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Post by It Must Be Love Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:20 pm

First topic message reminder :

I wouldn't mind Klopp replacing Moyes, if he does leave.

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Post by westisbest Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:43 pm

Ah O'Neil.

The good old days.

It will be a challenge for whoever comes in.
First of all we need to sort the squad out.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:45 pm

Hero wrote:Interesting to see Fergie sat chatting with the agent of Reus and a Kroos in the stands.
If it is Van Gaal then Kroos is a player he'll know well from his Bayern days.

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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:51 pm

Thats valencias only good contribution in this game electing to give Jones the cross instead of himself

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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:00 pm

Norwich really are woeful, defensively they're all over the place.

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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:00 pm

Hero's 6-0 is well and truly on now.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:04 pm

Oh Norwich have been worse than woeful since going one down.

Nice to see Rooney warming himself up for the big event this summer, though (and I don't quite mean the summer transfer window Wink ).

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Post by Hero Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:05 pm

Hero wrote:Saints 1 Everton 1
Fulham 0 Hull 0
Stoke 1 Spurs 2
Swansea 3 Villa 1
WBA 2 West Ham 1
Man U 6 Norwich 0

Sunderland 2 Cardiff 1
Liverpool 1 Chelsea 2
Palace 2 Man City 2

Arsenal 5 Newcastle 0

5 out of the 6 Saturday games gone the way I said, only Everton deciding they preferred to score in their own net scuppered a clean sweep.

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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:10 pm

At least they were organised under Hughton

Sunderland or Cardiff will rise out of the bottom 3 with a win
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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:12 pm

Norwich at least frustrated the top teams under Hughton. Adams more positive approach never made sense given the fixtures to play
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:14 pm

Hernandez looks much slower these days. I can see him getting moved on in the summer, probably abroad.
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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:18 pm

As expected some United player have stepped their games up. That said, Norwich have been abject
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:19 pm

No confidence at all.
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:20 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Hernandez looks much slower these days.  I can see him getting moved on in the summer, probably abroad.

He'd be perfect for a Spurs or Newcastle. He'll score plenty given a run.

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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:23 pm

He needs to play in a 4-4-2 really. I could see him doing a similar job to Sturridge
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:26 pm

FreekShow wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Hernandez looks much slower these days.  I can see him getting moved on in the summer, probably abroad.

He'd be perfect for a Spurs or Newcastle. He'll score plenty given a run.

He needs to play for a team that will create for him so Spurs would be ideal. He could be their next Defoe.
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Post by Hero Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:29 pm

Offer him to Dortmund as part of a deal to get Reus, he'd be perfect there.

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Post by skyeman Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:35 pm

Duty281 wrote:Oh Norwich have been worse than woeful since going one down.

Nice to see Rooney warming himself up for the big event this summer, though (and I don't quite mean the summer transfer window Wink).


If it is Van Gaal, which now looks set in stone. I can't see him taking Rooney's crap? But both Fergie and Moye's managed so maybe he can too.

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:42 pm

On another note it's a shame to see Vidic playing his last game for the club today. A truly great United player and I'm sad to see him go but it's for the best, both for him and the club.
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Post by AberdeenSteve Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:55 pm

I'll be ecstatic to see the back of Norwich, awful club.

I am glad Hughton got the boot from there, as I believe he is better manager than Norwich and I think it's be proven by the demise of Norwich since they sacked him.

Sunderland to stay up (I hope), with Fulham, Norwich & Cardiff to go down.

Who do the people on this thread see coming up from the Championship via the Play Offs, or rather, who would you like to see come up?

Please don't be QPR!  nope 

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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:59 pm

I've a few quid on QPR winning the Play Offs Steve but won't be too bothered if they don't really!

Wouldn't mind seeing Derby and Stevie Mac back in the big time.

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Post by skyeman Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:07 pm

AberdeenSteve wrote:I'll be ecstatic to see the back of Norwich, awful club.

I am glad Hughton got the boot from there, as I believe he is better manager than Norwich and I think it's be proven by the demise of Norwich since they sacked him.

Sunderland to stay up (I hope), with Fulham, Norwich & Cardiff to go down.

Who do the people on this thread see coming up from the Championship via the Play Offs, or rather, who would you like to see come up?

Please don't be QPR!  nope 


Did you not get laid in Great Yarmouth Laugh 

Every time there, it was quite easy. Then again so was Blackpool Laugh 


Why such a beef with Norwich though? He lost the supporters just like Moyes did. Once that happens. Goodbye.

