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Post by George Carlin Sun 08 Feb 2015, 7:08 am

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SCOTLAND v WALES
Sunday 15 February 2015
KO 15:00 (GMT)
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh

Live on BBC1

Referee: Glen Jackson (NZR)
AR1: George Clancy (IRFU)
AR2: Dudley Phillips (IRFU)
TMO: Simon McDowell (IRFU)

A. Teams:

1. SCOTLAND
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15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors);
14 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors);
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors);
12 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors);
11 Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby);
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors);
9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester);

1 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby);
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby);
3 Geoff Cross (London Irish);
4 Richie Gray (Castres);
5 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors);
6 Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors),
7 Blair Cowan (London Irish);
8 Johnnie Beattie (Castres);

16 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors);
17 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors);
18 Jon Welsh (Glasgow Warriors);
19 Jim Hamilton (Saracens);
20 Alasdair Strokosch (USA Perpignan);
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby);
22 Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby);
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby);

2. WALES
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15 Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon)
14 Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues)
13 Jonathan Davies (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
12 Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro)
11 Liam Williams (Scarlets)
10 Dan Biggar (Ospreys)
09 Rhys Webb (Ospreys)

01 Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues)
02 Richard Hibbard (Gloucester)
03 Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys)
04 Jake Ball (Scarlets)
05 Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys)
06 Dan Lydiate (Ospreys)
07 Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues, CAPT)
08 Taulupe Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons)

16 Scott Baldwin (Ospreys)
17 Paul James (Bath Rugby)
18 Scott Andrews (Cardiff Blues)
19 Luke Charteris (Racing Metro)
20 Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)
21 Mike Phillips (Racing Metro)
22 Rhys Priestland (Scarlets)
23 Scott Williams (Scarlets)

B. Form (last 4 games):

1. SCOTLAND

07/02/15 - France 15 - 8 Scotland

22/11/14 - Scotland 37 - 12 Tonga

15/11/14 - Scotland 16 - 24 New Zealand

08/11/14 - Scotland 41 - 31 Argentina

2. WALES

06/02/15 - Wales 16 - 21 England

29/11/14 - Wales 12 - 6 South Africa

22/11/14 - Wales 16 - 34 New Zealand

15/11/14  - Wales 17 - 13 Fiji

C. Head to Head:

120 Played 120

48 Wins 69

69 Losses 48

3 Draws 3

180 Tries 227

80 Conversions 112

130 Penalties 142

30 Drop Goals 25

1,204 Points 1,578


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Post by tigertattie Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:15 pm

Excellent tackle there from Tim visser Shocked
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Post by Heaf Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:16 pm

The Saint wrote:This is why The Saint has been calling for Cuthbert to be dropped. He is so off form.

What's with this referring to yourself in the 3rd person thing?

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Post by reallybored Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:16 pm

teh_Dingmeister wrote:Visser actually made a tackle there???!
A great one!

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Post by nathan Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:19 pm

not the greatest of starts by Wales, i imagine Gatland will be shoving a rocket up their behinds at half time.

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Post by The Saint Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:20 pm

Just falling apart in defence, breakdowns and line out. If the changes The Saint has called for had been made, I don't think we'd be as bad.

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Post by teh_Dingmeister Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:21 pm

The Messiah should have been in for his first try, at least they got some points out of it.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:21 pm

Starting slow again well there's a feckin surprise and lineout lost AGAIN FFS
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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:22 pm

3 Hookers in the management set up and an attack coach who is clueless
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Post by MarcusHalberstram Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:22 pm

Sorry - but haven't Scotland been living offside so far?

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Post by Heaf Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:24 pm

Great catch by 1/2P but the pass off the ground clearly went forwards.


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Post by teh_Dingmeister Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:25 pm

Scotland should stop going deep off kickoffs, just lets Liam Williams kick it straight out

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Post by nathan Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:25 pm

MarcusHalberstram wrote:Sorry - but haven't Scotland been living offside so far?

haven't noticed that yet.

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Post by nathan Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:25 pm

lovely catch by williams. he reminds of Brown, fueled by rage that sometimes boils over

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Post by The Saint Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:27 pm

nathan wrote:
MarcusHalberstram wrote:Sorry - but haven't Scotland been living offside so far?

haven't noticed that yet.

I'm sure if it was Wales offside you'd have made several whinge posts by now.

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Post by teh_Dingmeister Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:29 pm

Arrogant taffs :P

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:31 pm

Absolutely utterly shocking decision and execution, can someone remind me why Webb is on the field, isn't it supposed to be for his quicker service and Jenkins getting stuffed again.
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Post by MarcusHalberstram Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:33 pm

Utterly mystefied by almost everything Glenn Jackson is calling today.

