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Post by George Carlin Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:26 am

First topic message reminder :

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AUSTRALIA v SCOTLAND

18 October 2015
16:00 BST (UTC+01)
Twickenham, London

Live on telly

Ref: Craig Joubert (South Africa)
ARs: Glen Jackson (New Zealand) and Pascal Gauzere (France)
TMO: Ben Skeen (New Zealand)

A. Head to Head

28 Played 28
19 Won 9
0 Drawn 0
9 Lost 19
671 Points 330

B. Recent Form

23 November 2013
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
15 – 21 to Australia

5 June 2012
Hunter Stadium, Newcastle
6 – 9 to Scotland

21 November 2009
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 8 to Scotland

25 November 2006
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
15 – 44 to Australia

20 November 2004
Hampden Park, Glasgow
17 – 31 to Australia

C. TEAMS:
AUSTRALIA
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15 Kurtley Beale; 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Matt Giteau, 11 Drew Mitchell; 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Will Genia;

1 Scott Sio, 2Stephen Moore, 3 Sekope Kepu, 4 Kane Douglas, 5 Rob Simmons, 6 Scott Fardy, 7 Michael Hooper, 8 Ben McCalman.

Substitutes: 16 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 17 James Slipper, 18 Greg Holmes, 19 Dean Mumm, 20 Sean McMahon, 21 Nick Phipps, 22 Matt Toomua, 23 Quade Cooper.

SCOTLAND
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15 Stuart Hogg; 14 Sean Maitland, 13 Mark Bennett, 12 Peter Horne 11 Tommy Seymour; 10 Finn Russell,  9 Greig Laidlaw;

1 Alasdair Dickinson, 2 Ross Ford, 3 Willem Nel, 4 Jonny Gray, 5 Richie Gray, 6 Blair Cowan, 7 John Hardie, 8 David Denton. 


Substitutes: 
16 Fraser Brown, 17 Gordon Reid, 18 Jon Welsh, 19 Tim Swinson, 20 Josh Strauss, 21 Henry Pyrgos, 22 Richie Vernon, 23 Sean Lamont.


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Post by SimonofSurrey Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:25 pm

nathan, Fanster, good points both and well made but I think these things even themselves out over the game as a whole when the ref 'is actually having a good, two-eyed game': Maitland's 10 mns may have cost Scotland 7 points net, but he may also have stopped a try (moot point, cover looked to be there) and the correct spot of Genia's knock on saved Scotland 7 undeserved points against.

Fanster: note I definitely didn't say Joubert's a good ref! I agree with you that he can be ...erm... inconsistent, at best. Meanwhile, it's now 25-24 - the latter being Scotland's highest ever score v Aus, apparently.

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Post by nathan Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:26 pm

Nematode wrote:Whatever the final result, we're doing the NH proud!

Very much so!

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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:28 pm

Is that not double movement?
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Post by tigertattie Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:29 pm

If that's not a double movement then nothing is!!!!
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Post by nathan Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:30 pm

Just seen how worked up jk Rowling gets over Scottish rugby, great to see

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:30 pm

eirebilly wrote:Is that not double movement?

No, you're allowed to reach out and place the ball after stopping.

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Post by glamorganalun Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:33 pm

Good decision to take point

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Post by SimonofSurrey Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:34 pm

eirebilly wrote:Is that not double movement?

No, I think the decision was that he was prone on the ground, but didn't move his body and stretched his arm out over the line which I believe is legal. If the covering player had not slid beyond him, the Oz player wouldn't have had the space to place it over the line without making a further, ie illegal, double movement (ie of more than just his arm).

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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:34 pm

Griff wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Is that not double movement?

No, you're allowed to reach out and place the ball after stopping.

I thought that you were only allowed to do that with momentum? There was no momentum there.

The Aussies living a very charmed life at the breakdown, how they are not penalised I will never know.

PS, this is not me being bitter and wanting a NH side in the 1/2 finals Wink
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Post by Fanster Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:35 pm

Griff wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Is that not double movement?

No, you're allowed to reach out and place the ball after stopping.

Your allowed to reach out and place the ball, but you must still be in the same motion, once youve stopped you have to present or offload.

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Post by Biltong Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:36 pm

eirebilly wrote:
Griff wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Is that not double movement?

