Ryder Cup predictions.............

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USA 15 - Europe 13

European top points scorer - Rory Mcilroy.............

European Lowest Points scorer - Lee Westwood....

USA Top points scorer - Jim Furyk.............

USA Lowest points scorer - Webb Simpson........

USA 8 - 8 Europe going into the singles......

lorus59 wrote:I would love to see Stenson walk up to Reed and deck him.

Why, coz Europeans are the only ones allowed to whip up the crowd??

Off the high moral ground lads........

Looks like Reed is doing the truffle shuffle when he holes a putt.

Do you think McIlroy made his loom bands?

John Cregan wrote:

lorus59 wrote:I would love to see Stenson walk up to Reed and deck him.

Why, coz Europeans are the only ones allowed to whip up the crowd??

Off the high moral ground lads........

He can whip up his crowd all he wants, but the finger to the mouth was for the opposition fans.

Best result re. Stenson/Reed would be if Stenson beats him - something no-one else has one this week. Say what you like about Reed's attitude but he's got a pretty sweet swing and obviously doesn't mind the competition. He might disappear up his own arse in the future, but equally I wouldn't be surprised if he actually does become 'Top Five'.

No problem with Reed doing the "fingers to the lips".
Europe would have have done the same before.

We could be watching the birth of the new Paul Azinger with Reed, he's clearly up for this Ryder Cup lark. He could be a thorn in Europes side for many years to come. Great to see that passion!

Hunter Mahan - specialist subject - hitting the wrong shot at the wrong time.

After 5 minutes of discussion, you ignore the Scottish run up shot in a situation that was tailor made for it, and airmail the green with a Mickelson flop shot.

Deary me, Tom Watson must be tearing his hair out.

Where are you Trussman?

Got to take your hat off to Donaldson, balls of steel from the rookie coming down the stretch.

Could be worse in the future for US. At least 2 of them play with long anchored putters. They will be banned for next Ryder Cup, right?

Well, the anchoring is banned, the putters aren't.

It's 3 isn't it? Simpson, Kuchar and Bradley. Not sure they'll miss them much, not too many points from those three this week!

Rather eggy interview with Gallagher, I think he's the only European who hasn't scored anything in about 5 Ryder Cups

super_realist wrote:I think he's the only European who hasn't scored anything in about 5 Ryder Cups

[pedant mode] Hanson in 2012. Played one fourball and the singles. But wasn't he injured or something?[/pedant mode off]

Of the 6 captains' picks Westwood scored the most points and he only managed 2 out of 4! Got to question Watson's pairings on Saturday afternoon, particularly with Mickelson's strong performance this afternoon.

...and what of the naysayers who criticised the appointment of McGinley (not a great playing career, no majors etc etc)?? According to the players...who were clearly influential in his appointment...to a man they think he's done a great job. I would agree and so does the final result.

JAS wrote:...and what of the naysayers who criticised the appointment of McGinley (not a great playing career, no majors etc etc)?? According to the players...who were clearly influential in his appointment...to a man they think he's done a great job. I would agree and so does the final result.

Yeah, absolutely. To contrast that with the berk Faldo (what WAS he on about re. Garcia the other day????) as a captain tells you all you need to know about the relevance of a playing career to the job.

Did it finish earlier than expected? Di Do hasn't had time to do her hair!

WTF is Alex Salmond doing on that stage???

navyblueshorts wrote:

JAS wrote:...and what of the naysayers who criticised the appointment of McGinley (not a great playing career, no majors etc etc)?? According to the players...who were clearly influential in his appointment...to a man they think he's done a great job. I would agree and so does the final result.

Yeah, absolutely. To contrast that with the berk Faldo (what WAS he on about re. Garcia the other day????) as a captain tells you all you need to know about the relevance of a playing career to the job.

Absolutely I mean when Garcia got hammered 5-4 by Kim.......It was Faldo's fault....

Rose's comeback from 4 down owed everything to McGinley..............didn't it !!

I'm surprised Walker slapped Westwood...............and Kuchar hammered Bjorn considering Watson was so crap..

What a load of bollox....................

Shame that tartan trouser wearing buffoon Salmond has to show his face and try and garner some reflected glory.

