Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[It Must Be Love]

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I wouldn't mind Klopp replacing Moyes, if he does leave.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Wish someone could stop Jake Humphrey from tweeting. Ever

[Hammersmith harrier]

Man City 2-0 WBA - Aguerooooooooooooo (Bet that brings back even worse thoughts for United fans)

It's a hard call, but I'd prefer City winning the league over Liverpool.

It's like trying to decide between death by drowning or being burned alive.

That Aguerro goal was soon forgotten when we romped to the title the next year, always felt like it was coming anyway.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Raucous atmosphere inside the Etihad as the home fans are out sung by about 10 WBA fans

[Fernando]

what Arsenal/Spurs/Liverpool/Citeh/Chavski fans are thinking right now.

[Fernando]

Man City 3-1 West Brom -Martin Demichelis

[Dolphin Ziggler]

"City paid £39 at the Hawthorns. £15 under 17s. Tonight was £56 and a mad £34 for under 16s. £34!"

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Dortmund were lining up an official bid for Kagawa but it won't happen now as he wants to stay at #MUFC. (via @honigstein)

[FootballLight]

TTT = Typical Twitter Talk ^^

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Don't dismiss Twitter so readily, news breaks there faster than pretty much anywhere

[Hammersmith harrier]

Unless it's Guillem 'haven't got a clue' Balague then you can dismiss it almost instantaneously.

[FootballLight]

But what % of that "news" so to speak is true?

[Hammersmith harrier]

The thing with transfer rumours is that there is an element of truth to almost all of them, any one club will be scouting hundreds of players at any one time, it's just that some scouts are more recognisable than others.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

But what % of that "news" so to speak is true?

Depends who you follow. I really dont think people like Honigstein post things like that without information.

[GSC]

Only grumpy old men dismiss twitter. You just need to know where to look

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The thing with transfer rumours is that there is an element of truth to almost all of them, any one club will be scouting hundreds of players at any one time, it's just that some scouts are more recognisable than others.

And that agents, scouts, clubs etc release information to chosen sources for a variety of reasons.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Man City will have a fairly public interest in Luke Shaw just to drive his price up knowing that their rivals Man United want to sign him, it's all a big poker game really.

[The Special Juan]

Unless it's Guillem 'haven't got a clue' Balague then you can dismiss it almost instantaneously.

Hear hear!!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Man City will have a fairly public interest in Luke Shaw just to drive his price up knowing that their rivals Man United want to sign him, it's all a big poker game really.

Just like when the Bale to Utd rumour popped up last summer, simply Levy driving the price up for Madrid

[Hulking_up]

Raucous atmosphere inside the Etihad as the home fans are out sung by about 10 WBA fans

The amount of empty seats was staggering.

[Mat]

Ben Foster lolz

Had a good game. Pretty much guaranteed to be England number 2, unlucky not to be number 1 in my opinion.

[sportform]

People exaggerate how much rebuilding needs done. Moyes is making it look worse than it is.

On current form only de gea looks like a player worth retaining.

Moyes should be getting more from a side that won the championship last year and pushed Real Madrid very hard in the cl.

There is no way that squad should be finishing 7th.

Robin Van Persie was an ever present last year in the Premier League, he has only played 18 games this year. That has been a big miss for United.

I also think many of the players in the squad have known they are on the way out of the club and have played like that this year. Ed Woodward shown his incompetence in the transfer window and failed to land any of Moyes' targets other than panic buying Fellani.

I fell United should back Moyes, sack Woodward and bring in a capable CEO like David Gill or David Dein who can actual get transfers done. Fabregas was close as was Baines while Bale and Ronaldo could have been possible. That would have transformed the United team this season.

[sportform]

Man City will have a fairly public interest in Luke Shaw just to drive his price up knowing that their rivals Man United want to sign him, it's all a big poker game really.

Just like when the Bale to Utd rumour popped up last summer, simply Levy driving the price up for Madrid

I am pretty sure Man United made a genuine bid for Gareth Bale and that is was higher than what Real Madrid paid (possibly £100m). The problem was United/ Ed Woodward don't it far too late in the window. Real and Spurs had already agree the deal. Had United bid for Bale in June/ July they may have had a chance.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The Monday Night Club (or whatever its called) was very interesting on Moyes. Why give a man a six year contract with a remit to rebuild a side long term to sack him after 9-10 months? Why let Gill leave straight away? Also doing a lot to remind people of the fantastic work he did as a coach at Everton - which included making players better and making very good transfers. Suggesting there are players there who have been happy to undermine the manager, as well as players who have underperformed and should be ashamed of the result of their season.

Moyes may have fallen for this long term project being real. Whereas the long term project was based around short term goals.

[Ent]

He is stupid if he thought he had years to get the team challenging for trophies. We've won 5/7 pls including the last one.

