Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread VII

[George Carlin]

First topic message reminder :

Ye Olde Banter:

https://www.606v2.com/t48240-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread
https://www.606v2.com/t51313-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-ii
https://www.606v2.com/t53119-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iii
https://www.606v2.com/t54519-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iv
https://www.606v2.com/t55409-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-v-the-fun-continues
https://www.606v2.com/t56913p950-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-vi-banter-boogaloo

A. Edinburgh
   

1. League Results

Fri 5 Sep: Munster Rugby 13 - 14 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 12 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 13 - 14 Connacht Rugby

Sun 21 Sep: Ospreys 62 - 13 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 26 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 20 Scarlets

Fri 3 Oct: Ulster Rugby 30 - 0 Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 11 Oct: Edinburgh Rugby 24 - 10 Newport Gwent Dragons

Fri 31 Oct: Leinster Rugby 33 - 8 Edinburgh Rugby

Sun 23 Nov: Edinburgh Rugby 28 - 13 Cardiff Blues

Sat 29 Nov: Zebre 18 - 10 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 19 Dec: Edinburgh Rugby 48 - 0 Benetton Treviso

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby - 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Connacht Rugby 13 - 16 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 13 Feb: Edinburgh Rugby 24 - 16 Ospreys

Fri 20 Feb: Edinburgh Rugby 17 - 20 Ulster Rugby

Sun 1 Mar: Cardiff Blues 21 - 15 Edinburgh Rugby

2. European Results

17/10/14: Bordeaux-Begles 13 - 15 Edinburgh Rugby

24/10/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 17 Lyon

7/12/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 13 London Welsh

14/12/14: London Welsh 6 - 24 Edinburgh Rugby

17/01/2015: Lyon 21 - 19 Edinburgh Rugby

23/01/2015: Edinburgh Rugby 38 - 20 Bordeaux-Begles

B. Glasgow


1. League Results

Sat 6 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 20 Leinster Rugby

Sun 14 Sep: Cardiff Blues 12 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 20 Sep: Newport Gwent Dragons 13 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 26 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 39 - 21 Connacht Rugby

Sun 5 Oct: Benetton Treviso 23 - 40 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 11 Oct: Ulster Rugby 29 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 31 Oct: Glasgow Warriors 17 - 9 Benetton Treviso

Fri 21 Nov: Scarlets 19 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Sun 30 Nov: Glasgow Warriors 19 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons

Sat 20 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 18 Munster Rugby

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 7 Scarlets

Sun 15 Feb: Zebre 10 - 54 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 21 Feb: Glasgow Warriors 19 - 16 Ospreys

Sat 28 Feb: Munster Rugby 22 - 10 Glasgow Warriors

2. European Results

18/10/14: Glasgow Warriors 37 - 10 Bath Rugby

25/10/14: Montpellier 13 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

7/12/14: Toulouse 19 - 11 Glasgow Warriors

13/12/14: Glasgow Warriors 9 - 12 Toulouse

18/01/2015: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 10 Montpellier

25/01/2015: Bath Rugby 20 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

[InjuredYetAgain]

Good news about Rory Sutherland signing a 2 year full-time contract. Looks a very useful big lump so, with Zander Fagerson, hopefully the well isn't too dry when it comes to props.
Actually, I was talking to one of Glasgow's coaches and apparently the younger Fagerson (I can't remember his name) is even better. Perhaps, we have found the next Gray brothers?

[Notch]

I'm not denying that, just saying that as a player he looks to be fairly decent.  i.e. he's no Mike Penn.

Just trying to put a positive spin on things...!

He's an outside centre playing on the wing because Ulster have Marshall, Olding, McCloskey, Payne, Cave etc. etc. Then coming through at centre are Mark Best, Sam Arnold, Jacob Stockdale etc.

Ulster are so stocked with centres the likes of Strauss and Burleigh wouldn't be doing more than carrying water for our A team. Similarly the likes of Fife and Visser wouldn't be near our team with everyone fit.

I don't think Edinburgh are in a position to complain about this one lads!

[InjuredYetAgain]

I don't think Edinburgh are in a position to complain about this one lads![/quote]
I don't know why but something tells me you have never met an Edinburgh or Scottish fan in person, Notch ...

[Notch]

Au contraire, I'm afraid I've met far too many! Lived in Scotland for nine years and am a veteran of over 20 test matches at Murrayfield...

What I meant was, if you're giving out at Allen not being near the Ulster 23 when everyone is fit and available, well, no current Edinburgh outside back would be either. Even though I'm a massive fan of Matt Scott. It didn't come out well!

