Summer Transfer Window Thread 15/16

by **Crimey** Tue May 26, 2015 4:57 pm

First topic message reminder :

Now the season is over, the rumours begin!

Milner/Ings to Liverpool seems likely.
Benitez to Real Madrid, Bale staying.
Falcao is desperate to move to Chelsea.
Otamendi and Dani Alves to Manchester United.
Raheem Sterling to Arsenal

What else?

by Guest Thu May 28, 2015 9:44 am

Rooney appalling picard

. Astonishing how little Wayne is appreciated, given the circumstances in which he found himself this season.

Wish you had to put up with an Obertan or a Williamson, they're the definition of appaling.

by Guest Thu May 28, 2015 9:51 am

Rooney ends up top league scorer, plays the majority of games in midfield, whereby he sacrificed himself for the greater good of the club, in the attempt to achieve the primary goal of a top 4, which was achieved.

Clearly appalling, Ent.

by Guest Thu May 28, 2015 10:54 am

Apparently, Liverpool looking to push forward a deal for Charlie Austin, with Rickie Lambert included in the deal

by Fernando Thu May 28, 2015 1:11 pm

Arsene is bringing out the banter this summer.

Get's linked with Schneiderlin/Vidal etc & today it's Ki Sung Yeung Laugh

Surprisingly i quite like Ki expecting him as Arteta replacement.

by compelling and rich Thu May 28, 2015 4:23 pm

John wrote:Rooney appalling . Astonishing how little Wayne is appreciated, given the circumstances in which he found himself this season.

Wish you had to put up with an Obertan or a Williamson, they're the definition of appaling.

i understand in the context of newcastle clearly rooney is better than that standard, but neither are you paying obertan or williamson 350,000 a week and making them club captain.

rooney was very poor in midfield, better when up front but was only doing a average job, nothing other than the likes of bit part players like Hernandez could have done. criticism comes because everybody tells us he's our best player, yet hasn't performed to that elite standard since 11/12 season

by compelling and rich Thu May 28, 2015 4:24 pm

LiamB wrote:Rooney ends up top league scorer, plays the majority of games in midfield, whereby he sacrificed himself for the greater good of the club, in the attempt to achieve the primary goal of a top 4, which was achieved.

Clearly appalling, Ent.

he didnt play majority of his games in midfield, started up front has a small stint playing in cm then moved back to striker again

by Guest Thu May 28, 2015 4:30 pm

compelling and rich wrote:
LiamB wrote:Rooney ends up top league scorer, plays the majority of games in midfield, whereby he sacrificed himself for the greater good of the club, in the attempt to achieve the primary goal of a top 4, which was achieved.

Clearly appalling, Ent.

he didnt play majority of his games in midfield, started up front has a small stint playing in cm then moved back to striker again

there was no 'small stint' about it. more like a prolonged period, huge media scrutiny for months regarding his positioning & then fan pressure on LVG to change it. at the end of the day, he sacrificed his own game for the greater good & you achieved fourth. He's ageing now, so is never going to recapture form of three or four years ago. just think the criticism is harsh, judging by the fact he has to carry a whole bunch of awfulness that he's surrounded by on the pitch.

by compelling and rich Thu May 28, 2015 4:36 pm

he played there couple of months over a 10 month season, hardly the majority!

if he's been carrying us, why wasnt he voted our player of the year. why wasnt he even close to being in the running being outperformed by the likes of ashley young!

by Nakatomi Plaza Thu May 28, 2015 4:39 pm

Carlton Cole's been released by West Ham again.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu May 28, 2015 5:13 pm

Poor old Carlton ;(

Rooney was the only striker Man United had who made any contribution. De Gea and Carrick were better than him, that's really it. Young was only good by the low expectations, whilst Herrera and Fellaini were good for a small spell. Blind maybe had a better season, but it was a sheer incompetent race for 4th that let United get away with falling over the line into 4th.

by Guest Thu May 28, 2015 5:17 pm

Bournemouth sign Joshua King

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu May 28, 2015 5:56 pm

John wrote:Bournemouth sign Joshua King

I like the principle of signing lower league guys - but King is dog crap and Federici is not good enough anymore

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu May 28, 2015 11:50 pm

Federici is probably as good as Ruddy...