No, you're allowed to reach out and place the ball after stopping.

I thought that you were only allowed to do that with momentum? There was no momentum there.

The Aussies living a very charmed life at the breakdown, how they are not penalised I will never know.

PS, this is not me being bitter and wanting a NH side in the 1/2 finals Wink

When momentum is stopped you may not crawl closer, the "one moevement" available once tackled then is placing the ball. Wink
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Post by ME-109 Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:36 pm

Fanster wrote:
Griff wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Is that not double movement?

No, you're allowed to reach out and place the ball after stopping.

Your allowed to reach out and place the ball, but you must still be in the same motion, once youve stopped you have to present or offload.

Or place the ball...no issues with it

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

Fanster wrote:
Griff wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Is that not double movement?

No, you're allowed to reach out and place the ball after stopping.

Your allowed to reach out and place the ball, but you must still be in the same motion, once youve stopped you have to present or offload.

No. As long as the torso is not moved, e.g. crawling further on knees, then it is not a double movement to reach out and place the ball down. Players do it all of the time.

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Post by Biltong Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

Intercept, wow, this is going down the wire
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Post by Shifty Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

What the hell... Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

CMON SCOTLAND!!!

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Post by RDW Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

Ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!

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Post by glamorganalun Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

Christmas is early this year, what a screw up must kick in the rain

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Post by SimonofSurrey Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

He's not going to throw an interception pass is?... - wtf, he just did!!!!

SCOTLAND!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

(PS: yes, I'm English)

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

COME ON SCOTLAND!!! Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm

Come on Scotland, hold on, 5 big minutes.

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Post by nathan Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:39 pm

This rain will make Scotland feel right at home

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Post by glamorganalun Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:39 pm

Scotland have a great chance with the rain to spoil Aust handling

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:39 pm

I can't handle this!

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:40 pm

I can't believe this is happening! Come on Scotland!
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Post by Shifty Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:40 pm

The next 4 and a half minutes will decide what Scotlands top selling DVD in the next few months.
If they win it will be this game.
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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:41 pm

This is amazing.

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Post by Notch Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:42 pm

Seriously can't remember a better World Cup than this, ever.
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Post by Notch Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:43 pm

Standard heartbreaking last minute penalty time.
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Post by RDW Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:43 pm

It'll be absolutely heart breaking to lose it for that penalty

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Post by nathan Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:43 pm

It came of an Australian?

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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:43 pm

That came off an Aussie?
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Post by Shifty Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:43 pm

please miss <3
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Post by Shifty Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:44 pm

ah shít! Sad
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Post by Fanster Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:44 pm

Joubert makes a bad call for the winning penalty, came off an Australian hand...

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Post by RDW Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:44 pm

Why kick deep???

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Post by HammerofThunor Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:44 pm

Looks like he last touch 'might' have been a Scottish shoulder.

Edit: commiserations Scotland.


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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:44 pm

That is absolute bullschmidt
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Post by RDW Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:45 pm

Absolutely devastating

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Post by Shifty Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:45 pm

Unlucky lads you gave it everything Sad Hug
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Post by Notch Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:45 pm

You've got to feel for Scotland, magnificent performance but... that was the most quintessentially Scottish finish to a game in history.

Who said knockout rugby was boring? 35-34!!
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Post by TJ Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:45 pm

tigertattie wrote:If that's not a double movement then nothing is!!!!

Nope - he is allowed to place it. Its OK

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:45 pm

Full credit to Australia, great game. But we cannot take restarts and it has cost us a trip to the semis.

Proud of the lads though!
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Post by TightHEAD Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:45 pm

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Post by Hood83 Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:46 pm

Gutting, absolutely gutting. Joubert, sprinting off, that is absolutely pathetic.

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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:46 pm

Yellow card that's never a yellow card leading to a try and a shocking decision to give a penalty at the end.

Joubert, hang your head in shame.
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Post by whocares Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:46 pm

Truly horrible way to go out. So close Sad

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Post by RDW Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:46 pm

Messed up restarts and lineouts costing us again.

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Post by nathan Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:46 pm

Feel for Scotland, a lot to be proud of though

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Post by glamorganalun Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:46 pm

The crowd were shocking during that kick.

Well done Scotland determination for 80 mins.

Well done Australia great entertainment

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