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QF3: Ireland v Argentina, 18 October
First topic message reminder :
IRELAND v ARGENTINA
18 October 2015
KO: 13:00 BST (UTC+01)
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Live on [tbc]
Ref: Jerome Garcès (France)
ARs: Romain Poite (France)and Chris Pollock (NZ)
TMO: George Ayoub (Australia)
A. Head to Head
15 Played 15
10 Won 5
0 Drawn 0
5 Lost 15
331 Points 283
B. Recent Form
14 June 2014
Estadio Monumental José Fierro, Tucumán
17 – 23 to Ireland
7 June 2014
Estadio Centenario, Resistencia
17 – 29 to Ireland
24 November 2012
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
46 – 24 to Ireland
28 November 2010
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
29 – 9 to Ireland
22 November 2008
Croke Park, Dublin
17 – 3 to Ireland
30 September 2007
Parc des Princes, Paris, France
30 – 15 to Argentina
2 June 2007
Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires
16 – 0 to Argentina
C. TEAMS:
IRELAND
15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14. Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
13. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
12. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)
11. Dave Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster)
10. Johnny Sexton (St Mary's College/Leinster)
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)
1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)
3. Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)
4. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster)
5. Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
6. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
7. Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster)
8. Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster) captain
Replacements;
16. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
17. Jack McGrath (St Mary's College/Leinster)
18. Nathan White (Connacht)
19. Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
20. Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster)
21. Eoin Reddan (Old Crescent/Leinster)
22. Ian Madigan (Blackrock/Leinster)
23. Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock/Leinster)
ARGENTINA
15. Joaquin Tuculet
14. Santiago Cordero
13. Matías Moroni
12. Juan Martín Hernández
11. Juan Imhoff
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Martín Landajo
1. Marcos Ayerza
2. Agustín Creevy (c)
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Guido Petti
5. Tomás Lavanini
6. Pablo Matera
7. Juan Martín Fernández Lobbe
8. Leonardo Senatore
Replacements:
16. Julián Montoya
17. Lucas Noguera
18. Juan Pablo Orlandi
19. Matías Alemanno
20. Facundo Isa
21. Tomás Cubelli
22. Jerónimo De La Fuente
23. Lucas González Amorosino
IRELAND v ARGENTINA
18 October 2015
KO: 13:00 BST (UTC+01)
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Live on [tbc]
Ref: Jerome Garcès (France)
ARs: Romain Poite (France)and Chris Pollock (NZ)
TMO: George Ayoub (Australia)
A. Head to Head
15 Played 15
10 Won 5
0 Drawn 0
5 Lost 15
331 Points 283
B. Recent Form
14 June 2014
Estadio Monumental José Fierro, Tucumán
17 – 23 to Ireland
7 June 2014
Estadio Centenario, Resistencia
17 – 29 to Ireland
24 November 2012
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
46 – 24 to Ireland
28 November 2010
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
29 – 9 to Ireland
22 November 2008
Croke Park, Dublin
17 – 3 to Ireland
30 September 2007
Parc des Princes, Paris, France
30 – 15 to Argentina
2 June 2007
Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires
16 – 0 to Argentina
C. TEAMS:
IRELAND
15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14. Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
13. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
12. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)
11. Dave Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster)
10. Johnny Sexton (St Mary's College/Leinster)
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)
1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)
3. Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)
4. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster)
5. Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
6. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
7. Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster)
8. Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster) captain
Replacements;
16. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
17. Jack McGrath (St Mary's College/Leinster)
18. Nathan White (Connacht)
19. Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
20. Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster)
21. Eoin Reddan (Old Crescent/Leinster)
22. Ian Madigan (Blackrock/Leinster)
23. Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock/Leinster)
ARGENTINA
15. Joaquin Tuculet
14. Santiago Cordero
13. Matías Moroni
12. Juan Martín Hernández
11. Juan Imhoff
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Martín Landajo
1. Marcos Ayerza
2. Agustín Creevy (c)
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Guido Petti
5. Tomás Lavanini
6. Pablo Matera
7. Juan Martín Fernández Lobbe
8. Leonardo Senatore
Replacements:
16. Julián Montoya
17. Lucas Noguera
18. Juan Pablo Orlandi
19. Matías Alemanno
20. Facundo Isa
21. Tomás Cubelli
22. Jerónimo De La Fuente
23. Lucas González Amorosino
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Re: QF3: Ireland v Argentina, 18 October
Jesus, Argentina are playing out of their skin
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I can't believe what I'm seeing. We're giving Argentina the freedom of the wings- exactly where they are most dangerous.
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10 mins in and the dream is over. Why cant Ireland beat Argentina in RWC's?
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Re: QF3: Ireland v Argentina, 18 October
Where is Ireland rush defence?
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This doesn't look too good for Ireland....