Had he come fourth we wouldn't be having this conversation, he only had himself to blame.

[Hero]

There was a long term goal certainly that Moyes was aiming at but within that there were targets and minimum achievements along the way and it's not being unrealistic that a team that sold none of a title winning side and brought in £60m worth of Premier League players should get at least 4th place.
Yes the players have to be accountable as well for their capitulation at times, would they have played in the manner they have under SAF? I think not for fear of a football boot in the head, and I suspect many of those that put in a half shift will have had their cards marked by the upper brass as ones to be shipped out once the new manager is in.

[Ent]

I'm interested Hero, who do you think has put in "a half shift" from that squad - name some names.

[Born Slippy]

Yeah, long-term project or not a minimum performance level is still going to be expected. 7th is clearly an awful performance with a team who finished top last season. Even then, I think most United fans would have just about accepted it if there were signs of improvement and/or that there was a structure/plan being implemented.

[GSC]

RVP would be one I suspect.

[GSC]

Can probably include Evra by default for any revolution vs a manager. Vidic possibly

[Ent]

RVP would be one I suspect.

Not fit.

11 in 18 in PL, 4 in 4 in CL. Hatrick against Olympiakos in second leg after first leg disaster.

Don't buy it, any striker would be peed off with our lack of penetration and creativity.

[GSC]

The Liverpool game was Berbatov esque in nonchelance

[Ent]

Can probably include Evra by default for any revolution vs a manager. Vidic possibly

Evra has started 41 games this season and has been better than he was last year (though still not great), especially considering no one in front of him defends at all. In an interview after christmas he pinned all the blame on the players and said they needed to start winning games.

Moyes described Vidic as the best defender he had ever worked with, only for his contract to not be extended and Moyes to completely change his mind and say we didn't need him next year.

Has played in all the big games.

Our two goal scorers against Bayern.

[Ent]

The Liverpool game was Berbatov esque in nonchelance

We were awful in that game, Moyes tactics were terrible and he waited until the game was lost to change anything. Didn't create a chance. 3 days later RVP got his hatrick against Olympiakos, he's been injured since.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Moyes sacked cofirmed

[Ent]

Confirmed.

Have to say i am surprised, kinda thought it wasn't going to happen.

Feel sorry for him, wish it had gone better but it's been awful this season and a complete failure.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOT NOW FFS

We now face a rejuvenated Utd live on TV, f*cking fantastic. No goddamn stupid luck

[Ent]

Unlucky Olly,

not sure we will be much better mind.

[CFCNick]

I though Norwich would lose anyway

[compelling and rich]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOT NOW FFS

We now face a rejuvenated Utd live on TV, f*cking fantastic. No goddamn stupid luck

i really think you would have gotten at least a point at OT if moyes was still in charge, if not more. hopefully now the players can show there not as useless as there being made out to be

[Ent]

Haha Klopp not interested in the job.

What a mess the club have made of themselves.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Haha Klopp not interested in the job.

What a mess the club have made of themselves.

I wouldn't take those statements as gospel

There was a point Rodgers wasn't interested in the Liverpool job. There was a point Lambert wasn't interested in the Villa job. Managers come out with one thing and do another all the time

Plus he doesn't actually say he isn't interested. He says something about contracta

[Ent]

Haha Klopp not interested in the job.

What a mess the club have made of themselves.

I wouldn't take those statements as gospel

There was a point Rodgers wasn't interested in the Liverpool job. There was a point Lambert wasn't interested in the Villa job. Managers come out with one thing and do another all the time

Plus he doesn't actually say he isn't interested. He says something about contracta

"My commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable"

Said within an hour of Moyes being sacked, no chance of getting him.

Ah we are a laughing stock, good times.

Last summer the most important in european football ever, we hire an idiot and let all the staff go who made us a success. Well done lads.

[compelling and rich]

seeing though they have a cup final to get set for he's hardly going to stamp his interest on the job before the end of the season is he

[Ent]

Fair enough, saying you don't want the job half an hour after the previous boss has been sacked says a lot to me though.

[mystiroakey]

Don't worry Ent- Cardiff is still more laughable than you lot.

[compelling and rich]

giggs out!!

he's done nothing so far in his united managerial career   

[Ent]

giggs out!!

he's done nothing so far in his united managerial career   

I hear RVP is fit and scoring again in training.

[skyeman]

Is it true?

Man City fans are protesting outside OT.

[compelling and rich]

for me a motivated rvp on form does much more for us than a similar rooney, if the next manager can get more out of rvp we'll be better off for it. even fergie saw this

need the issue of these two playing together sorted

[Ent]

Is it true?

Man City fans are protesting outside OT.

  

Mind you, pelligrini ain't much better.

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