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Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by George Carlin Thu 02 Jul 2015, 11:18 am
First topic message reminder :
Previous RWC related nonsense:
https://www.606v2.com/t58234p1000-scotland-world-cup-look-ahead-and-squad
Game 1:
IRELAND v SCOTLAND
15 August 2015
KO: 17:00 local
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
Game 2:
ITALY v SCOTLAND
22 August 2015
KO: 15:00 local
Stadio Olimpico di Torino, Turin
Game 3:
SCOTLAND v ITALY
29 August 2015
KO: 15:15 local
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Game 4:
FRANCE v SCOTLAND
05 September 2015
KO: 21:00 local
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
Previous RWC related nonsense:
https://www.606v2.com/t58234p1000-scotland-world-cup-look-ahead-and-squad
Game 1:
IRELAND v SCOTLAND
15 August 2015
KO: 17:00 local
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
Game 2:
ITALY v SCOTLAND
22 August 2015
KO: 15:00 local
Stadio Olimpico di Torino, Turin
Game 3:
SCOTLAND v ITALY
29 August 2015
KO: 15:15 local
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Game 4:
FRANCE v SCOTLAND
05 September 2015
KO: 21:00 local
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sun 16 Aug 2015, 7:54 pm
Think Mr H Hagrid is now finished. Blake looked ok but needs some serious game time. He will get this time when VC robs The Ws of 95% of GTs first choice 23 and HB comes home to Scotstoun.
Denton was good until that feckin' outrageous missed opportunity with a 3 man overlap. He cannot pass/throw a rugby ball ffs !!!!
Denton was good until that feckin' outrageous missed opportunity with a 3 man overlap. He cannot pass/throw a rugby ball ffs !!!!
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by Notch Sun 16 Aug 2015, 7:59 pm
I enjoyed Scotlands performance yesterday. Loads of attacking intent, and unlike a few years ago, actually looking dangerous when you move the ball. Finn Russell will add to that immeasurably. As an outsider I still think Hidalgo-Clyne is the way to go but your problems in the halfbacks were certainly not at 9... 10 and 15 would be where the main changes need made, other than the front row.
It must be said that Ireland aided you in your attacking play with some pish poor defence, thats our biggest work-on, but Cotter has you looking very dangerous with plenty of talented backs yet to come back in the picture. He seems to have improved the structure of your play. We'll see whether the tight five has the beef when a few other players come in, and you need to get your support to the ball carrier quicker- especially against a team like Ireland that like to target the breakdown- but it was promising. Scotland vs Samoa is shaping up to be very tasty.
It must be said that Ireland aided you in your attacking play with some pish poor defence, thats our biggest work-on, but Cotter has you looking very dangerous with plenty of talented backs yet to come back in the picture. He seems to have improved the structure of your play. We'll see whether the tight five has the beef when a few other players come in, and you need to get your support to the ball carrier quicker- especially against a team like Ireland that like to target the breakdown- but it was promising. Scotland vs Samoa is shaping up to be very tasty.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by jimbopip Sun 16 Aug 2015, 8:03 pm
Shuggie B will love Scotstoun. (Who wouldn't?)
The back row didn't defend at all in the first ten minutes. At least not in terms of slowing opposition ball or stopping mauls. If the scrum is an eight man co-ordinated effort then 1-8 need to look at themselves. We all know Dozer can look great going forward, although he did look hungry yesterday, but the defensive performance from the back row as a unit was awol for the first 10 minutes.