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri May 29, 2015 2:26 am

Benteke has a get-out clause, reported as £32.5m.

Ings will decide his next club before he joins up with the England U21s.

Liverpool fail with £10m bid for Clyne.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri May 29, 2015 7:06 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Federici is probably as good as Ruddy...

He really really isn't - mid-lower end championship keeper now is federici

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri May 29, 2015 7:08 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Benteke has a get-out clause, reported as £32.5m.

Ings will decide his next club before he joins up with the England U21s.

Liverpool fail with £10m bid for Clyne.

Not sure why Liverpool are after Benteke - doesn't fit their style of play at all

by **Hero** Fri May 29, 2015 7:47 am

Mentioned it on the podcast last night but with sterling wanting out and Arsenal being one of the clubs keen why doesn't Liverpool look to get Walcott as part of the deal, he's become a bit part player now at Arsenal yet could flourish under Liverpool's style of play.

by Guest Fri May 29, 2015 9:34 am

Tottenham sign Wimmer, add to the fact they've tried to sign Trippier & Ings, you can already guarantee next season is a failure. Where's the ambition with these types of signings? Club going nowhere.

As for Liverpool, just further embarrassing themselves, with pathetic bids, that are massively undervaluing a player. Another club going nowhere.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Fri May 29, 2015 10:13 am

LiamB wrote:As for Liverpool, just further embarrassing themselves, with pathetic bids, that are massively undervaluing a player. Another club going nowhere.

Can't win, we either pay over the odds or don't bid enough Erm

by **Crimey** Fri May 29, 2015 11:31 am

To be fair Nathaniel Clyne is entering the last year of his contract so would naturally come cheaper.

Theo Walcott would be good, but is he fit? Hard to tell if he has recovered from his injuries.

I think the point with signing Benteke is the fact that our style isn't necessarily working, but I do think that Benteke is actually a bit limited as a forward, Aston Villa struggled when they weren't giving him a lot of service and I think the same will happen if he came to Liverpool. I also don't think he's worth £32.5 million.

by **Hero** Fri May 29, 2015 11:51 am

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
LiamB wrote:As for Liverpool, just further embarrassing themselves, with pathetic bids, that are massively undervaluing a player. Another club going nowhere.

Can't win, we either pay over the odds or don't bid enough

Brendan Rodgers, the Goldilocks of football.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri May 29, 2015 1:15 pm

Crimey wrote:To be fair Nathaniel Clyne is entering the last year of his contract so would naturally come cheaper.

Theo Walcott would be good, but is he fit? Hard to tell if he has recovered from his injuries.

I think the point with signing Benteke is the fact that our style isn't necessarily working, but I do think that Benteke is actually a bit limited as a forward, Aston Villa struggled when they weren't giving him a lot of service and I think the same will happen if he came to Liverpool. I also don't think he's worth £32.5 million.

I just don't think he'd link well with the Sturridge/Sterling/Coutinho three way. He's more of a lump it upto me and we'll play off me which isn't the way the top teams play or have to play.

£32 million is also ludicrous money for him

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Fri May 29, 2015 1:41 pm

Hero wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
LiamB wrote:As for Liverpool, just further embarrassing themselves, with pathetic bids, that are massively undervaluing a player. Another club going nowhere.

Can't win, we either pay over the odds or don't bid enough

Brendan Rodgers, the Goldilocks of football.

by Nico the gman Fri May 29, 2015 1:47 pm

Olly wrote:
Crimey wrote:To be fair Nathaniel Clyne is entering the last year of his contract so would naturally come cheaper.

Theo Walcott would be good, but is he fit? Hard to tell if he has recovered from his injuries.