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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:11 pm

I don't really know what constitutes an awful club anyway.

There's teams that I favour above others but I don't think I hate any club, so to speak.

I can't think of anything dislikable about Norwich myself.

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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:12 pm

AberdeenSteve wrote:I am glad Hughton got the boot from there, as I believe he is better manager than Norwich and I think it's be proven by the demise of Norwich since they sacked him.

Love to see Olly read that  picard 

As for United, typical reaction & inevitable result.

Giggs - 'Antonio, just pass me the ball from five yards'. Valencia lines up the pass & smashes it.

Giggs - 'Antonio, just cross the ball & curl it in'. Valencia tries to cross the ball but instead smashes it. He does either two things, smashes a football into the box & hopes it meets a teammate or he hits into the crowd. Truly appalling.

Antonio Valencia is the worst right winger I've ever seen.  picard  picard  picard  picard  picard  picard  picard


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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:13 pm


John having a facepalm attack there.

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:18 pm

John wrote:
AberdeenSteve wrote:I am glad Hughton got the boot from there, as I believe he is better manager than Norwich and I think it's be proven by the demise of Norwich since they sacked him.

Love to see Olly read that  picard 

As for United, typical reaction & inevitable result.

Giggs - 'Antonio, just pass me the ball from five yards'. Valencia lines up the pass & smashes it.

Giggs - 'Antonio, just cross the ball & curl it in'. Valencia tries to cross the ball but instead smashes it. He does either two things, smashes a football into the box & hopes it meets a teammate or he hits into the crowd. Truly appalling.

Antonio Valencia is the worst right winger I've ever seen.  picard  picard  picard  picard  picard  picard  picard

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Post by AberdeenSteve Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:28 pm

That was not a rant on just Norwich, there are othersclubs in the EPL I'd be glad to see the back of (Fulham & Norwich). I am just of the mind set that there are clubs in the EPL that I believe are there to make up the numbers and collect their money.

With regards to Norwich, the play ugly football poorly, and their performance at Old Trafford was gutless. Watch Sunderland, that is a team that wants to stay up. I just believe there are clubs more deserving to be in the Premier League with the way the play their football and how they are run. Norwich will not be missed.

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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:31 pm

AberdeenSteve wrote:That was not a rant on just Norwich, there are othersclubs in the EPL I'd be glad to see the back of (Fulham & Norwich). I am just of the mind set that there are clubs in the EPL that I believe are there to make up the numbers and collect their money.

With regards to Norwich, the play ugly football poorly, and their performance at Old Trafford was gutless. Watch Sunderland, that is a team that wants to stay up. I just believe there are clubs more deserving to be in the Premier League with the way the play their football and how they are run. Norwich will not be missed.

Their performance today was poor, but their performance last week against Liverpool was brave and they very nearly got a good result. What's wrong with the way Norwich are run? As far as I'm aware their finances are good, they live within their means. The same can't be said for other clubs.

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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:33 pm

AberdeenSteve wrote: I am just of the mind set that there are clubs in the EPL that I believe are there to make up the numbers and collect their money.


It's been this way for as long as I can remember. There are countless clubs outside of the top division that would love to make the numbers up.


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Post by John Cregan Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:34 pm

Wonder is Norwich Chief McNally looking for a new Manager. As he said himself in February, it would be "delinquent" of the club not to be looking for who's available (and they realised the Youth team manager was available!!).

Such a ridiculous statement at the time, in my opinion, destabilised the dressing room, and surely pi**ed off the manager.

Well done McNally, your majorly responsible for relegating your club. Time for another cry??

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Post by AberdeenSteve Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:43 pm

FreekShow wrote:
AberdeenSteve wrote: I am just of the mind set that there are clubs in the EPL that I believe are there to make up the numbers and collect their money.


It's been this way for as long as I can remember. There are countless clubs outside of the top division that would love to make the numbers up.


I agree, and when they arrive in the EPL I'll be just as critical as I am with Norwich. Give me a Blackpool any day of the week.

Hampo, Norwich sacked a manager with a month or so of a season left and replaced with their youth team manager. This may have worked with a team or a club with a squad of players that have the quality to turn in the performances for someone who has very little top flight experience. Surely, you are staring at the relegation places, you have a good replacement in mind or a plan that you are certain will work. The players can't be bothered and that is all down to the poor way they treated their previous gaffer with a whole 'will they, won't they' saga. Utterly clueless.

