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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:55 pm

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owen10ozzy wrote:Diego Costa for £32 million isn't looking to hot either...Chelsea could be looking at the 3 most expensive striker flops in history in Shevchenko, Torres and now Costa.

He lacks pace and mobility which for me are essential in the premiership.
Tbf this isn't the same Costa that's been playing for Atletico, a long hard season and a few injuries catching up with him here I think
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:46 pm

I've liked Murphy.

Iniesta still Spain's best player. Negredo and Navas both should have made this squad.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:46 pm

I haven't seen Torres put in a good performance for years.

He looks so poor. Poor touch, poor passes, everything is poor.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:48 pm

Vidal is quality. I would love him at United


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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:49 pm

skyeman wrote:Horrible feeling when you know your team are exiting the WC.

Don't want to be feeling that tomorrow.

We won't go out tomorrow, Skye, even if we lose. #relax

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:49 pm

Murphy's been pretty good but him and Savage sound like granddads.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:51 pm

Spain have been beyond pathetic!

What's the point of tika taka in the 80th minute. They need to get people in the box and just try their luck. Too late now.

Chile by far the better team tonight.

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Post by Ent Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:52 pm

Very disappointing from Spain, would have liked to have seen a challenge from them.

They've just made everything too complicated and haven't provided enough forward runs for their midfielders to pick out passes that advance play.

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:53 pm

Duty281 wrote:
skyeman wrote:Horrible feeling when you know your team are exiting the WC.

Don't want to be feeling that tomorrow.

We won't go out tomorrow, Skye, even if we lose. #relax


You don't think Italy would let Uruguay get the draw Smile 

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Post by GSC Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:53 pm

Did you guys know Chile have run hard today?
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:55 pm

Olly wrote:So anyways Dr Fuentes obviously hasn't come up with a good batch of drugs for the Spanish this tournament

Indeed.. and the dirty government ordered the destruction of the blood bags! How corrupt is that!

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:55 pm

Chile and Holland both through to the last sixteen, Spain and Australia out.

Now Group B is all about the battle for first place, and avoiding Brazil in the last sixteen.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:56 pm

I know they're the home team and big favourites to win the tournament, but what have Brazil shown so far that's supposed to terrify either of the teams from this group?

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Post by Ent Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:56 pm

Chile deserved winners, they've been very impressed with them.

The Dutch aren't great at the back so I think chile could well win the group. Would also fancy them to dismiss either of the group a sides.

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:00 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:I know they're the home team and big favourites to win the tournament, but what have Brazil shown so far that's supposed to terrify either of the teams from this group?

NOTHING. Thus far.

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Post by Crimey Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:02 pm

Really disappointed in Spain, not a single player lived up to their reputations. Diego Costa might have been better off playing for Brazil, does not suit the Spain side at all, whereas Brazil would be perfect for him right now.

For me this tournament should be the end of Casillas, lost his place at club level, awful performance at this tournament. He has had a fantastic career but think he has lost it. May be able to revive it with a move, but seems unlikely.

End of an era really for Spain, but they will be back, the ageing players will go such as Xavi, Alonso and there are young exciting players to replace them so it's not like they have had a golden generation with no replacements.

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:04 pm

Linekar funny, tiki taka, ta ta.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:05 pm

emancipator wrote:
Olly wrote:So anyways Dr Fuentes obviously hasn't come up with a good batch of drugs for the Spanish this tournament

Indeed.. and the dirty government ordered the destruction of the blood bags! How corrupt is that!
Dr Fuentes speaking in December 2010 said;

"If I would talk, the Spanish football team would be stripped of the 2010 World Cup"

Don't get me started on the whole blood bags thing
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:08 pm

skyeman wrote:Linekar funny, tiki taka, ta ta.

I absolutely heart him.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:09 pm

Anyways how a team who have a RB released by Nottingham forest and a midfielder relegated with Cardiff (another with osasuna) playing at CB manage to look so good is truly beyond me

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:27 pm

Even with weaker players, if a team can have that togetherness, spirit, chemistry, guts etc. They can be formiddable and a threat to better teams on the day. Glad for it.

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Post by CFCNick Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:49 pm

Very pleased with that result. Got an acca of Holland, Chile, Croatia, Colombia, England. Will probably cash out before the England game depending how high the value is.

Chile were 5/1 when I put it on.

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Post by The Special Juan Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:57 pm

One of the pundits was saying before the game that because the Spanish club teams did well in Europe, they should do well at the Euros. That's not the case - do Real and Atletico play this tika taka nonsense? No. Barcelona, the team Spain are modelled on, died a death this season. It's a massive mistake by del Bosque to continue playing a brand of football which is now ineffective. Only those Spanish players from 2008-2011 could play like that and they're either past their sell-by or are retired (except Iniesta). We'll see a tweaked Spanish team in a couple of years - their youngsters aren't too bad!! Add a handful of them with the experienced heads and they'll do well.
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Post by The Special Juan Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:02 pm

Olly wrote:
owen10ozzy wrote:Diego Costa for £32 million isn't looking to hot either...Chelsea could be looking at the 3 most expensive striker flops in history in Shevchenko, Torres and now Costa.

