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Post by Guest Fri 07 Nov 2014, 11:48 am

First topic message reminder :

So the ATPs premier showpiece event hits the O2 on Sunday. The sixth showing at the O2 and yielded only 3 different winners. Very interesting this year. 3 virgin qualifiers in Cillic, Raonic and Nishikori. Can we see a new winner? Can Nishikori and Raonic win the biggest title of their careers to date? Federer will have an eye on the DC like his compatriot Wawrinka, though he is woefully out of form of late. Has Murray much left in the tank to win his first title here at the O2? Can Berdych do a Davydenko and strike out of nowhere? Will it be a routine Djokovic victory?

For me the 2 that qualify from each group will be:

Group A

1) Djokovic
2) Raonic

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1) Murray
2) Federer

Djokovic/Murray final

Winner: Djokovic

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Post by lydian Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:02 pm

OMGFG.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:02 pm

Well hopefully this isn't an omen for tomorrow night's football.

What the answer for Murray is I'll be buggered if I know. I would like to think a change of coach may help but I am not so sure. A sad sight this - what a demise. Well played Roger though but think it is a case of Andy's awfullness more than Roger's brilliance.
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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:03 pm

If Fed does not give this game to Andy, I will ne pretty mad at Fed.

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Post by Guest Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:03 pm

It's like on the night of losing your virginity and your erection goes AWOL and your best mate steps in and takes your place this match.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:03 pm

Of course, Federer may have been able to play a little better tonight if challenged, we don't know, but he is reasonable shape for Djokovic final if that happens.

The way they are both dominating the tournament so far, it will actually be quite a surprise result if either of them loses their respective semis.

Djokovic certainly looking the tournament favourite on current form, but Federer's record against him this year, 3-2 ahead with 3 comfortable wins and 2 very tight defeats, does leave some room for doubt.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:04 pm

Jahu wrote:
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Jahu wrote:Josiah, where you been hiding? zen
Nursing a broken arm Sorry Jahu

Oh man, sorry to hear that, hope all good and get better soon.

Will send you some grapes with DHL Hug
Hope you are well too Hug I hate not being allowed to fist pump this breath taking display zen
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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:04 pm

Jahu wrote:
Henman Bill wrote:The crowd are not exactly getting behind Murray are they. For sure he will get a big cheer is he wins a game but they are not exactly trying to motivate.

This is what happens when he gets Political a few months ago.

Actually no as after that he had his best stretch of results of the season. Nice try but off the mark.
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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:05 pm

LK hahahaha, you hit the g-spot there.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:05 pm

Andy is confused, he has had too many different coaches in to short a time.. all telling him something different imo .. he needs to go back to square one.. it has shot his confidence to blazes.. Play your own game Andy and believe in your ability

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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:05 pm

Expect 2 silly UE from Fed.
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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:06 pm

Well done Fed.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:06 pm

Anyway his camp should show him this video of this match and try to get to the bottom of this abject failure.
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Post by It Must Be Love Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:07 pm

GAME ON !!!

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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:07 pm

Where?
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Post by Henman Bill Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:07 pm

He is talking about crowd reaction, not effect on the results.
By the way, for me, Federer was really going for the double bagel. The way he came to the net for the second point purposefully, and the way he took a step on one point to try and hit a winner off the second serve. And the way he looked up inn disappointment on losing the point on another occassion!

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:08 pm

Got to 0-30 and said to himself "enough embarrassment, I'll give him this one". Nobel peace prize for Feds notworthy
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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:09 pm

HB, come on, be more positive!
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Post by Henman Bill Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:10 pm

Murray press conference will be interesting.

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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:11 pm

Done and dusted and Fed saved Andys face with a home turf single game.

Hope Andy fixes his brain or back, and quick.


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Post by Henman Bill Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:11 pm

I'm going to stick my neck out here and go for a Federer-Djokovic final at this stage. It's bold, but I'm not afraid to make the big calls.

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:12 pm

56 minutes I think 59 or 60 when he took down Nadal here once.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:12 pm

Henman Bill wrote:I'm going to stick my neck out here and go for a Federer-Djokovic final at this stage. It's bold, but I'm not afraid to make the big calls.

Laugh

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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:13 pm

Ivan, come back for ffs!!!!
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Post by Guest Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:13 pm

Just a disgrace. I will tip my hat to Federer, but it wasn't made to work as much as I expected him to.

A lot of work lay ahead for Andy. A lot.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:14 pm

HB could you be bold enough to tell us the result... it would save me some time Wink

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Post by bogbrush Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:16 pm

Jahu wrote:Done and dusted and Fed saved Andys face with a home turf single game.