Oh, and they thought it was a great idea to spend £8million on Ricky Van Wolfswinkel

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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:46 pm

Yeah a club with a chance to establish themselves is better than the definition of making up the numbers in Blackpool
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:48 pm

Van Wollfswinkel obviously hasn't worked out but sh!t happens. It happens at every club. You can't criticise them for just making up the numbers and then mock them for trying to make good in the form of a record signing. It's contradictory.

Blackpool had one season in the sun. Where are they now? Each to their own I suppose.

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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:49 pm

Hindsight is a wonderful thing regarding RVW, before that he had a decent strike rate for Sporting. Yes they sacked their manger too late, and should have done it a while ago. Adams is not some no hoper though, and has worked wonders with a youth team that hasn't been able to go and sign all the best young talent from abroad, and if reports are to be believed he was being groomed for a managers role in the future.

Norwich have done what they needed to do to survive, lived within their means and ensured that they haven't struggled, until this season. Nothing wrong with that and if that makes the a bad club for wanting to do everything possible then the worlds gone mad.

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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:52 pm

Regardless of Adams record it did smack of having no plan B after Hughton
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:54 pm

GSC wrote:Regardless of Adams record it did smack of having no plan B after Hughton

Unless Adams was the plan B all along. Who'll ever know?

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Post by skyeman Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:55 pm

Could happen for Sunderland but why not show the recent brilliant performances previously?

Makes no sense.

Hope they do stay up though.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:55 pm

I'm not even gonna bother replying to some of the completely inaccurate and mindless drivel that is currently being written about my club on here.

I've never been more disappointed in a Norwich City team than I was when I flicked through that game. Gutless, pathetic performance. On the back of such a great one against Liverpool

We've spent money, tried to establish ourselves this season, but unfortunately the manager firstly wasn't up to it with his poor tactics, and inability to integrate players into a system that suited them, secondly the board have handled this season appallingly (Hughton should've gone earlier, no money spent in January) and thirdly the players have been pathetic. This has led to a complete clusterf*ck of campaign, we're we've only picked up 8 points away! 8 points, Jesus

We'll go down, and one day we'll be back. We're a well run club, debt free externally (only owe a few bob to Delia), get 27,000 sell outs week in week out, so we're in a good position to make a charge next season and try again in the Prem if we get there.

Its been three years full of highs and lows, but unfortunately its all coming to an unsavoury end. But hey, it wouldn't be Norwich City if it all ended without some controversy.


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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:56 pm

FreekShow wrote:
GSC wrote:Regardless of Adams record it did smack of having no plan B after Hughton

Unless Adams was the plan B all along. Who'll ever know?

Then it would've happened before this I'd imagine.
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Post by skyeman Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:59 pm

Olly wrote:I'm not even gonna bother replying to some of the completely inaccurate and mindless drivel that is currently being written about my club on here.

I've never been more disappointed in a Norwich City team than I was when I flicked through that game. Gutless, pathetic performance. On the back of such a great one against Liverpool

We've spent money, tried to establish ourselves this season, but unfortunately the manager firstly wasn't up to it with his poor tactics, and inability to integrate players into a system that suited them, secondly the board have handled this season appallingly (Hughton should've gone earlier, no money spent in January) and thirdly the players have been pathetic. This has led to a complete clusterf*ck of campaign, we're we've only picked up 8 points away! 8 points, Jesus

We'll go down, and one day we'll be back. We're a well run club, debt free externally (only owe a few bob to Delia), get 27,000 sell outs week in week out, so we're in a good position to make a charge next season and try again in the Prem if we get there.

Its been three years full of highs and lows, but unfortunately its all coming to an unsavoury end. But hey, it wouldn't be Norwich City if it all ended without some controversy.



Well said Olly.

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Post by John Cregan Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:59 pm

GSC wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
GSC wrote:Regardless of Adams record it did smack of having no plan B after Hughton

Unless Adams was the plan B all along. Who'll ever know?

Then it would've happened before this I'd imagine.

"It would be almost delinquent of the football club to not be aware of potential candidates if for any reason your manager left.

"If results are not good enough you have to be aware of who is out there to help. You look at the market and who might be right for Norwich City.

Direct quote from Norwich Chief Exec in Feb. Appointed Youth Team Coach in April. Genius.

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Post by Fernando Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:00 pm

FreekShow wrote:
GSC wrote:Regardless of Adams record it did smack of having no plan B after Hughton

Unless Adams was the plan B all along. Who'll ever know?

If he's the Plan B then the Chief Exec is a moron considering his statements before hand about keeping options open surely they could of found someone better inside a month & a half?