The back row didn't defend at all in the first ten minutes. At least not in terms of slowing opposition ball or stopping mauls. If the scrum is an eight man co-ordinated effort then 1-8 need to look at themselves. We all know Dozer can look great going forward, although he did look hungry yesterday, but the defensive performance from the back row as a unit was awol for the first 10 minutes.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by George Carlin Mon 17 Aug 2015, 12:08 pm
Vern and Henners keeping it real:
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by George Carlin Mon 17 Aug 2015, 12:11 pm
Just seen the Samoan RWC squad:
Forwards: Ole Avei (Bordeaux Begles), Manu Leiataua (Aurillac), Motu Matu’u (Wellington Hurricanes), Viliamu Afatia (Agen), Jake Grey (Samoa Scopa), Logovi’i Mulipola (Leicester Tigers), Anthony Perenise (Bristol), Sakaria Taulafo (Stade Français), Fa’atiga Lemalu (Bourgoin), Filo Paulo (Benetton Treviso), Joe Tekori (Toulouse), Kane Thompson (Newcastle Falcons), Maurie Fa’asavalu (Oyonnax), Alafoti Faosiliva (Bath), Jack Lam (Bristol), Ofisa Treviranus (capt, London Irish), TJ Ioane (Sale Sharks), Sanele Vavae Tuilagi (Carcassonne).
Backs: Vavao Afemai (Samoa Vaiala), Kahn Fotuali’i (Northampton Saints), Patrick Fa’apale (Samoa Vaiala), Tusi Pisi (Suntory Sungoliath), Michael Stanley (unattached), Rey Lee-Lo (Cardiff Blues), Johnny Leota (Sale Sharks), Paul Perez (Coastal Sharks), George Pisi (Northampton Saints), Fa’atoina Autagavaia (Nevers), Ken Pisi (Northampton Saints), Alesana Tuilagi (Newcastle Falcons), Tim Nanai-Williams (Ricoh Black Rams).
- 3 Pisi Brothers! They're like the Bee Gees - there's always at least one more than you thought.
- Brown trousers time at the thought of packing down against a Mulipola and Perenise front row.
- We just need to keep enough players healthy for this last game.
Forwards: Ole Avei (Bordeaux Begles), Manu Leiataua (Aurillac), Motu Matu’u (Wellington Hurricanes), Viliamu Afatia (Agen), Jake Grey (Samoa Scopa), Logovi’i Mulipola (Leicester Tigers), Anthony Perenise (Bristol), Sakaria Taulafo (Stade Français), Fa’atiga Lemalu (Bourgoin), Filo Paulo (Benetton Treviso), Joe Tekori (Toulouse), Kane Thompson (Newcastle Falcons), Maurie Fa’asavalu (Oyonnax), Alafoti Faosiliva (Bath), Jack Lam (Bristol), Ofisa Treviranus (capt, London Irish), TJ Ioane (Sale Sharks), Sanele Vavae Tuilagi (Carcassonne).
Backs: Vavao Afemai (Samoa Vaiala), Kahn Fotuali’i (Northampton Saints), Patrick Fa’apale (Samoa Vaiala), Tusi Pisi (Suntory Sungoliath), Michael Stanley (unattached), Rey Lee-Lo (Cardiff Blues), Johnny Leota (Sale Sharks), Paul Perez (Coastal Sharks), George Pisi (Northampton Saints), Fa’atoina Autagavaia (Nevers), Ken Pisi (Northampton Saints), Alesana Tuilagi (Newcastle Falcons), Tim Nanai-Williams (Ricoh Black Rams).
- 3 Pisi Brothers! They're like the Bee Gees - there's always at least one more than you thought.
- Brown trousers time at the thought of packing down against a Mulipola and Perenise front row.
- We just need to keep enough players healthy for this last game.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by jimbopip Mon 17 Aug 2015, 12:14 pm
Ticket for the Boks game just arrived.
Bru bro, look out your dancing shoes. I'm on my way.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by jimbopip Mon 17 Aug 2015, 12:26 pm
But that's your delivery room special!
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by IanBru Mon 17 Aug 2015, 2:13 pm
Jim, I'm disappointed that you'd think I wouldn't have a spare set of tails!
[strides out to the photocopier, twirling a cane]
[strides out to the photocopier, twirling a cane]
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by 21st Century Schizoid Man Mon 17 Aug 2015, 7:15 pm
Are you guys taking stuff ?!!!!!!!
