's time. So I would think Arsernal will want wenger to stay on for another couple of years.

Man U either need a young passionate manager or an experienced one that will sort out results quick. Tough to find the second.


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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:23 am

I do think one of the mistakes Moyes made was being too hesitant. If he'd gone into the summer and made a couple of statement buys early on, the players might've swallowed his authority better. As it was he appeared ponderous and lost momentum from the word go with an aimless pursuit of Fabregas that was doomed from the start, followed by trying to reignite the Thiago deal once Pep was interested and ultimately overpaying for Fellaini.

United failed Moyes in the summer imo, Woodward might want to start looking over his own shoulder.
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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:24 am

What a pity Mourinho, Ancelotti, Guardiola haven't moved to a new club recently.

Wait... they did last summer when we needed a new manager?

What an absolute balls the club made of all this, for the supposed biggest club in the world we are run like rank amateurs at times.

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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:24 am

GSC wrote:I do think one of the mistakes Moyes made was being too hesitant. If he'd gone into the summer and made a couple of statement buys early on, the players might've swallowed his authority better. As it was he appeared ponderous and lost momentum from the word go with an aimless pursuit of Fabregas that was doomed from the start, followed by trying to reignite the Thiago deal once Pep was interested and ultimately overpaying for Fellaini.

United failed Moyes in the summer imo, Woodward might want to start looking over his own shoulder.

With no signings he still should have made the top 4.

He has only himself to blame.

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Post by Fernando Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:26 am

Ent wrote:What a pity Mourinho, Ancelotti, Guardiola haven't moved to a new club recently.

Wait... they did last summer when we needed a new manager?

What an absolute balls the club made of all this, for the supposed biggest club in the world we are run like rank amateurs at times.

The Bayern fans dislike Pep's way of playing so go make him an offer  Whistle 

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:28 am

Fernando wrote:
Ent wrote:What a pity Mourinho, Ancelotti, Guardiola haven't moved to a new club recently.

Wait... they did last summer when we needed a new manager?

What an absolute balls the club made of all this, for the supposed biggest club in the world we are run like rank amateurs at times.

The Bayern fans dislike Pep's way of playing so go make him an offer  Whistle 

imagine fletcher , carrick and jones playing tika taka  laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing 

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:30 am

By the way on a serious note- Bayern are a lesser team for me under Pep. I would be in the same camp as the bayern fans that dislike it.

It isnt as good as the quick tempo , longer passing- good movement of the high quality german or high quality PL style.

Pep plays one way- Its a great way- but he should go back to Barca where he belongs

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:34 am

Explains Peps record vs PL sides then
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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:38 am

Are you saying its good. Because from my pov he has allways seriously struggled v PL teams

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:43 am

*bar arsernal

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:46 am

He's lost 1 out of 8 ties I believe.
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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:46 am

Didn't exactly struggle against united either.

Is this, this Chelsea myth again?

I do agree that Bayern were more exciting and possibly better last year.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:46 am

United and Arsenal 3 times each, 1/2 vs Chelsea
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Post by compelling and rich Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:47 am

GSC wrote:I do think one of the mistakes Moyes made was being too hesitant. If he'd gone into the summer and made a couple of statement buys early on, the players might've swallowed his authority better. As it was he appeared ponderous and lost momentum from the word go with an aimless pursuit of Fabregas that was doomed from the start, followed by trying to reignite the Thiago deal once Pep was interested and ultimately overpaying for Fellaini.

United failed Moyes in the summer imo, Woodward might want to start looking over his own shoulder.

despite our poor summer in transfers woodward went for who moyes told him to. our revenues has increased quite a bit recently and got a feeling that the glaziers will be more than happy with that

compared to moyes who in not getting in the top 4 has cost the club millions

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:47 am

Also he's never gone out vs German teams either
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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:48 am

Do you think United would've been as aimless with Gill?
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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:49 am

GSC wrote:Also he's never gone out vs German teams either

Yes but look, Chelsea stuck 11 men behind the ball for 180 minutes and fluked a win ergo he struggles against PL teams and those of that style.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:49 am

GSC wrote:He's lost 1 out of 8 ties I believe.

he hasnt even beaten chelsea has he?

all on away goals and seriously lucky to do that in the worst display ever in regards to reffing

his team was full of talented individuals yet chelsea allways gave him issues..

Bayern are better off without him. No doubts




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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:50 am

GSC wrote:Do you think United would've been as aimless with Gill?

Moyes could have had Ronaldo and Messi in the team and still made a balls of it.