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Re: QF3: Ireland v Argentina, 18 October
What a start by the Argentinos. Is this difference playing regular games against decent opposition gives you?
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BamBam wrote:Jesus, Argentina are playing out of their skin
They are just picking up from where they left off in the Rugby Championship.
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Re: QF3: Ireland v Argentina, 18 October
Two tries, two major defensive errors by Dave Kearney. All while Andy Trimble sits at home wasting away.
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We look uninterested. Bloody hell
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Re: QF3: Ireland v Argentina, 18 October
I've said for years in Rugby Championship threads that Argentina have crazy skills. Don't matter where on the park they can hurt you
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Ireland look like they could get hammered with Bowe out their cutting edge is gone.
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Dave Kearney has picked the worst possible moment to stop his recent excellent form.
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WTF was Dave Kearney doing for that first score?
Kiss will remove his arm and hit him with it.
Kiss will remove his arm and hit him with it.
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Now Ireland are playing in a world cup quarter final with Dave Kearney and Luke Fitzgerald on the wings, despite the fact that there are two genuine international class wingers outside of the matchday squad. Schmidt's selection is all coming apart.
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Re: QF3: Ireland v Argentina, 18 October
Lot of people criticising Dave Kearney but its the inside defenders not getting across the pitch quickly enough thats leaving him exposed and ensuring our shape is too narrow.
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Re: QF3: Ireland v Argentina, 18 October
Has any team ever overcome a 17 point deficit in knockout match?
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Pete330v2 wrote:We look uninterested. Bloody hell
As the ABs showed France are poor so Ireland have not faced a decent team and may be under cooked.
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Argentina is a total rugby team too. One of the best forward packs running around and lethal backs. They are not short on finishing skills that's for sure.
Still think Ireland can bite back. Just need to get the ball and start to ask questions of the Argie defence.
Still think Ireland can bite back. Just need to get the ball and start to ask questions of the Argie defence.
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In all honesty, this proves how big a loss that POM is. He is one of the prime defenders in the outer channels, which is why his tackle count is usually lower but he is key to our wider defensive channels. He is also so important at preventing quick ball.
Argentina are being allowed to run riot here.
Argentina are being allowed to run riot here.
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kingraf wrote:Has any team ever overcome a 17 point deficit in knockout match?
Ireland under Schmidt certainly don't com back from behind.
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Argentina have a phenomenal team. They could have a really good team in super rugby!
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Really stupid from the prop - comes with the territory I suppose!
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We're narrow and we're passive. No line speed, allowing their inside backs to have loads of time to make decisions and pick their passes. No width in defence, leaving Argentina with 2 on 1s when they go wide.
A lethal combination. We need a score here.
A lethal combination. We need a score here.
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Ireland must make the most of the yellow.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Really stupid from the prop - comes with the territory I suppose!
Well that's this comment getting reported to the mods...
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What was wrong with that? Garces placed the mark and Madigan went, perfect try.
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5 on 2 overlap, Madigan decides to kick it backwards. Truly garbage stuff.
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Agree eirebilly not sure why that was called back
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RuggerRadge2611 wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:Really stupid from the prop - comes with the territory I suppose!
Well that's this comment getting reported to the mods...
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I think the ref said something about talking to the captain.
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Distance per carry says it all
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You know what? We need to join the Rugby Championship. There's no way playing Six Nations rugby can ever prepare you to face this. Either we find a way to play with the big boys or we will be left in Tier 2 while they motor away in Tier 1.
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Why not go for a scrum in front of the posts with them a man down? Strange call
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The Northern Hemisphere team's are absolutely rubbish
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Unbelievable, simply cannot believe what I am seeing. Truly poor from Ireland. This is why we miss POC, a true leader on the pitch.
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good try.
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Where's our blitz defence, ball chasing, breakdown defence? This is painful to watch and feels like 2007 again.
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Hold on.....Fitzy in...yesssssss!!!!!
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Yes! Come on Ireland
Fantastic pass from Madigan to create the width
Fantastic pass from Madigan to create the width
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Great finish from Fitzgerald there.
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Get in there Fitz.
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Great score thanks to Murrey commitment
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"What a well deserved try"
Having done what exactly prior to the try?
Having done what exactly prior to the try?
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Thank god for that. Great finish by Fitz.
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Notch wrote:You know what? We need to join the Rugby Championship. There's no way playing Six Nations rugby can ever prepare you to face this. Either we find a way to play with the big boys or we will be left in Tier 2 while they motor away in Tier 1.
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Ireland really stupid to keep trying to play through the advantage given our lineout is our best attacking weapon. Take the penalty and the territory!
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How was that advantage over from the penalty?
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There's space out on that wing for Ireland too, they need to keep going wide left.
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Agreed, more sides need to perfect the George Gregan fumble
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