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by jimbopip Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:38 pm
I see, VC brings the Warriors third choice hooker into the squad, plays Tonks at 10, leaves Meatball on the bench for 80 minutes, keeps playing Cowan, has Frodo the Glacial in the squad and you ask me if myself and Twinkletoes are taking stuff?
Apart from the odd Play Station 4, plasma TV and car left with keys in the ignition , no we're not.
Apart from the odd Play Station 4, plasma TV and car left with keys in the ignition , no we're not.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by 21st Century Schizoid Man Mon 17 Aug 2015, 10:11 pm
Well you could have fooled me !!!!!!!!! 
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by George Carlin Tue 18 Aug 2015, 8:32 am
Morrison in the Hootsmon - all fair enough:
Iain Morrison picks out five pros and five cons from Scotland’s defeat to Ireland in Dublin
Pros
1 Almost every outside back brought something to the party with the Scots looking dangerous in attack and the ball “out the back” working well in creating space wide.
2 The Scots held firm in that opening quarter when they could have collapsed under pressure from the Irish forwards. They conceded one softish try to Chris Henry but it could have been so much worse.
3 Two new caps, Hugh Blake and Mike Cusack, made solid contributions. The set scrum was better with Cusack in harness and Blake silenced the critics even if the Kiwi didn’t do enough to push himself far up the openside pecking order.
4 Scotland scored three tries in Dublin, and Cotter’s determination to attack with the ball in hand seems to be paying dividends. Will they risk the same fast and loose style against a very fast and loose Japanese team?
5 Grant Gilchrist played his first game for ten months and managed the full 80 minutes while David Denton returned from his concussion problems with no ill-effects. Apart from ignoring one screaming overlap, the Edinburgh eight made a huge contribution to the Scotland cause. Just like old times.
Cons
1 The rolling maul is a gaping chasm in Scotland’s armour and every opposition coach will be practising it. Italy mauled two tries past Scotland in the Six Nations and Ireland would have scored two had the Scots not conceded the penalty. In the World Cup it will come with a yellow card attached.
2 The set scrum is an issue because the Scots were under the cosh from the off and, despite his tag, David “Killer” Kilcoyne is far from the scariest of the front row beasts Scotland will encounter in the coming weeks.
3 Too often the Scots were reduced to the role of spectators as Simon Zebo and Tommy Bowe regained possession from numerous high balls.
4 Despite picking two out and out loosies the Scots still lost the battle of the breakdown to a team that has made this area their own. Too many Scots found themselves isolated. The only answer is getting numbers there in good time.
5 Variety is the spice of life and the key to Scotland’s kicking from hand lacked vision, precision and ambition. Greig Tonks didn’t play badly but he needs more time and that commodity is in short supply.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by jimbopip Tue 18 Aug 2015, 10:59 am
On point 5 above; a 10 who hasn't got a good kicking game is like a hooker who can't throw or a lawyer who can't bill creatively. In that sense Jackson and Weir must still be ahead of Tonks.
Will be in the squad if fit
Hogg
Seymour
scrum halves x3
Dancer
Furra Linee
Dunbar
So , if we're taking 13 backs that leaves four spaces. We need another winger, someone who can cover full-back, cover at 10 and an outside centre.
NoMaits plays wing and can cover 15. But if he's playing 15 we still need another winger.
Tonks/Jackson; Vern seems to like the idea of one of them being there to cover 10/15. Since it looks like 9-15 could all come from Glasgow then I would suggest Jackson would be more in tune with the way they play. Unless he plays this week and looks very good then I think Meatball will be lining up against the Scaahletts.
McMisser/Schlong; running in tries- Big Tim, defending and covering 13-Schlong.
Vernon; if there are any doubts about Bennett then Vernon is the only 13 left. Unless we go with Matt Scott12 at 13, and that didn't work for the MFL. My theory is they put him there to protect his shoulder and that only fed his anxieties. We do need to see if he is fit enough to play, then he may go as Furra Linee's back up if Dunbar doesn't go.
