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Post by George Carlin Mon 12 Oct 2015, 7:23 am

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IRELAND v ARGENTINA

18 October 2015
KO: 13:00 BST (UTC+01)
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff

Live on [tbc]

Ref: Jerome Garcès (France)
ARs: Romain Poite (France)and Chris Pollock (NZ)
TMO: George Ayoub (Australia)

A. Head to Head

15 Played 15
10 Won 5
0 Drawn 0
5 Lost 15
331 Points 283

B. Recent Form

14 June 2014
Estadio Monumental José Fierro, Tucumán
17 – 23 to Ireland

7 June 2014
Estadio Centenario, Resistencia
17 – 29 to Ireland

24 November 2012
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
46 – 24 to Ireland

28 November 2010
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
29 – 9 to Ireland

22 November 2008
Croke Park, Dublin
17 – 3 to Ireland

30 September 2007
Parc des Princes, Paris, France
30 – 15 to Argentina

2 June 2007
Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires
16 – 0 to Argentina

C. TEAMS:

IRELAND
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15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14. Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
13. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
12. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)
11. Dave Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster)
10. Johnny Sexton (St Mary's College/Leinster)
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)
1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)
3. Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)
4. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster)
5. Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
6. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
7. Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster)
8. Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster) captain

Replacements;
16. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
17. Jack McGrath (St Mary's College/Leinster)
18. Nathan White (Connacht)
19. Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
20. Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster)
21. Eoin Reddan (Old Crescent/Leinster)
22. Ian Madigan (Blackrock/Leinster)
23. Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock/Leinster)

ARGENTINA
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15. Joaquin Tuculet
14. Santiago Cordero
13. Matías Moroni
12. Juan Martín Hernández
11. Juan Imhoff
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Martín Landajo
1. Marcos Ayerza
2. Agustín Creevy (c)
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Guido Petti
5. Tomás Lavanini
6. Pablo Matera
7. Juan Martín Fernández Lobbe
8. Leonardo Senatore

Replacements:
16. Julián Montoya
17. Lucas Noguera
18. Juan Pablo Orlandi
19. Matías Alemanno
20. Facundo Isa
21. Tomás Cubelli
22. Jerónimo De La Fuente
23. Lucas González Amorosino


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Post by BamBam Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:11 pm

Jesus, Argentina are playing out of their skin

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Post by Notch Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:12 pm

I can't believe what I'm seeing. We're giving Argentina the freedom of the wings- exactly where they are most dangerous.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:14 pm

10 mins in and the dream is over. Why cant Ireland beat Argentina in RWC's?
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Post by whocares Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:14 pm

Where is Ireland rush defence?

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:15 pm

This doesn't look too good for Ireland....

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Post by HammerofThunor Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:15 pm

What a start by the Argentinos. Is this difference playing regular games against decent opposition gives you?

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Post by offload Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:15 pm

BamBam wrote:Jesus, Argentina are playing out of their skin

They are just picking up from where they left off in the Rugby Championship.
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Post by JmD Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:15 pm

Two tries, two major defensive errors by Dave Kearney. All while Andy Trimble sits at home wasting away.

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Post by Pete330v2 Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:15 pm

We look uninterested. Bloody hell

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Post by kingraf Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:16 pm

I've said for years in Rugby Championship threads that Argentina have crazy skills. Don't matter where on the park they can hurt you
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Post by glamorganalun Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:17 pm

Ireland look like they could get hammered with Bowe out their cutting edge is gone.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:17 pm

Dave Kearney has picked the worst possible moment to stop his recent excellent form.
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Post by George Carlin Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:18 pm

WTF was Dave Kearney doing for that first score?

Kiss will remove his arm and hit him with it.
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Post by JmD Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:18 pm

Now Ireland are playing in a world cup quarter final with Dave Kearney and Luke Fitzgerald on the wings, despite the fact that there are two genuine international class wingers outside of the matchday squad. Schmidt's selection is all coming apart.