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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:01 pm

I've got nothing against Norwich but they're just a bit dull.

A team like Leeds would be box office
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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:01 pm

Olly wrote:I'm not even gonna bother replying to some of the completely inaccurate and mindless drivel that is currently being written about my club on here.

I've never been more disappointed in a Norwich City team than I was when I flicked through that game. Gutless, pathetic performance. On the back of such a great one against Liverpool

We've spent money, tried to establish ourselves this season, but unfortunately the manager firstly wasn't up to it with his poor tactics, and inability to integrate players into a system that suited them, secondly the board have handled this season appallingly (Hughton should've gone earlier, no money spent in January) and thirdly the players have been pathetic. This has led to a complete clusterf*ck of campaign, we're we've only picked up 8 points away! 8 points, Jesus

We'll go down, and one day we'll be back. We're a well run club, debt free externally (only owe a few bob to Delia), get 27,000 sell outs week in week out, so we're in a good position to make a charge next season and try again in the Prem if we get there.

Its been three years full of highs and lows, but unfortunately its all coming to an unsavoury end. But hey, it wouldn't be Norwich City if it all ended without some controversy.



I'll be sad to see Norwich go if it happens Olly, as you say they're just starting to try and establish themselves as a Premier League club and if they get the right manager in place I'm sure they'll have a bright future.

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Post by AberdeenSteve Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:02 pm

Blackpool were different, probably wrong to use a club when in truth it was the manager.

Drivel? I have practically argued what you have admitted in your post mate with regards to your board and how poorly the club has been run.

If Adams has done so well with the youth squad, why spend the money they have on average players and not dip in to the youth team that has been so well coached? I have nothing on Adams, but again, shows poor management from above.

My arguement is that they are poorly ran, with a poor product on the pitch. I have the same thoughts on Cardiff and Fulham. This isn't a hate campaign on Noriwch, I liked them when Lamber was in charge.. Just not so much now.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:06 pm

Not the be all and end all but RVW had a strike record of better than a goal every other game in the fairly competitive Portuguese league, £8mil at the time seemed like a sound investment.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:07 pm

hampo171 wrote:
Olly wrote:I'm not even gonna bother replying to some of the completely inaccurate and mindless drivel that is currently being written about my club on here.

I've never been more disappointed in a Norwich City team than I was when I flicked through that game. Gutless, pathetic performance. On the back of such a great one against Liverpool

We've spent money, tried to establish ourselves this season, but unfortunately the manager firstly wasn't up to it with his poor tactics, and inability to integrate players into a system that suited them, secondly the board have handled this season appallingly (Hughton should've gone earlier, no money spent in January) and thirdly the players have been pathetic. This has led to a complete clusterf*ck of campaign, we're we've only picked up 8 points away! 8 points, Jesus

We'll go down, and one day we'll be back. We're a well run club, debt free externally (only owe a few bob to Delia), get 27,000 sell outs week in week out, so we're in a good position to make a charge next season and try again in the Prem if we get there.

Its been three years full of highs and lows, but unfortunately its all coming to an unsavoury end. But hey, it wouldn't be Norwich City if it all ended without some controversy.



I'll be sad to see Norwich go if it happens Olly, as you say they're just starting to try and establish themselves as a Premier League club and if they get the right manager in place I'm sure they'll have a bright future.

The right manager is the nail on the head Hampo.

When Lambert left, we didn't appoint a manager who was right for our football club. Chris Hughton is a nice bloke, and I'm sure he'll do well in his career elsewhere, but his style of football and what he wants to do are just the complete opposite of what Lambert did here and what Norwich City play. It just wasnt the right fit.

Hopefully we can find a manager who is the right fit, personally I'd like to see Adams given a shot as I don't think their is a great field of managers out there now. But we'll see.

Still we get to thump Ipswich twice next year, so there's a silver lining to every cloud  Very Happy 
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:08 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Not the be all and end all but RVW had a strike record of better than a goal every other game in the fairly competitive Portuguese league, £8mil at the time seemed like a sound investment.

This. Couple that with the fact that he's been starved for service pretty much the entire season and Bob's your uncle.

Imagine if no club bought bad?

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Post by Fernando Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:09 pm

All this talk about terrible signings make me miss the hilariousness that was Bebe & Kleberson.

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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:10 pm

Fernando wrote:All this talk about terrible signings make me miss the hilariousness that was Bebe & Kleberson.

Bebe will be back at United next season Very Happy

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Post by GSC Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:11 pm

I don't think United will be taking a punt on another manager unproven at the top level Hampo
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