I think the point with signing Benteke is the fact that our style isn't necessarily working, but I do think that Benteke is actually a bit limited as a forward, Aston Villa struggled when they weren't giving him a lot of service and I think the same will happen if he came to Liverpool. I also don't think he's worth £32.5 million.

I just don't think he'd link well with the Sturridge/Sterling/Coutinho three way. He's more of a lump it upto me and we'll play off me which isn't the way the top teams play or have to play.

£32 million is also ludicrous money for him

Hi Olly sorry to jump on your thread, apparently the One Boro Forum has said that Norwich has given the Boro the full Wembley gate receipts, due to receiving the £120 mill promotion money, if that's true what a great gesture.

by GSC Fri May 29, 2015 2:21 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
LiamB wrote:As for Liverpool, just further embarrassing themselves, with pathetic bids, that are massively undervaluing a player. Another club going nowhere.

Can't win, we either pay over the odds or don't bid enough

Schrödinger's Transfer Bid

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Fri May 29, 2015 2:24 pm

by GSC Fri May 29, 2015 3:35 pm

Seems Carlos headed back to AC

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri May 29, 2015 4:16 pm

Benteke is exactly what Liverpool need. Hold up play, running behind, physicality and a pretty decent goals record in a team that doesnt create loads. They have enough of the same type of player, they need some variation.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri May 29, 2015 4:29 pm

Bidding £10mil for Clyne is a bit ridiculous, he'll cost at least that and as we found out with Baines, if you start insultingly low then it becomes far harder to come to an agreement.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri May 29, 2015 5:06 pm

Chelsea have contacted Falcao's representatives apparently, and Gundogan is close to joining Bayern.

West Ham likely to sign a backup keeper tomorrow.

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri May 29, 2015 5:06 pm

LiamB wrote:Tottenham sign Wimmer, add to the fact they've tried to sign Trippier & Ings, you can already guarantee next season is a failure. Where's the ambition with these types of signings? Club going nowhere.

As for Liverpool, just further embarrassing themselves, with pathetic bids, that are massively undervaluing a player. Another club going nowhere.

Think that's harsh on Spurs. Like Arsenal ten years ago, they're going to be handicapped by paying for a new stadium for the next few seasons. Their also likely to be a bit gunshy about splashing out big abroad after the disaster that was the 2013 summer transfer window. They're not the biggest wage payers anyway, don't have Champions League football, so aren't the most attractive proposition.

Ings would be an upgrade on Adebayor/Soldado, but is likely to go to Liverpool anyway.

by GSC Fri May 29, 2015 5:12 pm

They signed a 22 year old for fairly cheap.

Obviously that's their window finished

by **Crimey** Fri May 29, 2015 5:18 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Bidding £10mil for Clyne is a bit ridiculous, he'll cost at least that and as we found out with Baines, if you start insultingly low then it becomes far harder to come to an agreement.

Again, his contract has only a year left and he doesn't look like he is planning to a sign a new one. That will mean that they will have to sell him most likely under value, or risk losing him for free.

Is he worth £20 million? I don't think so, but possibly in the current climate, considering he's English, young and would be another player sold from Southampton to Liverpool. So if you then add the fact that he's in his last year, £10 million isn't too ridiculous, maybe a few million under what he should be sold for, but not insultingly low at all.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri May 29, 2015 5:28 pm

Atsu has signed on loan with Bournemouth.

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri May 29, 2015 5:44 pm

Thomas Sorensen, Wilson Palacios and Andy Wilkinson have been released by Stoke.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri May 29, 2015 6:17 pm

French media believe West Ham, Stoke and Bournemouth are in for Max Gradel. We're linked every window so not sure if its just a lazy rehash.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri May 29, 2015 6:38 pm

Crimey, one year on his contract or not £10mil is an insulting bid for Clyne, Southampton won't sell him cheaply and they're not in a position where they have to sell players.

by GSC Fri May 29, 2015 6:40 pm

Gradels a talented player.