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Post by Notch Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:19 pm

Lot of people criticising Dave Kearney but its the inside defenders not getting across the pitch quickly enough thats leaving him exposed and ensuring our shape is too narrow.
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Post by RDW Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:20 pm

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Post by kingraf Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:20 pm

Has any team ever overcome a 17 point deficit in knockout match?
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Post by glamorganalun Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:20 pm

Pete330v2 wrote:We look uninterested. Bloody hell

As the ABs showed France are poor so Ireland have not faced a decent team and may be under cooked.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:20 pm

Argentina is a total rugby team too. One of the best forward packs running around and lethal backs. They are not short on finishing skills that's for sure.

Still think Ireland can bite back. Just need to get the ball and start to ask questions of the Argie defence.


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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:22 pm

In all honesty, this proves how big a loss that POM is. He is one of the prime defenders in the outer channels, which is why his tackle count is usually lower but he is key to our wider defensive channels. He is also so important at preventing quick ball.

Argentina are being allowed to run riot here.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:23 pm

kingraf wrote:Has any team ever overcome a 17 point deficit in knockout match?


Ireland under Schmidt certainly don't com back from behind.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:24 pm

Argentina have a phenomenal team. They could have a really good team in super rugby!

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Post by RDW Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:24 pm

Really stupid from the prop - comes with the territory I suppose!

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Post by Notch Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:24 pm

We're narrow and we're passive. No line speed, allowing their inside backs to have loads of time to make decisions and pick their passes. No width in defence, leaving Argentina with 2 on 1s when they go wide.

A lethal combination. We need a score here.
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Post by glamorganalun Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:24 pm

Ireland must make the most of the yellow.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:26 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Really stupid from the prop - comes with the territory I suppose!

Well that's this comment getting reported to the mods...


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Post by eirebilly Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:26 pm

What was wrong with that? Garces placed the mark and Madigan went, perfect try.
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Post by JmD Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:28 pm

5 on 2 overlap, Madigan decides to kick it backwards. Truly garbage stuff.

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Post by BamBam Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:29 pm

Agree eirebilly not sure why that was called back

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Post by RDW Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:29 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Really stupid from the prop - comes with the territory I suppose!

Well that's this  comment getting reported to the mods...

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Post by HammerofThunor Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:29 pm

I think the ref said something about talking to the captain.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:31 pm

Distance per carry says it all

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Post by Notch Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:31 pm

You know what? We need to join the Rugby Championship. There's no way playing Six Nations rugby can ever prepare you to face this. Either we find a way to play with the big boys or we will be left in Tier 2 while they motor away in Tier 1.
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Post by RDW Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:31 pm

Why not go for a scrum in front of the posts with them a man down? Strange call

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Post by monty junior Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:33 pm

The Northern Hemisphere team's are absolutely rubbish Shocked

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Post by eirebilly Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:33 pm

Unbelievable, simply cannot believe what I am seeing. Truly poor from Ireland. This is why we miss POC, a true leader on the pitch.
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Post by Pal Joey Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

Fitzy!!

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Post by HammerofThunor Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

good try.


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Post by Pete330v2 Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

Where's our blitz defence, ball chasing, breakdown defence? This is painful to watch and feels like 2007 again.

Hold on.....Fitzy in...yesssssss!!!!!

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Post by BamBam Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

Yes! Come on Ireland

Fantastic pass from Madigan to create the width

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Post by Notch Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

Great finish from Fitzgerald there.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

Get in there Fitz.
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Post by glamorganalun Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

Great score thanks to Murrey commitment

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Post by kingraf Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:35 pm

"What a well deserved try"

Having done what exactly prior to the try?
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Post by JmD Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:35 pm

Thank god for that. Great finish by Fitz.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:37 pm

Notch wrote:You know what? We need to join the Rugby Championship. There's no way playing Six Nations rugby can ever prepare you to face this. Either we find a way to play with the big boys or we will be left in Tier 2 while they motor away in Tier 1.

vomit

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Post by Notch Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:38 pm

Ireland really stupid to keep trying to play through the advantage given our lineout is our best attacking weapon. Take the penalty and the territory!
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Post by RDW Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:39 pm

How was that advantage over from the penalty?

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Post by JmD Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:42 pm

There's space out on that wing for Ireland too, they need to keep going wide left.

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Post by BamBam Sun 18 Oct 2015, 1:43 pm

Agreed, more sides need to perfect the George Gregan fumble

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