He lacks pace and mobility which for me are essential in the premiership.
Tbf this isn't the same Costa that's been playing for Atletico, a long hard season and a few injuries catching up with him here I think

I think he's overrated. He's had 1 good season and before last season had never scored more than 9 goals in a season. He could flourish at Chelsea but equally could be the next Hulk. Obviously we won't know until then.
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:08 pm

Bright start by Cameroon, despite some pathetic cheating on their part.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:12 pm

Spain were never going to win this world cup. But to lose 2 games, very easily no one in the world would of predicted. Incredible stuff.

Always said Chile would get out of that group, but i never thought it would be at the expense of Spain! 

Diego Costa will be a let down at Chelsea.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:12 pm

Croatia winning. My dark horses for the tournament.

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:14 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Spain were never going to win this world cup. But to lose 2 games, very easily no one in the world would of predicted. Incredible stuff.

Always said Chile would get out of that group, but i never thought it would be at the expense of Spain! 

Diego Costa will be a let down at Chelsea.


If he is, why do they sign so many flops.

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:16 pm

Should be a stroll now for Croatia, before their crunch game against Mexico where a win is imperative.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:20 pm

I don't buy this tika taka is dead nonsense

It's just not being implemented or played well, especially by Spain this tournament who seen to be a combination of the barca style trying to integrate the real style as well

No coincidence the decline of xavi has also seen the "decline of tika taka" either
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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:27 pm

Crespo, Torres, names that spring to mind.

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:29 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Crespo, Torres, names that spring to mind.

Shevchenko Wink 

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:40 pm

Thought this would have been more comfortable for Croatia. Should be now, Song off.

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:42 pm

Well done referee; pathetic by Song. Mind you, he's not the only one who had embarrassed himself tonight on the Cameroon team.

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:42 pm

Deserved the red too. Stupid.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:46 pm

Alex Song you waste of space. Waits 4 years to play in the best tournament in the world and he does that.

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Post by CFCNick Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:47 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Crespo, Torres, names that spring to mind.

Crespo isn't a flop. Look at his numbers for 05/06. Definitely not a flop.

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Post by CFCNick Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:48 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
Olly wrote:
owen10ozzy wrote:Diego Costa for £32 million isn't looking to hot either...Chelsea could be looking at the 3 most expensive striker flops in history in Shevchenko, Torres and now Costa.

He lacks pace and mobility which for me are essential in the premiership.
Tbf this isn't the same Costa that's been playing for Atletico, a long hard season and a few injuries catching up with him here I think

I think he's overrated.  He's had 1 good season and before last season had never scored more than 9 goals in a season.  He could flourish at Chelsea but equally could be the next Hulk.  Obviously we won't know until then.

Drogba only had one season in a top flight league in any country before signing for Chelsea.

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:51 pm

Croatia just need to retain possession and keep themselves in optimum condition for the must-win game against Mexico. Maybe they should just briefly rise out of second gear to put this contest out of reach...just to be safe.

And Brazil must remember to attack with width against Cameroon, and not get bunched in the middle against a compact defence.

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:53 pm

Duty281 wrote:Croatia just need to retain possession and keep themselves in optimum condition for the must-win game against Mexico. Maybe they should just briefly rise out of second gear to put this contest out of reach...just to be safe.

And Brazil must remember to attack with width against Cameroon, and not get bunched in the middle against a compact defence.


Aye, they could take a breather here and if needed go up a gear.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:53 pm

CFCNick wrote:
NickisBHAFC wrote:Crespo, Torres, names that spring to mind.

Crespo isn't a flop. Look at his numbers for 05/06. Definitely not a flop.

100% a flop. Veron as well.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:54 pm

Alex Song if you're gonna smack someone, at least smack them.

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Post by Crimey Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:54 pm

I didn't want Diego Costa at Liverpool at the start of the summer and I'm not sure if my mind has been changed. Can't see him replicating his form from last year, particularly in the Premier League. Seems too slow without a good enough physical or technical game to make up for it. Not worth £32 million.

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Post by The Special Juan Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:54 pm

What the hell is he doing? Hope he's banned for at least 5 games.
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Post by Crimey Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:55 pm

Alex Song is a stupid, stupid boy. Let his team down who were doing a decent job against a good Croatia side.

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:58 pm

LOL Can only be banned against Brazil. But for that, he should be, even by UEFA.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:02 pm

Olly wrote:No coincidence the decline of xavi has also seen the "decline of tika taka" either
That's the problem with a system based around your midfield passing the ball around so quickly and efficiently that the opponents aren't able to react.

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:05 pm

Bye-bye, Cameroon!

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Post by skyeman Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:06 pm

Oh well, this is over. Good night all.

The big one later on.

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Post by CFCNick Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:20 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:
CFCNick wrote:
NickisBHAFC wrote:Crespo, Torres, names that spring to mind.

Crespo isn't a flop. Look at his numbers for 05/06. Definitely not a flop.

100% a flop. Veron as well.

You aren't old enough to remember how good Crespo was that season.

(sound like a broken record using the "you're too young" line)

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:28 pm

Yep done and dusted. Well done Alex Song.

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