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Canelo Vacates
First topic message reminder :
Surprise surprise. Clear and utter sick of a supposed Hype Train in GGG.
Some Mexican.
Disappointed but not surprised.
I may quit boxing. It's a Frak state. Drugs, mismatches, ducking, corrupt judges. Frak joke.
Surprise surprise. Clear and utter sick of a supposed Hype Train in GGG.
Some Mexican.
Disappointed but not surprised.
I may quit boxing. It's a Frak state. Drugs, mismatches, ducking, corrupt judges. Frak joke.
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Re: Canelo Vacates
BoxingFan88 wrote:Haz that post was outstanding
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Re: Canelo Vacates
Just reading Macklin's retirement bit in BN. Golden Boy contacted him about a Canelo fight after he'd looked shot to bits against Brian Rose? That can't be right can it?
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Of course it can
They need opponents to test canelo at middleweight without a huge risk
They need opponents to test canelo at middleweight without a huge risk
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Read an interesting snippet today from Wally Mathews:
"Last week, Alvarez, fresh off an impressive KO of Amir Khan, vacated his WBC middleweight title, for which Golovkin is the mandatory challenger.
Considering that twice previously, Alvarez had asked for, and received, dispensation from WBC boss Mauricio Sulaiman to take a voluntary defense instead, paying Golovkin step-aside money both times, it was easy to surmise that this was another ruse in which to avoid facing a fighter who in his 35-0, 32-KO career has looked more like monster than man.
But there is another possibility at work here, that Alvarez's promoter, Golden Boy (Oscar De La Hoya, prop.) was simply looking to escape the constraints of going to a purse bid, which was mandated by Sulaiman if the two sides could not reach agreement within 15 days of the Khan fight.
The risk of going to a purse bid, of course, is that somebody with deep pockets (Al Haymon, anyone?) could swoop in and steal the rights with an outrageously high offer. De La Hoya is too smart to allow that to happen. Plus, there is the slight matter of the lawsuit by Felix "Tuto" Zabala, Alvarez's former manager, who claims Golden Boy Promotions stole Canelo out from under him.
According to people I have spoken to, any negotiations for a Canelo-GGG fight are on hold until after the case is completed, which could take anywhere from two weeks to a month.
One line of reasoning is that if Zabala wins a large financial judgment, which might even include a percentage of Alvarez's future earnings, it might force Golden Boy to make the GGG fight if only to recoup its losses.
In that case, it might serve boxing fans well to root hard for Zabala in this lawsuit.
But what fight fans are really rooting for is a resolution to this matter that ends with Alvarez and Golovkin meeting in a ring, and soon, without long delays and interim fights that could result in an act of fate like those listed above.
Tom Loeffler, Golovkin's manager, told me Wednesday that he has had no indication from Golden Boy of whether the fight will happen, or whether it won't.
Either way, he says, his man will fight in September, and if it is not Alvarez, it could be one of the following: Billy Joe Saunders, an Englishman who holds the WBO title; Brooklyn's Danny Jacobs, who has the WBA "regular" title and could easily sell out Barclays Center fighting GGG; Chris Eubank Jr., who like Saunders, could be a big draw in the UK; or Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., in the midst of yet another career rehabilitation following his loss to Andrzej Fonfara.
"I can't put Gennady's career on hold waiting for an answer," Loeffler said, understandably. But boxing history tells us he might be putting it in jeopardy."
"Last week, Alvarez, fresh off an impressive KO of Amir Khan, vacated his WBC middleweight title, for which Golovkin is the mandatory challenger.
Considering that twice previously, Alvarez had asked for, and received, dispensation from WBC boss Mauricio Sulaiman to take a voluntary defense instead, paying Golovkin step-aside money both times, it was easy to surmise that this was another ruse in which to avoid facing a fighter who in his 35-0, 32-KO career has looked more like monster than man.
But there is another possibility at work here, that Alvarez's promoter, Golden Boy (Oscar De La Hoya, prop.) was simply looking to escape the constraints of going to a purse bid, which was mandated by Sulaiman if the two sides could not reach agreement within 15 days of the Khan fight.
The risk of going to a purse bid, of course, is that somebody with deep pockets (Al Haymon, anyone?) could swoop in and steal the rights with an outrageously high offer. De La Hoya is too smart to allow that to happen. Plus, there is the slight matter of the lawsuit by Felix "Tuto" Zabala, Alvarez's former manager, who claims Golden Boy Promotions stole Canelo out from under him.
According to people I have spoken to, any negotiations for a Canelo-GGG fight are on hold until after the case is completed, which could take anywhere from two weeks to a month.
One line of reasoning is that if Zabala wins a large financial judgment, which might even include a percentage of Alvarez's future earnings, it might force Golden Boy to make the GGG fight if only to recoup its losses.
In that case, it might serve boxing fans well to root hard for Zabala in this lawsuit.
But what fight fans are really rooting for is a resolution to this matter that ends with Alvarez and Golovkin meeting in a ring, and soon, without long delays and interim fights that could result in an act of fate like those listed above.
Tom Loeffler, Golovkin's manager, told me Wednesday that he has had no indication from Golden Boy of whether the fight will happen, or whether it won't.
Either way, he says, his man will fight in September, and if it is not Alvarez, it could be one of the following: Billy Joe Saunders, an Englishman who holds the WBO title; Brooklyn's Danny Jacobs, who has the WBA "regular" title and could easily sell out Barclays Center fighting GGG; Chris Eubank Jr., who like Saunders, could be a big draw in the UK; or Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., in the midst of yet another career rehabilitation following his loss to Andrzej Fonfara.
"I can't put Gennady's career on hold waiting for an answer," Loeffler said, understandably. But boxing history tells us he might be putting it in jeopardy."
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