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Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby
Bordeaux Begles v Ulster
Champions Cup Pool 5
Stade Chaban-Delmas
16th October 2016, 13:00 Kick off GMT
Live on Sky Sports
Referee JP Doyle (England)
Touch Judge 1 John Meredith (England)
Touch Judge 2 Peter Allan (England)
TMO Graham Hughes (England)
Citing Commissioner John Montgomery (Scotland)
Teams
Bordeaux
15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula
Ulster
(15-9): Jared Payne, Andrew Trimble (captain), Luke Marshall, Stuart Olding, Craig Gilroy, Paddy Jackson, Ruan Pienaar;
(1-8): Andy Warwick, Rory Best, Rodney Ah You, Alan O'Connor, Franco van der Merwe, Iain Henderson, Clive Ross, Sean Reidy;
Replacements (16-23): Rob Herring, Kyle McCall, Ross Kane, Pete Browne, Roger Wilson, Paul Marshall, Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle
First round of pool games in Pool 5 and both will want to get off to the perfect start. One of the most fascinating battles in this will be the battle of the outhalves as Irish 10's Madigan and Jackson go head to head.
Champions Cup Pool 5
Stade Chaban-Delmas
16th October 2016, 13:00 Kick off GMT
Live on Sky Sports
Referee JP Doyle (England)
Touch Judge 1 John Meredith (England)
Touch Judge 2 Peter Allan (England)
TMO Graham Hughes (England)
Citing Commissioner John Montgomery (Scotland)
Teams
Bordeaux
15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula
Ulster
(15-9): Jared Payne, Andrew Trimble (captain), Luke Marshall, Stuart Olding, Craig Gilroy, Paddy Jackson, Ruan Pienaar;
(1-8): Andy Warwick, Rory Best, Rodney Ah You, Alan O'Connor, Franco van der Merwe, Iain Henderson, Clive Ross, Sean Reidy;
Replacements (16-23): Rob Herring, Kyle McCall, Ross Kane, Pete Browne, Roger Wilson, Paul Marshall, Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle
First round of pool games in Pool 5 and both will want to get off to the perfect start. One of the most fascinating battles in this will be the battle of the outhalves as Irish 10's Madigan and Jackson go head to head.
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Given the brand of rugby Bordeaux like to play, their great home crowd, and Ulsters recent record on the road in France this could be one of the best games of the weekend.
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It really could, Ulster have a lot of injuries in that back line though. One thing's for sure and that is that Ulster will have to front up at the breakdown much better than v Connacht
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UBB also has a few injuries. Might start a lock in the back row this weekend. Other than that the way the team has been playing so far doesn't give much confindence. The work rate and commitment isn't really there and they have been a bit laidback but hope this first European game give them wings. Good news is that Madigan has fit quite well so far.
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whocares wrote:UBB also has a few injuries. Might start a lock in the back row this weekend. Other than that the way the team has been playing so far doesn't give much confindence. The work rate and commitment isn't really there and they have been a bit laidback but hope this first European game give them wings. Good news is that Madigan has fit quite well so far.
The same can be said of Ulsters last game.
Jackson will drive Madigan into the dirt again
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who? Paddy Jackson? Madigan will show him how it's done
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Paddy says "Bring it"
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whocares wrote:who? Paddy Jackson? Madigan will show him how it's done
Madigan on hearing he will have to play against Jackson again:
...and he thought he was safe in France
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Ulster team and replacements to play Bordeaux-Bègles, Sunday 16th October, Stade Chaban-Delmas (kick-off 2.00pm local time, 1.00pm BST):
(15-9): Jared Payne, Andrew Trimble (captain), Luke Marshall, Stuart Olding, Craig Gilroy, Paddy Jackson, Ruan Pienaar;
(1-8): Andy Warwick, Rory Best, Rodney Ah You, Alan O'Connor, Franco van der Merwe, Iain Henderson, Clive Ross, Sean Reidy;
Replacements (16-23): Rob Herring, Kyle McCall, Ross Kane, Pete Browne, Roger Wilson, Paul Marshall, Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle.