So, my four; NoMaits, Schlong, Jackson then Vernon if we need 13 covered (which we will) or Tonks/Scott if we need to replace Dunbar(which we probably will).
All that time we scoffed at Horne Furra Linee playing 10. 12 and 15 for the Warriors for not being good enough to nail down one position and now he's becoming indispensable to Scotland.
All that time we felt smug having Scott and Dunbar in the centres: the most exciting young pairing in europe and they may both sit out the World Cup.
Will be in the squad if fit
Hogg
Seymour
scrum halves x3
Dancer
Furra Linee
Dunbar
So , if we're taking 13 backs that leaves four spaces. We need another winger, someone who can cover full-back, cover at 10 and an outside centre.
NoMaits plays wing and can cover 15. But if he's playing 15 we still need another winger.
Tonks/Jackson; Vern seems to like the idea of one of them being there to cover 10/15. Since it looks like 9-15 could all come from Glasgow then I would suggest Jackson would be more in tune with the way they play. Unless he plays this week and looks very good then I think Meatball will be lining up against the Scaahletts.
McMisser/Schlong; running in tries- Big Tim, defending and covering 13-Schlong.
Vernon; if there are any doubts about Bennett then Vernon is the only 13 left. Unless we go with Matt Scott12 at 13, and that didn't work for the MFL. My theory is they put him there to protect his shoulder and that only fed his anxieties. We do need to see if he is fit enough to play, then he may go as Furra Linee's back up if Dunbar doesn't go.
So, my four; NoMaits, Schlong, Jackson then Vernon if we need 13 covered (which we will) or Tonks/Scott if we need to replace Dunbar(which we probably will).
All that time we scoffed at Horne Furra Linee playing 10. 12 and 15 for the Warriors for not being good enough to nail down one position and now he's becoming indispensable to Scotland.
All that time we felt smug having Scott and Dunbar in the centres: the most exciting young pairing in europe and they may both sit out the World Cup.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by 21st Century Schizoid Man Tue 18 Aug 2015, 10:53 pm
Really sad for Both Dunbar and Scott if they both miss out
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by jimbopip Tue 18 Aug 2015, 11:03 pm
21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Really sad for Both Dunbar and Scott if they both miss out
Do you know something we don't?
Seriously , if we take four centres
Hornee Furra Linee must go on present form he is out there on his own. In a good way, of course.
Richie V is the only other one who is playing regularly.
is the only 13 apart from Vernon.So, Dunbar and Scott12 looking at one slot.
If everyone is fit then the most sensible option is Bennett and Vernon as 13's and Horne and A N Other at 12. No matter how often I say it it still seems wrong, but at least one of Dunbar and Scott will miss out.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by EWT Spoons Wed 19 Aug 2015, 9:11 am
I think it's looking increasingly likely that Dunbar isn't going to be ready. He's running out of games before the WC kicks off, and as far as I know, is still in America going through rehab.
To ask him to come back straight into a World Cup match without playing any other rugby for 6-7 months is a big ask.
Any word on Bennett? He was apparently nearly fit enough to play in the last match but was being left out because he wasn't 100%, and is also being left out of the game against Italy. I can only imagine he'll play in the return fixture.
I still reckon the last game against the French will be a write off with players not selected for the WC playing, just to see if they could come inshould when we get an injury.
Home game to Italy I think will be our strongest team (build confidence by playing a team in theory we should beat at home), the rest will just be trying out some combinations
To ask him to come back straight into a World Cup match without playing any other rugby for 6-7 months is a big ask.
Any word on Bennett? He was apparently nearly fit enough to play in the last match but was being left out because he wasn't 100%, and is also being left out of the game against Italy. I can only imagine he'll play in the return fixture.