He's the first minister of Scotland..

A plastic politician, rightly booed.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

navyblueshorts wrote:

JAS wrote:...and what of the naysayers who criticised the appointment of McGinley (not a great playing career, no majors etc etc)?? According to the players...who were clearly influential in his appointment...to a man they think he's done a great job. I would agree and so does the final result.

Yeah, absolutely. To contrast that with the berk Faldo (what WAS he on about re. Garcia the other day????) as a captain tells you all you need to know about the relevance of a playing career to the job.

Absolutely I mean when Garcia got hammered 5-4 by Kim.......It was Faldo's fault....

Rose's comeback from 4 down owed everything to McGinley..............didn't it !!

I'm surprised Walker slapped Westwood...............and Kuchar hammered Bjorn considering Watson was so crap..

What a load of bollox....................

What, on Earth, are you on about Truss??? I only have one thing to say to you: 16 1/2 - 11 1/2.

The difference between Olly being a great Captain or a loser................Is Rose's fluke putt on 17 and Furyk lipping out on 16.........

Captain role is overrated....

We didn't play well..

For a Country used to losing you don't make good winners with that remark..

Sounds like we've got a bitter loser here chaps. 1 win in 9. That's the difference between knowing what a team is, and not having a clue.

Sounds like you've been drinking too much wine from your sour grapes TRUSS.

Watson sounded a sore loser and so do you.

Did anyone else think Alex Ferguson had a touch of the Alzheimers about him today?

How's the pie Truss? Is it humble flavoured enough for you? :-)

All winning captains are hailed as "inspirational" by their team members. But in truth, I can only think of one captain (from either side) whose actual selections & tactics made the difference, and that was Azinger in '08 with his brilliant pod system.
Gordon Brand jnr, who played twice under Jacklin, once said a tree could captain a Ryder Cup side.
If you have a good team that plays to its potential, & you get the rub of the green at the right time, you can't really go wrong.

Golf was the winner....

Made a few strange choices Watson....

Walker and rottweiller Zach at 11/12.............Where it doesn't matter.....

Donaldson, Duboissen, Reed can all take a bow for their debuts.....

Find it amusing how you love it on here when poulter is giving it gung ho but you want Reed smacked in the mouth.....

Now you know how it feels..

Rose was immense as usual..................Simpson and Poulter were relieved to draw eachother I think...

You win because you deserve to...No complaints....

Give it to Freddie please..............

I think McGinley must be given at least some credit for his work with the rookies and how he tried to prepare them and give them a mentor. At the end of the day it's obviously down to the players to deliver, but good preparation by the captain must make that at least a little easier.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Golf was the winner....

Made a few strange choices Watson....

Walker and rottweiller Zach at 11/12.............Where it doesn't matter.....

Donaldson, Duboissen, Reed can all take a bow for their debuts.....

Find it amusing how you love it on here when poulter is giving it gung ho but you want Reed smacked in the mouth.....

Now you know how it feels..

Rose was immense as usual..................Simpson and Poulter were relieved to draw eachother I think...

You win because you deserve to...No complaints....

Give it to Freddie please..............

1. I thought Captains didn't matter?
2. I thought Captains didn't matter?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:The difference between Olly being a great Captain or a loser................Is Rose's fluke putt on 17 and Furyk lipping out on 16.........

Captain role is overrated....

We didn't play well..

For a Country used to losing you don't make good winners with that remark..

My point was it doesn't matter if you've won 50 majors. It won't necessarily make you a good captain. I thought that was obvious but hey, you go off on one for no reason. It's fine. You're hurting. I understand.

super_realist wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Golf was the winner....

Made a few strange choices Watson....

Walker and rottweiller Zach at 11/12.............Where it doesn't matter.....

Donaldson, Duboissen, Reed can all take a bow for their debuts.....

Find it amusing how you love it on here when poulter is giving it gung ho but you want Reed smacked in the mouth.....

Now you know how it feels..

Rose was immense as usual..................Simpson and Poulter were relieved to draw eachother I think...

You win because you deserve to...No complaints....

Give it to Freddie please..............

1. I thought Captains didn't matter?
2. I thought Captains didn't matter?

Because he deserves it.