Better than Snodgrass for sure

by Jermaine2015 Fri May 29, 2015 10:07 pm

Bild reporting that FC Bayern will complete the signing of BVB Dortmund midfielder Ilkay Gundogan tomorrow. If true it's an excellent signing for FC Bayern as we need fresh legs in the middle of the park. I'm all for signing the best German players, that said BVB will be bitterly disappointed.

Now if only we could 'steal' Mats Hummels and Marco Reus...

by Guest Fri May 29, 2015 10:16 pm

disappointing move in my eyes. moving from dortmund to bayern is so predictable. he's won everything in germany already, he might challenge for champions league more often now, but it's just a nothing move really. i'd rather see him challenge himself in another competitive league & show some more ambition, instead of seeing his old dortmund weakened & seeing the bundesliga wrapped up by xmas. since his injuries hasnt been the player he was, might regain it under pep, before he jumps ship. guess bastian will be moving on now, cough old trafford.

by Jermaine2015 Fri May 29, 2015 10:24 pm

LiamB wrote:disappointing move in my eyes. moving from dortmund to bayern is so predictable. he's won everything in germany already, he might challenge for champions league more often now, but it's just a nothing move really. i'd rather see him challenge himself in another competitive league & show some more ambition, instead of seeing his old dortmund weakened & seeing the bundesliga wrapped up by xmas. since his injuries hasnt been the player he was, might regain it under pep, before he jumps ship. guess bastian will be moving on now, cough old trafford.

I disagree entirely. By joining FC Bayern(holding my breath) it helps with national team selection, which after missing the World Cup would be very important for Gundogan. If he does replace Bastian Schweinsteiger, it's a massive show of faith by FC Bayern as Gundogan has been injured a lot in the last 18-24 months. Coupled with the fact Schweinsteiger is the captain of Germany. Massive shoes to fill.

by **Crimey** Fri May 29, 2015 10:29 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Crimey, one year on his contract or not £10mil is an insulting bid for Clyne, Southampton won't sell him cheaply and they're not in a position where they have to sell players.

I totally disagree, £10 million isn't his value, but as a starting bid it is a long way from insulting. They don't have to sell players to raise funds, but to allow him to run his contract down so they get nothing would be stupid when they could between £10-£15 million for him now.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri May 29, 2015 11:16 pm

The thing is we all know that Southampton are not gonna be interested in £10m, so Liverpool must have known.

by **Crimey** Sat May 30, 2015 7:34 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:The thing is we all know that Southampton are not gonna be interested in £10m, so Liverpool must have known.

It's a starting big, I think it's pretty clear Liverpool didn't think it was going to be accepted, it's a bid essentially to declare interest in the player. I'm assuming what Liverpool want is for Clyne to push for the deal to get him out, forcing Southampton's hand, meaning they can get a lower deal.

Liverpool will not be the first or the last team to bid lower then the value of the player at the very beginning. It's far from an insulting bid though.

by Guest Sat May 30, 2015 11:19 am

Is Jackson Martinez Arsenal bound?

by Guest Sat May 30, 2015 3:19 pm

West Ham United sign Darren Randolph from Birmingham City

by Holymiky Sat May 30, 2015 6:52 pm

According to Sky Sources, Falcao is in talks with Chelsea.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat May 30, 2015 6:55 pm

LiamB wrote:West Ham United sign Darren Randolph from Birmingham City

Better pray Adrian doesn't get injured Dolph

by Guest Sat May 30, 2015 6:59 pm

Holymiky wrote:According to Sky Sources, Falcao is in talks with Chelsea.

was obvious. same agent as mourinho, isnt it? london appeals, its a top club & costa is injury prone, so ample opportunity for radamel.

by Holymiky Sat May 30, 2015 7:25 pm

John wrote:
Holymiky wrote:According to Sky Sources, Falcao is in talks with Chelsea.

was obvious. same agent as mourinho, isnt it? london appeals, its a top club & costa is injury prone, so ample opportunity for radamel.

I read that he has the same agent as Jose Mourinho so i think you are correct there.

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