[InjuredYetAgain]

Sorry, Notch. i was having a go at us. We can find reason to complain about anything.

[IanBru]

Ulster are so stocked with centres the likes of Strauss and Burleigh wouldn't be doing more than carrying water for our A team.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. OK, get a hold of yourself buddy. Whoa, OK? No, seriously, pull yourself together. Put down the sharpened personal grooming instruments and listen.

It takes effort to carry water. It's really heavy and sometimes when you turn around it takes a while to catch up and threatens to pull you over sideways. Also, sometimes it splashes all over your calf-skin winkle-pickers and you have to dry them against the panel heater. What I'm saying is, it's a really tough job. Carrying water is perfectly legitimate preparation for playing wing for Edinburgh. I mean, it's not that hard. I played wing for Edinburgh once and I completed this crossword puzzle at the same time. I didn't score any tries and we lost to Connacht at home, but I completed the latest chapter of my novel (the bit where Christian Gray goes to the hardware store), so it was time well spent.

[RDW]

There must be some rare condition to describe what you've been doing Notch - I mean, to deliberately choose to go to Scotland games, and even to pay money for it, you must have a few screws loose somewhere!

We don't have a choice in the matter - our fate has been sealed!

[George Carlin]

So Notch - if you had to pick a combined Ulster/Glasgow backline, whom would you choose?

[RDW]

So Notch - if you had to pick a combined Ulster/Glasgow backline, whom would you choose?

9 Kennedy
10 Te Rure
11 McLennan
12 Strauss
13 Dominguez
14 Bowe
15 Cuthbert

[George Carlin]

So Notch - if you had to pick a combined Ulster/Glasgow backline, whom would you choose?

9 Kennedy
10 Te Rure
11 McLennan
12 Strauss
13 Dominguez
14 Bowe
15 Cuthbert

[RDW]

Yeah yeah - you don't expect me to actually read what you write do you?

[tigertattie]

So Notch - if you had to pick a combined Ulster/Glasgow backline, whom would you choose?

Is he allowed to pick players from Ayr?

[jimbopip]

So Notch - if you had to pick a combined Ulster/Glasgow backline, whom would you choose?

Is he allowed to pick players from Ayr?

Only if he's looking to include world class ones.

p.s. Look at the trouble we have had in the past choosing the best Glasgow backline: let's not muddy the waters by adding one or two rank outsiders into the equation.

[jimbopip]

Speaking of world class Ayr players. has undergone surgery and will miss the rest of the season.
Speaking of world class, not from Ayr, players: DTH has undergone surgery and hopes to be back for the end of the season.

[RDW]

Bad news for the messiah - lets hope it's just tidying something up with the world cup in mind.

[RDW]

Also, Glasgow are looking short of firepower in the backs now - Bennett, Dunbar, DTH, Lamont and Maitland all injured long term.

[BigGee]

Injuries are really in danger of derailing Glasgow's season, particularly in our backline!

[Nematode]

[Nematode]

You could make a decent SQ side with all the injured players:

Berghan, ?, ?, R Gray, Gilchrist, Harley, Watson, Denton, Kennedy, Jackson, Maitland, Dunbar, Bennett, Lamont, Tonks

[GLove39]

Also, Glasgow are looking short of firepower in the backs  now - Bennett, Dunbar, DTH, Lamont and Maitland all injured long term.

Cometh the hour, cometh the racist uncle Dougie?

[RDW]

Also, Glasgow are looking short of firepower in the backs  now - Bennett, Dunbar, DTH, Lamont and Maitland all injured long term.

Cometh the hour, cometh the racist uncle Dougie?

Or, more accurately, cometh the hour, cometh the Lee Jones!

[tigertattie]

Also, Glasgow are looking short of firepower in the backs  now - Bennett, Dunbar, DTH, Lamont and Maitland all injured long term.

Cometh the hour, cometh the racist uncle Dougie?

Or, more accurately, cometh the hour, cometh the Lee Jones!

  Imagine Lee Jones playing in the centre!

[RDW]

Joking aside, Glasgow are now worryingly short of outside backs.  Or more accurately, top level outside backs.  I can see them having to rely on on Lyle, Braid, Hughes, Bryce etc which is great for their development, but to win the Pro 12 you probably need more experienced players like DTH, Dunbar and Bennett etc.

Off the top of my head:

12 - Horne, Lyle, Braid
13 - Vernon
11/14 - Seymour, Matawalu, Jones, Hughes
15 - Hogg, Murchie, Bryce

I suspect we'll see a lot of Matawalu on the wing now that Pyrgos is back.  Not too bad in itself I suppose.