(15-9): Jared Payne, Andrew Trimble (captain), Luke Marshall, Stuart Olding, Craig Gilroy, Paddy Jackson, Ruan Pienaar;
(1-8): Andy Warwick, Rory Best, Rodney Ah You, Alan O'Connor, Franco van der Merwe, Iain Henderson, Clive Ross, Sean Reidy;
Replacements (16-23): Rob Herring, Kyle McCall, Ross Kane, Pete Browne, Roger Wilson, Paul Marshall, Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle.
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Think that's the strongest side we can field. Happy with the bench. Fairly confident of a win.
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And this is the Ulster side a Fench paper thinks we're putting out:
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Munchkin wrote:And this is the Ulster side a Fench paper thinks we're putting out:
Someone obviously hasn't watched much of Ulster recently going by that predicted team
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Shoddy journalism. At the very least they should have known Cave is injured. Think they picked the names out of a hat.
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Yeah they left Herring out completely along with Browne and Ross with McCall starting
Surprised no ones noticed we've got an Irish ref, just hope some of our Welsh brethren don't anyway
Surprised no ones noticed we've got an Irish ref, just hope some of our Welsh brethren don't anyway
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I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.
from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/
UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula
Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).
from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/
UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula
Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).
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What do you think of the Begles team, whocares? Scratch that. You have already told us
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whocares wrote:I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.
I knew it was a prediction, just a really bad one
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[quote=marty2086]Yeah they left Herring out completely along with Browne and Ross with McCall starting
Surprised no ones noticed we've got an Irish ref, just hope some of our Welsh brethren don't anyway [/quote]
It's all about who employs them these days. Keep up.
Surprised no ones noticed we've got an Irish ref, just hope some of our Welsh brethren don't anyway [/quote]
It's all about who employs them these days. Keep up.
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I quite like JP Doyle as a referee
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If Ulster do not get a TBP win I will be extremely surprised. Think it is a very strong team and with Payne leading the line at 15 bringing Marshall and Olding into attacking lines.
Should be a high scoring and entertaining game to watch
Should be a high scoring and entertaining game to watch
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I sincerely hope you're right, Billy!
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The thing is billy, this back line is mouthwatering on paper but there has been so much rotation and so many injuries that we basically haven't seen the same back line twice in a game this season yet.
Even without Piutau that back line could be the best in Europe, but its going to take a while to click if we keep chopping and changing. I mean, its Trimbles first game of the season and the first time we've seen this back three together this season. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a bit of rustiness. I hope you're right though because there have been some real flashes of excellence from the backs so far. Sure even against Connacht we scored a fine try under the posts off a beautiful set move.
Even without Piutau that back line could be the best in Europe, but its going to take a while to click if we keep chopping and changing. I mean, its Trimbles first game of the season and the first time we've seen this back three together this season. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a bit of rustiness. I hope you're right though because there have been some real flashes of excellence from the backs so far. Sure even against Connacht we scored a fine try under the posts off a beautiful set move.
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May not have played regularly together this season but this Ulster backline is not unfamiliar with each other. Possibly the best backline in the Pro-12 and maybe even Europe.
Paddy to teach Madigan a lesson again and prove why he should be the full time back up to Sexton ... actually, why Sexton should almost be considering a future as back up 10 to Paddy for Ireland.
Ulster by 15 in a high scoring match
Paddy to teach Madigan a lesson again and prove why he should be the full time back up to Sexton ... actually, why Sexton should almost be considering a future as back up 10 to Paddy for Ireland.
Ulster by 15 in a high scoring match
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Think you may be underestimating Bordeaux, not to mention the pitch isn't great in Bordeaux so Ulsters backline may fight the going tough
May also be why Bowe isn't in this weekend to protect him from injury
May also be why Bowe isn't in this weekend to protect him from injury
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Aahh marty, positive thinking brother
Bordeaux are really not that good and their only chance in this match is to win the forwards battle. Their backline will be totally outclassed by Ulster's. Its why I suspect a high scoring and entertaining match with Ulster getting the TBP.