I still reckon the last game against the French will be a write off with players not selected for the WC playing, just to see if they could come in
Home game to Italy I think will be our strongest team (build confidence by playing a team in theory we should beat at home), the rest will just be trying out some combinations
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by cp10 Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:53 pm
Scottish Rugby Twitter wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Seven players released from the extended Scotland squad for Rugby World Cup
Scottish Rugby Twitter wrote:
@GlasgowWarriors' Cusack and Hughes; and @EdinburghRugby's Dell, Fife, Hoyland Toolis and will rejoin their clubs.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by Captain_Sensible Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:54 pm
cp10 wrote:Scottish Rugby Twitter wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Seven players released from the extended Scotland squad for Rugby World CupScottish Rugby Twitter wrote:
@GlasgowWarriors' Cusack and Hughes; and @EdinburghRugby's Dell, Fife, Hoyland Toolis and will rejoin their clubs.
Eh, that's only six...
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by RDW Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:56 pm
I've posted this on the match thread to avoid duplication
https://www.606v2.com/t60192-scotland-v-italy-29-august#3118999
https://www.606v2.com/t60192-scotland-v-italy-29-august#3118999
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by IanBru Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:59 pm
But who is the SEVENTH?? This is like Battlestar Galactica all over again!
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by highland_scot Mon 24 Aug 2015, 1:08 pm
IanBru wrote:But who is the SEVENTH?? This is like Battlestar Galactica all over again!
Seemingly Watson?
https://twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/635784696937508864
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by madmaccas Mon 24 Aug 2015, 1:18 pm
EWT Spoons wrote:I think it's looking increasingly likely that Dunbar isn't going to be ready. He's running out of games before the WC kicks off, and as far as I know, is still in America going through rehab.
He got back from the US over a month ago. He's been taking part in training since. Not sure if it's been full contact, but he's meant to be on track.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-3170142/Alex-Dunbar-determined-defy-injury-jinx-Scotland-centre.html
Then, to speed up his chances of recovery after knee reconstruction surgery, the SRU sent him to the Philadelphia clinic of rehabilitation specialist Bill Knowles, who has helped the likes of Tiger Woods, Jonny Wilkinson and Wayne Rooney.
Having now arrived back in Scotland, the 25-year-old from Dumfries is confident that after a final consultation with Williams in London in two weeks' time, he will return to full training and be fit for the big kick-off in September.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by EWT Spoons Mon 24 Aug 2015, 1:46 pm
Cool, glad he's back. I still think he's running out of time though, and I really don't want him to rush back considering the damage he could do if he's not quite ready.
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by demosthenes Mon 24 Aug 2015, 2:01 pm
cp10 wrote:Scottish Rugby Twitter wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Seven players released from the extended Scotland squad for Rugby World CupScottish Rugby Twitter wrote:
@GlasgowWarriors' Cusack and Hughes; and @EdinburghRugby's Dell, Fife, Hoyland Toolis and will rejoin their clubs.
Hopefully the release of Hughes, Fife, and Hoyland means that Maitland will be fit. Although that could be me being optimistic....
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by funnyExiledScot Mon 24 Aug 2015, 2:05 pm
Re: Cusack I just don't think he managed to get himself fit enough, but it was a pretty decent effort given his lack of rugby in the last 12 months. Great news for Glasgow as well. Now they have two tightheads.....
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by cakeordeath Mon 24 Aug 2015, 2:42 pm
IanBru wrote:But who is the SEVENTH?? This is like Battlestar Galactica all over again!
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Re: Scotland RWC Warm-up Matches
by R!skysports Mon 24 Aug 2015, 2:48 pm
demosthenes wrote:cp10 wrote:Scottish Rugby Twitter wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Seven players released from the extended Scotland squad for Rugby World CupScottish Rugby Twitter wrote:
@GlasgowWarriors' Cusack and Hughes; and @EdinburghRugby's Dell, Fife, Hoyland Toolis and will rejoin their clubs.
Hopefully the release of Hughes, Fife, and Hoyland means that Maitland will be fit. Although that could be me being optimistic....
You do have to start wondering if we will have more NZers in the team that Scots.....
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