[Weegie Wizard]

If we play the rest of the season with Horne & Vernon in the centre I won't be too worried about that. They've both played really well in the last few weeks. My big worry is that we will need to play Jones, Niko or Hughes in the next 3 games and probably the playoffs as well.

I suppose now is a good time for me to be proved wrong about Hughes

[RDW]

I can see it now - Damien Hoyland gets sent to Glasgow as injury cover, plays his way into the team playing a blinder, scores the winning try in the final and ends up signing a contract with Glasgow and becomes world class...!

Meanwhile Lee Jones decides he wants to return to Edinburgh...

[tigertattie]

I can see it now - Damien Hoyland gets sent to Glasgow as injury cover, plays his way into the team playing a blinder, scores the winning try in the final and ends up signing a contract with Glasgow and becomes world class...!

Meanwhile Lee Jones decides he wants to return to Edinburgh...

Can't happen as he has never played for Ayr!

[BigGee]

You Edinburgh fans are actually very hard on Lee Jones, he has played pretty well for Glasgow when he has been call up and I would rather have him on the wing than Niko, especially in a tight game.

He did score the try that got you into the European qualifiers, if I remember correctly and had a very good season that year. I know he subsequently got lost in the Edinburgh malaise but you have forgotten that he was a decent enough player, even if he had to come over to Glasgow to rediscover his form!

[RDW]

You Edinburgh fans are actually very hard on Lee Jones, he has played pretty well for Glasgow when he has been call up and I would rather have him on the wing than Niko, especially in a tight game.

He did score the try that got you into the European qualifiers, if I remember correctly and had a very good season that year. I know he subsequently got lost in the Edinburgh malaise but you have forgotten that he was a decent enough player, even if he had to come over to Glasgow to rediscover his form!

You are right, but I don't know if you quite appreciate just how bad he was before he left Edinburgh; He couldn't catch. He couldn't tackle. He was bloody awful. He was excellent the season with the HK run, and was deserving of his caps, but he was truly abysmal when he left and I don't think any Edinburgh fan would have been sad to see him go!

For whatever reason he found good form at Glasgow, but he's certainly not hitting the same heights as that season with Edinburgh. Like all wingers at Edinburgh though Solomons' tactics won't have helped.

I think he should concentrate on 7s if we keep it going - I genuinely think he's a world class 7s player.

[LordDowlais]

More money for the Jocks, well done:-

http://www.scottishrugby.org/news/15/04/14/bt-completes-scottish-rugby-portfolio-scotlands-front-shirt-sponsor

[jimbopip]

Joking aside, Glasgow are now worryingly short of outside backs.  Or more accurately, top level outside backs.  I can see them having to rely on on Lyle, Braid, Hughes, Bryce etc which is great for their development, but to win the Pro 12 you probably need more experienced players like DTH, Dunbar and Bennett etc.

Off the top of my head:

12 - Horne, Lyle, Braid
13 - Vernon
11/14 - Seymour, Matawalu, Jones, Hughes
15 - Hogg, Murchie, Bryce

I suspect we'll see a lot of Matawalu on the wing now that Pyrgos is back.  Not too bad in itself I suppose.

Too true RDW. However, one of the heartening aspects of supporting the World Class side in Scotland is the way players step up to the challenge of filling a Glasgow shirt. If you look back to this time last season Jerry Yanuyanutawa was seen as a plodding journeyman who was there as injury cover and not much more. Ditto Richie Vee. Fraser Brown had played for Scotland but hadn't really done anything for Glasgow.
Now, if all three play in the three remaining Pro 12 games I wont be at all unhappy.
It looks as if Glen Bryce and Sandy Lyle will be called on too. Both looked very good in the Melrose sevens. Lyle's season so far is the stuff of dreams: scores for Glasgow in Italy, scores for Scotland sevens against the Blackness, plays in the Hong Kong sevens and scores, wins the Melrose sevens. Who was saying anything about him last year?

So
9. Henners Price McConnell
10 Dancer Meatball Braid Hornee
11/14 Seymour Mata Jones Hughes
12 Hornee Lyle Vernon Braid
13 Vernon Bryce Hogg Hornee
15 Hogg Murchie Bryce

Actually, my biggest concern is that I seem to remember that players must be rested after six consecutive matches. If weekends without fixtures mean that the clock is reset then we're fine as we only have five matches if we make the final. If not we could run out of players.