Bordeaux are really not that good and their only chance in this match is to win the forwards battle. Their backline will be totally outclassed by Ulster's. Its why I suspect a high scoring and entertaining match with Ulster getting the TBP.
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I am thinking positive but Bordeaux are 5th in the Top 14 and above Toulouse and Racing and usually pretty good at home, just think it'll be tougher than most seem to be thinking
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Not saying it will be easy, no game against French teams are. I just do not think that Bordeaux are as good as their position in the Top-14. For me, Ulster are simply a better team and will be a case of who scores more, not who defends better which is why I feel Ulster will win with their dominant backline.
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whocares wrote:I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.
from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/
UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula
Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).
Our players will have Goujon for breakfast
Taxi!
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Munchkin wrote:whocares wrote:I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.
from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/
UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula
Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).
Our players will have Goujon for breakfast
Taxi!
Ban him.
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Don Alfonso wrote:Munchkin wrote:whocares wrote:I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.
from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/
UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula
Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).
Our players will have Goujon for breakfast
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Ban him.
Hahaha.
In all seriousness though, Munchkin, watch out.
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For the joke sailing over your head
For what its worth, I thought it was very funny
For what its worth, I thought it was very funny
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Notch wrote:For the joke sailing over your head
For what its worth, I thought it was very funny
It didn't really sail over my head. I thought my "o0" response was funny
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It's the internet. No-one is funny on the internet.
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Well, the best of luck (and play) tomorrow guys. Let's keep this Pro12/Provincial Euro show rolling
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Yep, four wins in the CC and four wins in the other one. The Regions have won all their opening games, as have the Scots. It would be fantastic if ourselves and Munster keep the winning going. It's a challenge for both, but Munster face a really tough one.
Whatever happens, it's been a very good first weekend for the PRO12
Whatever happens, it's been a very good first weekend for the PRO12
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Notch wrote:It's the internet. No-one is funny on the internet.
Depends which screen you've been watching
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Munchkin wrote:Yep, four wins in the CC and four wins in the other one. The Regions have won all their opening games, as have the Scots. It would be fantastic if ourselves and Munster keep the winning going. It's a challenge for both, but Munster face a really tough one.
Whatever happens, it's been a very good first weekend for the PRO12
I won't be surprised if all French teams end up losing. Even Racing whose form has been erratic so far.
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Yeah and I remember back this time last year when the franglo's piped up about doing well. Looks like the purple patch is well and truly over . #SUFTMOG #SUFTUM
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Reminds me of me without my glasses
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I'm writing a letter of complaint to the ERCC organizers. This game kicks off at 13:00 on a Sunday, what time do the off licenses in Ulster open on a Sunday?? Thats right, 13:00. Outrageous.
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Also, I really hope the ref closely inspects the work of the Begles loosehead at the scrum.
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whocares wrote:Munchkin wrote:Yep, four wins in the CC and four wins in the other one. The Regions have won all their opening games, as have the Scots. It would be fantastic if ourselves and Munster keep the winning going. It's a challenge for both, but Munster face a really tough one.
Whatever happens, it's been a very good first weekend for the PRO12
I won't be surprised if all French teams end up losing. Even Racing whose form has been erratic so far.
If they all lose they'll starting talking about quitting the competition and starting a another one again
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Am I the only one seeing these team sheets on Sky!?
They have Sam Arnold listed on the wing for Ulster and a rake of Bordeaux players are just missing
They have Sam Arnold listed on the wing for Ulster and a rake of Bordeaux players are just missing
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That was a handy kick from Rory too!
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Notch wrote:Am I the only one seeing these team sheets on Sky!?
They have Sam Arnold listed on the wing for Ulster and a rake of Bordeaux players are just missing
They seemed to have Neil Doak down as Head Coach as well :/
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The pitch is a disgrace. Literally coming up in patches at scrum time.
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Artful_Dodger wrote:I'm writing a letter of complaint to the ERCC organizers. This game kicks off at 13:00 on a Sunday, what time do the off licenses in Ulster open on a Sunday?? Thats right, 13:00. Outrageous.
Hmm - they're open at 12.30 in Donegal....
Just sayin like.
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What a try. Bowesque angle from Trimble.
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