Why?
He's almost as out of touch with the PGA Tour guys as Watson is.

navyblueshorts wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:The difference between Olly being a great Captain or a loser................Is Rose's fluke putt on 17 and Furyk lipping out on 16.........

Captain role is overrated....

We didn't play well..

For a Country used to losing you don't make good winners with that remark..

My point was it doesn't matter if you've won 50 majors. It won't necessarily make you a good captain. I thought that was obvious but hey, you go off on one for no reason. It's fine. You're hurting. I understand.

I'm not a sore loser.........

You deserved to win.......

If Pavin deserved the job then so does Freddie.....WTF else is there ???..........

Why not just give it to a tramp, after all, Captain's don't do anything do they?

A poor RC overall from an excitement perspective, but that wasn't Europe's fault.   I'll still never understand Bradley & Mickelson being left out of Saturday.

High points - The performances of Dubuisson, Stenson, Rose, Walker & Reed................

While this wasn't a thrashing like 2004 & 2006,it nearly was..................probably Bjorn's last RC, hard to see Donaldson make the team again and it's 50 50 whether we'll see Poulter or Westwood in the team again..........

super_realist wrote:Why not just give it to a tramp, after all, Captain's don't do anything do they?

I'm not interested..

John Cregan wrote:A poor RC overall from an excitement perspective, but that wasn't Europe's fault.   I'll still never understand Bradley & Mickelson being left out of Saturday.

High points - The performances of Dubuisson, Stenson, Rose, Walker & Reed................

While this wasn't a thrashing like 2004 & 2006,it nearly was..................probably Bjorn's last RC, hard to see Donaldson make the team again and it's 50 50 whether we'll see Poulter or Westwood in the team again..........

Anti climax needed to be at least 7-9 to have a chance..............When I saw the singles draw I knew we were done

Why wouldn't Donaldson make the team again? He's way younger than Westwood or Bjorn who both played.

They missed the boat by choosing Watson over David Toms - he'll be a great Captain if the PGA ever returns to its senses.
Freddie never did well in the Ryder Cup, never much cared for it - the PC is much more his style, low pressure and Finchem around to guide him.

I'm never wrong wrote:

super_realist wrote:I think he's the only European who hasn't scored anything in about 5 Ryder Cups

[pedant mode] Hanson in 2012. Played one fourball and the singles. But wasn't he injured or something?[/pedant mode off]

Felt sorry for Hanson....4 down and nearly squared it on the last with Jason......

Feel sad for Gallagher as he feel like an outsider too..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm not a sore loser.........

You deserved to win.......

If Pavin deserved the job then so does Freddie.....WTF else is there ???..........

I don't think you're a sore loser. I'll just enjoy this year. We could easily get dumped on in 2 years. Great event at the end of the day and a wonderful sporting rivalry. Long may it continue.
Be interesting to watch Reed over the next few years - USA definitely needs him in the team. Everything 9C isn't in this environment.

navyblueshorts wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm not a sore loser.........

You deserved to win.......

If Pavin deserved the job then so does Freddie.....WTF else is there ???..........

I don't think you're a sore loser. I'll just enjoy this year. We could easily get dumped on in 2 years. Great event at the end of the day and a wonderful sporting rivalry. Long may it continue.
Be interesting to watch Reed over the next few years - USA definitely needs him in the team. Everything 9C isn't in this environment.

Enjoy it ..............Great occasion...........Not just the Men but your girls are handing it to us at the moment....

Doesn't help them all playing our tour perhaps.............We are raising your game..

Truss are ya mental? Surely the US should one man and one man only in mind and thats Paul Azinger? "Freddie deserves it", do you want to win it? If you do you Must put Zinger back in.

kwinigolfer wrote:They missed the boat by choosing Watson over David Toms - he'll be a great Captain if the PGA ever returns to its senses.
Freddie never did well in the Ryder Cup, never much cared for it - the PC is much more his style, low pressure and Finchem around to guide him.

Horschel was the big one that got away...................Think we are going to have to have more picks (three to four) and in form players getting the nod.

Horschel wasn't "in form" when the picks were made - so that's presumably another change you'd suggest?