Hope Andy fixes his brain or back, and quick.
Bit peed off blowing it from 6-0, 5-0, 0-30 against serve there.

Federer very intimidating there, giving Murray nowhere to go and nothing to breath. That'll expose any issues of confidence.
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Post by Henman Bill Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:16 pm

Hi haddie nuff, Djokovic will win the final, either in 3 sets or two tight sets. I hope you appreciate that. You no longer need to watch.

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Post by lydian Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:16 pm

Absolutely humiliating stuff for Murray - made to look like a complete amateur.

Some amazing shots from Federer but Murray was just woeful.

Bit disappointed it wasn't a double bagel to be honest - the only interest left in the match.

Sorry Mauresmo, you've just drawn your last pay check.
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Post by Henman Bill Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:18 pm

Just checked the stats on the ATP site and this is Murray's most embarrassing performance since he tried to chat up a girl at the age of 13 by using his amusing facial expressions and charismatic wit.

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Post by bogbrush Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:18 pm

The only good thing about this for Murray is he has to accept you can't play a guy like this without positive tennis and with a 2nd serve that's not good WTA standard.

The game has to change.


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Post by coolpixel Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:19 pm

Murray is the most inconsistent player among the top. No idea why folks were expecting a lot from him at this event. Playing back to back for 6 weeks will leave its mark. Federer on fire. Some of those shots, the lob in the first set for example, were vintage.

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Post by Guest Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:20 pm

Well least one Murray still has a fighting chance...

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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:20 pm

Anabelle saying she is not so sure is Andys coach the right one for him.


And persuade Ivan to come back, Greg agrees.


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Post by lydian Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:20 pm

I'd be pretty pee'd being a punter watching that. Many will have travelled hours to see that humiliation.

Abject. Woeful. Embarrassing. I mean what was Federer thinking at 6-0 5-0 30-0...lol.
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:20 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:Just a disgrace. I will tip my hat to Federer, but it wasn't made to work as much as I expected him to.

A lot of work lay ahead for Andy. A lot.
I believe Andy has a lot of self doubt and pent up rage in him. He just doesn't know what to do this year with the exception of Valencia, Vienna.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:21 pm

Henman Bill wrote:Hi haddie nuff, Djokovic will win the final, either in 3 sets or two tight sets. I hope you appreciate that. You no longer need to watch.

Thanks HB I can now get an early lunch Wink

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:21 pm

To be fair to Murray I lost 6-1 6-0 last night, and it was not against Roger Federer.

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Post by bogbrush Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:22 pm

Grinning Greg saying he got Mauresmo because she'd be sensitive to his issues.

FFS, that's the last thing he needs! He needs a coach he is scared of - now who could do that.......?
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Post by CAS Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:23 pm

first set Federer played great, second set Murray played as a guy who was already out of the tournament and had no adrenaline. Love seeing Federer dominate players but glad Murray got the one game

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Post by Guest Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:23 pm

lydian wrote:I'd be pretty pee'd being a punter watching that. Many will have travelled hours to see that humiliation.

Abject. Woeful. Embarrassing. I mean what was Federer thinking at 6-0 5-0 30-0...lol.

Seeing he won humanitarian of the year, he won't be shy to stick his hand in his pockets and refund those who attended and pay my sky bill for this month!

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Post by CAS Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:24 pm

time to give McEnroe a call Andy!

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Post by coolpixel Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:25 pm

BB, I don't think there are many coaches who will put up with him swearing at them when things don't go his way. MCEnroe or Connors might be hard on him but I doubt they will be interested in the job.

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Post by Guest Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:25 pm

bogbrush wrote:Grinning Greg saying he got Mauresmo because she'd be sensitive to his issues.

FFS, that's the last thing he needs! He needs a coach he is scared of - now who could do that.......?

This guy.....

https://youtu.be/LmktLedlCUU

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Post by lydian Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:25 pm

If Mauresmo has any decency she'll do the decent thing and hand over the white envelope in the morning.
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Post by lydian Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:26 pm

I say call Agassi.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:31 pm

Can I nominate my epitaph post as post of the year?
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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:32 pm

Or Graf.
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:33 pm

Does Fed deserve a Statue in Andys hometown for this? Blatantly threw the game at 6-0 5-0 to give the crowd and his opponent a glimmer of hope.
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Post by Guest Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:33 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Can I nominate my epitaph post as post of the year?

No.

The Moët thread takes it hands down. Ok!

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Post by Jahu Thu 13 Nov 2014, 9:41 pm

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