Scotland v South Africa, 3 October

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SCOTLAND V SOUTH AFRICA
3 October 2015
KO: 16:45 BST
St. James' Park, Newcastle

Live on [tbc]

Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Touch judges: Chris Pollock (New Zealand) & Leighton Hodges (Wales)
Television match official: George Ayoub (Australia)

A. Head to Head

25 Played 25
5 Won 20
0 Drawn 0
20 Lost 5
270 Points 652

B. Recent Form

28 June 2014
Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth
55 – 6 to South Africa

17 November 2013
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 28 to South Africa

15 June 2013
Mbombela Stadium, Nelspruit
30 – 17 to South Africa

17 November 2012
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 21 to South Africa

20 November 2010
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
21 – 17 to Scotland

15 November 2008
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 14 to South Africa

C. Teams

SCOTLAND
 
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 35 caps; 9 tries, 2 pens, 51 points

14 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 8 tries, 40 points
13 Richie Vernon (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps
12 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 31 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 22 caps; 10 tries, 50 points

10 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps; 2 tries, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 52 points
09 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester) – 43 caps; 3 tries, 51 cons, 92 pens, 393 points


01 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
02 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
03 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 5 caps; 1 try, 5 points
04 Richie Gray (Castres) – 48 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
05 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 16 caps; 1 try, 5 points
06 Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
07 Blair Cowan (London Irish) – 13 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
08 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby) – 29 caps


16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 91 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 49 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
18 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 9 caps; 1 try, 5 points
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 14 caps
20 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby) – 7 caps
22 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
23 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) – 98 caps; 14 tries, 70 points

SOUTH AFRICA

01. Tendai Mtawarira
02. Bismarck Du Plessis
03. Jannie Du Plessis
04. Eben Etzebeth
05. Lodewyk De Jager
06. Francois Louw
07. Schalk Burger
08. Duane Vermeulen

09. Fourie Du Preez (captain)
10. Handre Pollard
11. Bryan Habana
12. Damian De Allende
13. Jesse Kriel
14. JP Pietersen
15. Willie Le Roux

16. Adriaan Strauss
17. Trevor Nyakane
18. Frans Malherbe
19. Pieter-Steph Du Toit
20. Willem Alberts
21. Ruan Pienaar
22. Pat Lambie
23. Jan Serfontein

Pure frustration from laidlaw there

Jaysus if Hogg's dive deserved a yellow then that also did from Habana, not that Habana has a history of diving

That's not forward if Keith Earls passes it.

I'm having a whip round to send Hogg on passing classes.

Rubbish from Owens there, clear knock on missed.

Probably because he was trying to spot himself on tv

Chunky Norwich wrote:That's not forward if Keith Earls passes it.

Ahh bless you chunky, even when Ireland are not even playing you have to get your pure hatred of Ireland in somewhere

tigertattie wrote:I'm having a whip round to send Hogg on passing classes.

Ronaldo...

If we stopped given teams such a big head start we would stand a much better chance of winning!

Chunky Norwich wrote:That's not forward if Keith Earls passes it.

Can you not take your xenophobic childish nonsense elsewhere. This is a South Africa v Scotland thread. Try not to ruin it.

Weir's kicks to the touch from penalties are a thing of pure shoite...

Guys, I can only see his posts when people quote him - might be an idea to add him to your ignore lists. Bare in mind this is an individual of such integrity that he gets banned from a rugby board for racism.

Yellow was a bit unfortunate but Scotland are still in this.

eirebilly wrote:

Chunky Norwich wrote:That's not forward if Keith Earls passes it.

Ahh bless you chunky, even when Ireland are not even playing you have to get your pure hatred of Ireland in somewhere

Yeah, just like the Liam Williams lovers here.

Artful_Dodger wrote:Guys, I can only see his posts when people quote him - might be an idea to add him to your ignore lists.  Bare in mind this is an individual of such integrity that he gets banned from a rugby board for racism.  

Sorry, Dodger. Won't be replying to him on this thread again anyway. I'm enjoying a game of rugby.

Ohhh 7 point game, it's on again!

ok 10 point game...

Munchkin wrote:

Chunky Norwich wrote:That's not forward if Keith Earls passes it.

Can you not take your xenophobic childish nonsense elsewhere. This is a South Africa v Scotland thread. Try not to ruin it.

You clearly don't know what Xenophobic means.

This thread should also be about the officiating. Which is deplorable.

Really wish we had our first XV out there! Could have been winning this.

Still hoping for at least a losing bonus point

This may be seen as a pretty much second XV for Scotland but they have done reasonably well in my opinion. Highlights their desperation to get to the quarters than win the match but even more glaringly, it highlights SA's poor game right now. Cant see them getting past the 1/4 finals.

Ronaldo's off, probably strained something while rolling around on the floor.

Silly penalty to give away there.

eirebilly wrote:This may be seen as a pretty much second XV for Scotland but they have done reasonably well in my opinion. Highlights their desperation to get to the quarters than win the match but even more glaringly, it highlights SA's poor game right now. Cant see them getting past the 1/4 finals.