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:51 am

GSC wrote:Do you think United would've been as aimless with Gill?

its difficult to know, as gill was lucky that he worked with a manager who knew exactly what he wanted

easier job for gill than for woodward

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:51 am

A well organised team sticking 10 men behind the ball will give most teams trouble. Look at United vs Bayern
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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:51 am

So are you lot really thinking about pep at united.

He just wouldn't fit ever- The only team he would fit at is arsernal and he would never go there- Infact I would put my house on the fact that he will never manage in England.

Man U's best style and Bayerns best style were actually quite similar

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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:51 am

How you can win 2 cls in 3 years beating an english team in the final twice but struggle with English sides really, really confuses me.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:52 am

Ent wrote:How you can win 2 cls in 3 years beating an english team in the final twice but struggle with English sides really, really confuses me.

because one of those wins was criminal- chelsea beat them in the tie- it was the worst case of officiating ever

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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:53 am

No I wanted Mourinho, just pointing out Ancelotti, Guardiola, my gran were all available last summer and would have done a better job than Moyes has.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:54 am

Chelsea's win was immensely lucky as well, so what
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Post by CFCNick Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:54 am

Ent wrote:
GSC wrote:Also he's never gone out vs German teams either

Yes but look, Chelsea stuck 11 men behind the ball for 180 minutes and fluked a win ergo he struggles against PL teams and those of that style.

Well. We had ten men and came back from 2-0 down in the Nou Camp. Barcelona have beaten us once 11 v 11 and it was on away goals.

Playing strong defence isn't a fluke. It's the way to beat them. That's why Arsenal get opened up like a can of worms.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:55 am

Pep would never have gone to united though Ent.

However you certainly could have had Mourinhio

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Post by Fernando Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:55 am

Whilst we're talking about Pep. What happened to the guy he replaced Jupp Heyenckes? He'd do a job at United.

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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:56 am

mystiroakey wrote:
Ent wrote:How you can win 2 cls in 3 years beating an english team in the final twice but struggle with English sides really, really confuses me.

because one of those wins was criminal- chelsea beat them in the tie- it was the worst case of officiating ever

No it wasn't, very selective memory there.

He sent Abidal off when Anelka fell over his own feet.

Chelsea just cried as they made a mess of a 1-0 lead against 10 men. Then sent another referee death threats, classy.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:57 am

4 clear penalties not given - worst reffing performance ever

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:59 am

Clear is def selective hindsight.

Toure and Drogba had a physical battle
The last one was smashed from a yard away
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Post by Ent Tue 22 Apr 2014, 11:59 am

mystiroakey wrote:4 clear penalties not given - worst reffing performance ever

Yeah just imagining things there and buying into the hype/media storm.

1 penalty they might have got for pique hand ball, none of the rest were penalties. No stone wallers.

United had 5 (4 stone wall) turned down against Blackburn a few years back, one of those the defender handled on the line after Carrick headed a ball towards the net. All missed.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 12:00 pm

TBH if i was a United fan i wouldnt be looking for a quick soloution

Just give it to giggs and see what happens. It will be impossible to snap up a manager before the WC.


However the fact they have sacked moyes tells me they do want to make an appointment before the WC otherwise why not give him till the end of the season

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 22 Apr 2014, 12:01 pm

Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:4 clear penalties not given - worst reffing performance ever

Yeah just imagining things there and buying into the hype/media storm.

1 penalty they might have got for pique hand ball, none of the rest were penalties. No stone wallers.

United had 5 (4 stone wall) turned down against Blackburn a few years back, one of those the defender handled on the line after Carrick headed a ball towards the net. All missed.

no i saw the game. It was unbelievably bad- the worst reffing performance ever. Nothing compares- and There have been shockers this season in the PL

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Post by CFCNick Tue 22 Apr 2014, 12:02 pm

But that makes up for the dodgy ones United get.

The Barcelona game was reffed by an under experienced
Norwegian league ref because UEFA didn't want an all English final again. We all know UEFA hates the English.

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Post by Guest Tue 22 Apr 2014, 12:04 pm

mystiroakey wrote:However the fact they have sacked moyes tells me they do want to make an appointment before the WC otherwise why not give him till the end of the season

Was on Sky, saying they want a new man in place confirmed and want to copy the Manchester City way of doing things from last summer, by signing the majority of new players before the WC. If they delay, they will just lose the players to other bigger, european involved clubs. Got to act fast & turn this around with authoritative decisions.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Apr 2014, 12:04 pm

Amazing how UEFA hate one of their biggest markets and meanwhile give them 2 CL finals in 3 years
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