[tigertattie]

To be fair to Glasgow, I've found one thing better with it than Edinburgh!

In Glasgow, if you look north you see the start of the highlands!

In Edinburgh, if you look north, you see that start of Fife!

[R!skysports]

To be fair to Glasgow, I've found one thing better with it than Edinburgh!

In Glasgow, if you look north you see no teams above you the start of the highlands!

In Edinburgh, if you look north, many many many teams ahead of you you see that start of Fife!

Fixed that for you

[Nematode]

To be fair to Glasgow, I've found one thing better with it than Edinburgh!

In Glasgow, if you look north you see no teams above you the start of the highlands!

In Edinburgh, if you look north, many many many teams ahead of you you see that start of Fife!

Fixed that for you

In Glasgow, if you look north you see the 1872 cup. Oh, hang on

Fixed that for you

[RuggerRadge2611]

To be fair to Glasgow, I've found one thing better with it than Edinburgh!

In Glasgow, if you look north you see the start of the highlands!

In Edinburgh, if you look north, you see that start of Fife!

If tigertattie looks north from Edinburgh he won't see Fife he'll see this.

[tigertattie]

Ah come on radge, even you have to admit that Fife ain't as nice to look at as the trossachs!

[RuggerRadge2611]

Fife is about as attractive as the last chicken in the butcher's shop. That doesn't give you free reign to point this sort of stuff out.

[Weegie Wizard]

Now steady on. If it wasn't for Elie and Anstruther where would all the Glasgow Academy folk go on their Autumn holidays?

[R!skysports]

To be fair to Glasgow, I've found one thing better with it than Edinburgh!

In Glasgow, if you look north you see no teams above you the start of the highlands!

In Edinburgh, if you look north, many many many teams ahead of you you see that start of Fife!

Fixed that for you

In Glasgow, if you look north you see the 1872 cup. Oh, hang on

Fixed that for you

It is nice of you to take it for a year so that you can get FES butler to give it a good polish

It will be back in its rightful place next year after its vacation

[tigertattie]

To be fair to Glasgow, I've found one thing better with it than Edinburgh!

In Glasgow, if you look north you see no teams above you the start of the highlands!

In Edinburgh, if you look north, many many many teams ahead of you you see that start of Fife!

Fixed that for you

In Glasgow, if you look north you see the 1872 cup. Oh, hang on

Fixed that for you

It is nice of you to take it for a year so that you can get FES butler to give it a good polish

It will be back in its rightful place next year after its vacation

You mean in the trophy cabinet at Murrayfield, next to the Euro trophy we're looking to win this season?

Meanwhile, hanging the Glasgow trophy cabinet is a copy of Lee Jones' pension contributions

[funnyExiledScot]

Glasgow has a trophy cabinet??

[George Carlin]

Glasgow has a trophy cabinet??

Yes, we keep your long dessicated sense of humour in it.

Next to Bru's stones and an original signed first edition of 'Rugby Coaching for Sheilas' by Scott Johnson.

[Imperialbigdave]

Anyone watching Magnus Bradbury take Hawick to the cleaners in the cup final?

two great pacy tries for him in the first half hour.

[RDW]

Was about to post the same thing - he's having a barnstorming game.

He's bloody massive too!

[RDW]

Some Edinburgh involvement too with berghan and bezzy

[funnyExiledScot]

Really pleased to hear of Bradbury's progress. No more NSQ back row singings please!

[IanBru]

Glasgow has a trophy cabinet??

Yes, we keep your long dessicated sense of humour in it.

Next to Bru's stones and an original signed first edition of 'Rugby Coaching for Sheilas' by Scott Johnson.

The season ain't over yet. Buddy.

[IanBru]

So.... It'll be SHC v Laidlaw. Whatever happens with the match overall, that head-to-head is mouthwatering.

[CraigS1874]

interesting to see that there was a larger attendance at the club finals compared to edinburgh vs the dragons! Not sure if this proves that our club game is still strong or that the pro game is struggling to capitalize on the rugby population.

Bradbury is a monster. Bradbury, Ritchie and Ashe potentially the back row for 2019 world cup?

[RDW]

Don't believe that figure of 10k+ at all - Edinburgh game had most of the East stand full with plenty people standing too. From what I could see it was only the west stand today and it certainly couldn't be classed as full - maybe 4-5k.

Maybe it includes the number of free tickets given away, and the attendance spread across the whole day!

[George Carlin]

Sheesh - who is this media lady of loose morals who keeps being retweeted on the GW website?:

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