It depends on what Wales, England or Australia have left after their pool to be honest. Their all looking bashed up.

eirebilly wrote:This may be seen as a pretty much second XV for Scotland but they have done reasonably well in my opinion. Highlights their desperation to get to the quarters than win the match but even more glaringly, it highlights SA's poor game right now. Cant see them getting past the 1/4 finals.

It depends on what Wales, England or Australia have left after their pool to be honest. Their all looking bashed up.

Omg. A high tackle being picked up on???

Nothing in that tackle.

TMO wanted a yellow card.

Good man Owens.

Pathetic from TMO and Nigel owens. If that was a Uragyuan he'd be off.

Excellent officiating there but I did not like the SA 9 calling him a cheat...

The Dutch commentary are saying that Tim Visser has been the most important player for Scotland... Crediting him for their try

Double movement?

Great try SA looking good as Scotland fade.

Will be interesting to see just how many tackles Blair Cowan has made today!

eirebilly wrote:Double movement?

No, clearly placed it straight away

eirebilly wrote:The Dutch commentary are saying that Tim Visser has been the most important player for Scotland... Crediting him for their try

It's like the Belfast Telegraph when there's only one Ulsterman on the pitch for Ireland, in other words

No double movement, looked it at first to me but well taken from Habana.

eirebilly wrote:The Dutch commentary are saying that Tim Visser has been the most important player for Scotland... Crediting him for their try

The Dutch are clearly trying to support their players, though I'd of thought they'd probably be supporting South Africa, as their team is nearly all Dutch!

eirebilly wrote:Excellent officiating there but I did not like the SA 9 calling him a cheat...

Didn't hear that. Very poor form from him.

Shifty wrote:

eirebilly wrote:The Dutch commentary are saying that Tim Visser has been the most important player for Scotland... Crediting him for their try

The Dutch are clearly trying to support their players, though I'd of thought they'd probably be supporting South Africa, as their team is nearly all Dutch!  

Been thoroughly unimpressed with Nigel Owens today, had a shocker not sending pietersen to the sin bin. Clear tip tackle, guys have been sin binned for far less and with even less malice!

Very powerful performance from SA - well worth the game.

Too many mistakes from Scotland and we simply can't allow teams to get so far ahead of us and hope we can claw it back - we need to play from minute 1

Jaysus, did Weir just make a good touch kick

eirebilly wrote:The Dutch commentary are saying that Tim Visser has been the most important player for Scotland... Crediting him for their try

They've been pushing him as a star player for them all tournament. Although as a trade off for the tournament actually being on tv it's not too bad.

Scotland's scrum has gone well in this game and Hogg's acting but very little anything else they must pick their best team for every game.

Majestic83 wrote:Been thoroughly unimpressed with Nigel Owens today, had a shocker not sending pietersen to the sin bin. Clear tip tackle, guys have been sin binned for far less and with even less malice!

Think that he called it right myself, he got into a bad position accidently but JP could have brought him down better. Good call.

Absolutely bullied in the pack and the backs today. So much for cotter's power game tactics.

Don't buy the 2nd XV nonsense, arguably not our strongest available team but very far from being a 2nd XV. South Africa have physically blown us away and I don't believe making a few changes to our starting lineup would've altered that fact.

Ultimately South Africa were just far too physical and we couldn't live with, a deserved victory and well done to them.

eirebilly wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:Been thoroughly unimpressed with Nigel Owens today, had a shocker not sending pietersen to the sin bin. Clear tip tackle, guys have been sin binned for far less and with even less malice!

Think that he called it right myself, he got into a bad position accidently but JP could have brought him down better. Good call.

Doesn't matter if it's accidental. Russell's taking out of the ireland player in the 6 nations was accidental but still got sin binned. Most tip tackles are accidents and not malicious but all can be extremely dangerous. Clear yellow.

Why is it do I always see Scottish players congratulating each other and smiling when they have lost a game and the opposition has more than doubled their points score?

Is it a culture thing or do they simply accept defeat so easily?

Shifty wrote:Why is it do I always see Scottish players congratulating each other and smiling when they have lost a game and the opposition has more than doubled their points score?

Is it a culture thing or do they simply accept defeat so easily?  

I think they call it sportsmanship

Majestic83 wrote:

eirebilly wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:Been thoroughly unimpressed with Nigel Owens today, had a shocker not sending pietersen to the sin bin. Clear tip tackle, guys have been sin binned for far less and with even less malice!

Think that he called it right myself, he got into a bad position accidently but JP could have brought him down better. Good call.

Doesn't matter if it's accidental. Russell's taking out of the ireland player in the 6 nations was accidental but still got sin binned. Most tip tackles are accidents and not malicious but all can be extremely dangerous. Clear yellow.

No the Scottish player put his hand on the floor, and twisted his body so he could make the ball available, look at it again. Nigel got that call right.