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Post by The Saint Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:33 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:Absolutely utterly shocking decision and execution, can someone remind me why Webb is on the field, isn't it supposed to be for his quicker service and Jenkins getting stuffed again.

What's Webb done wrong now? Cuthbert is the worst player on the pitch.

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Post by MarcusHalberstram Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:34 pm

Agree about Webb - he study stands waving arms. Useless. At least Mike Phillips would go for a walk!

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Post by The Saint Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:35 pm

That could be a red.

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:35 pm

Can he really stop himself?

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Post by nathan Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:35 pm

not much in it but i think it should be a yellow. Didn't like Biggar rolling around though and then suddenly getting up to complain to the ref.

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Post by MarcusHalberstram Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:36 pm

By "Payne's" law that should be red.

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Post by The Saint Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:36 pm

MarcusHalberstram wrote:By "Payne's" law that should be red.

Definitely.

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:38 pm

Punished.

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Post by The Saint Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:38 pm

Despite that try I think we agree on Webb now.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:38 pm

Hate that law,players shouldn't be allowed to jump if that's the result.What can Russell do there he's looking at the ball and can't see the Welsh guy til it's too late.The ref is exactly right but it just ruins too many games.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:39 pm

what the hell was Bennett trying to do???
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Post by MarcusHalberstram Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:39 pm

And tackled without/off the ball?!,!? That should be another card!!!!! WTF?!?!

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Post by TJ Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:39 pm

Dammit

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Post by The Saint Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:39 pm

Pathetic by the Scottish 13. Just imagine this thread if a welsh player did that. I mean Biggar gets taken out and nearly does his collar bone in and he's play acting Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Post by TJ Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:40 pm

asoreleftshoulder wrote:Hate that law,players shouldn't be allowed to jump if that's the result.What can Russell do there he's looking at the ball and can't see the Welsh guy til it's too late.The ref is exactly right but it just ruins too many games.

Russell totally mistimed it - he either had to jump or get out of the way. He did neither

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Post by nathan Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:40 pm

Hmmmm, was that a high tackle?

Does halfpenny actually do a kick without it going straight down the middle?

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Post by teh_Dingmeister Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:40 pm

there was a massive high tackle just before that turnover, went unnoticed

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:41 pm

Consistency over common sense?

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:41 pm

Should have been a yellow against Toby, and JD is a yellow all day
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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:41 pm

TJ wrote:
asoreleftshoulder wrote:Hate that law,players shouldn't be allowed to jump if that's the result.What can Russell do there he's looking at the ball and can't see the Welsh guy til it's too late.The ref is exactly right but it just ruins too many games.

Russell totally mistimed it - he either had to jump or get out of the way.  He did neither

Yeah if we're giving yellow cards because a player mistimes his attempt to catch a ball the game is in a bad state.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:41 pm

Nice consistency from the ref
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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:42 pm

The Saint wrote:
bedfordwelsh wrote:Absolutely utterly shocking decision and execution, can someone remind me why Webb is on the field, isn't it supposed to be for his quicker service and Jenkins getting stuffed again.

What's Webb done wrong now? Cuthbert is the worst player on the pitch.

Not dis-agreeing about Cuthbert but Webb has the nod over Phillips for his quicker service but its been as slow as Phillips.
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Post by JDizzle Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:42 pm

Lamont with a shrewd nudge in the back...

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:42 pm

Never a yellow card there, that was the Scottish crowd that won that.

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Post by The Saint Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:43 pm

Isn't advantage over after they make so much ground? (Genuine question).

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:43 pm

Stop trolling Saint!
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Post by MarcusHalberstram Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:44 pm

Glenn Jackson is not up to this level. He is ruining this game - he's made it all about the effing reffing.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:44 pm

This commentary from Jonathan Davies is incredibly impartial and embarrassing.

Looking at the TMO for yellows will always result in just that, a yellow, as such incidents look so much worse in slow-motion.

Scotland need to cut the errors out, and they can win this.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:44 pm

The Saint wrote:Isn't advantage over after they make so much ground? (Genuine question).

I seriously don't understand the rule anymore, that was more than enough advantage for Scotland in my eyes.

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Post by teh_Dingmeister Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:44 pm

shades of that 22m maul try against France in 2006

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Post by tigertattie Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:45 pm

So if a Scotsman gets a card its deserved but if a Welshman gets a card for the same offence it's the crowds fault?
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Post by TightHEAD Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:46 pm

tigertattie wrote:So if a Scotsman gets a card its deserved but if a Welshman gets a card for the same offence it's the crowds fault?

Yep, the rule of jiffy!
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Post by JDizzle Sun 15 Feb 2015, 3:46 pm

'Same offence'.

Great defence to end there by Wales.

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