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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 06 Feb 2017, 3:57 pm

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WALES 
ENGLAND 
11 February 2017
KO:16:50 GMT
Principality Stadium, Cardiff

Live on [ITV, RTE, SC4, FR2, DMAX / BBC (H)]

Referee: Jerome Garces (France)
Touch judges: Pascal Gauzere (France) & Nick Briant (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)

A. Head to Head

129 Played 129
57 Won 60
12 Drawn 12
60 Lost 57
1,673 Points 1,518

B. Recent Form 

29 May 2016: Twickenham, London
27 – 13 to England
2016 mid-year rugby union internationals

12 March 2016: Twickenham, London
25 – 21 to England
2016 Six Nations Championship

26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A

26 September 2015: Twickenham, London 
25 – 28 to Wales 
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A 

6 February 2015: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 
16 – 21 to England 
2015 Six Nations 

9 March 2014: Twickenham Stadium, London 
29 – 18 to England 
2014 Six Nations 

16 March 2013: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 
30 – 3 to Wales 
2013 Six Nations 

25 February 2012: Twickenham Stadium, London 
12 – 19 to Wales 
2012 Six Nations

13 August 2011: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 
19 – 9 to Wales 
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test 

6 August 2011: Twickenham, London 
23 – 19 to England 
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test 

C. Teams


WALES
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15-Leigh Halfpenny, 14-George North, 13-Jonathan Davies, 12-Scott Williams, 11-Liam Williams, 10-Dan Biggar, 9-Rhys Webb; 1-Rob Evans, 2-Ken Owens, 3-Tomas Francis, 4-Jake Ball, 5-Alun Wyn Jones, 6-Sam Warburton, 7-Justin Tipuric; 8-Ross Moriarty.

Replacements: 16-Scott Baldwin, 17-Nicky Smith, 18-Samson Lee, 19-Cory Hill, 20-Taulupe Faletau, 21-Gareth Davies, 22-Sam Davies, 23-Jamie Roberts.

ENGLAND
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15-Mike Brown, 14-Jack Nowell, 13-Jonathan Joseph, 12-Owen Farrell, 11-Elliot Daly, 10-George Ford, 9-Ben Youngs; 1-Joe Marler, 2-Dylan Hartley (captain), 3-Dan Cole, 4-Joe Launchbury, 5-Courtney Lawes, 6-Maro Itoje, 7-Jack Clifford, 8-Nathan Hughes.

Replacements: 16-Jamie George, 17-Matt Mullan, 18-Kyle Sinckler, 19-Tom Wood, 20-James Haskell, 21-Danny Care, 22-Ben Te'o, 23-Jonny May.


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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:05 pm

Ah dear lord....Joseph.

Sums England up.. so disjointed this 6n...

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Post by beshocked Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:05 pm

Big call to take off Moriarty.

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Post by Heaf Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:06 pm

True Raven wrote:Moriarty and AWJ are putting huge hits on everyone out there legal or not!

Taking a leaf out of the NZ playbook ...

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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:07 pm

We;re taking the ball standing still...or taking whilst running in to two or three defenders....

We are passing the ball through the hands like robots in the backs...no incisiveness etc.

So predictable.

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Post by Heaf Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:07 pm

Hood83 wrote:Did we not have an advantage there that ended when we lost the ball?!

Yep and should have been a pen as it was clearly a deliberate KO ...

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Post by Gwlad Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:07 pm

wtf

Moriarty the top forward. Warbs has been quiet get him off and Moriarty to 6 for Faletau

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:08 pm

yup Falcon. lots of players but a definite first team has formed and this is not it.

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Post by Hood83 Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:08 pm

A bit worrying as it seems we've gone backwards since last 6Ns on the evidence so far.

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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:09 pm

We're being taught a lesson at the breakdown.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:11 pm

well.. that's what a poor backrow does.

big wales win.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:12 pm

Hood83 wrote:A bit worrying as it seems we've gone backwards since last 6Ns on the evidence so far.

injuries will do that.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:12 pm

Wales have been superb, really impressed.

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Post by Hood83 Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:12 pm

Yeah we're nowhere in this game.

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Post by beshocked Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:12 pm

I know I am bias but George's work rate imo has been much higher than Hartley. Made quite a few tackles in that period.

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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:12 pm

Regardless of the result I'm afraid this should put to bed the idea of Itoje at 6! And I think Clifford needs to toughen up aswell...


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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:13 pm

And Itoje is missing his pal Kruis aswell

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Post by Gwlad Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:13 pm

Haskellhoff is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy

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Post by wisden Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:14 pm

so close to the line!!!

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Post by Gwlad Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:14 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Wales have been superb, really impressed.
thanks Pooly. England backs let down a bit i think

game not over yet

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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:16 pm

Oh dear lord!!!!
That just sums it up

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:16 pm

oh ffs 2013 all over again.

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Post by rumpelstiltskindoh Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:17 pm

sheesh. where are my heart tablets?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:17 pm

Youngs and Brown are doing my head in.

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Post by Hood83 Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:17 pm

Oh you f-ing jammy f-ers!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:17 pm

Gwlad wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Wales have been superb, really impressed.
thanks Pooly. England backs let down a bit i think

game not over yet

We don't deserve to be in this. What a game though, fantastic to watch.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:17 pm

jd has reached the point his voice is now a soprano.. that's when you know wales have won easily.

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Post by wisden Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:18 pm

crucial from Daly!!!!! we are a mess at the moment!

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Post by Hood83 Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Gwlad wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Wales have been superb, really impressed.
thanks Pooly. England backs let down a bit i think

game not over yet

We don't deserve to be in this. What a game though, fantastic to watch.

Too true, but we don't deserve to lose by a margin either.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm

What a different game this would be if we didn't have these 8 man benches?

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Post by Gwlad Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm

Daly is England's best back.

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Post by Gwlad Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:20 pm

I fancy a rack of ribs for dinner Very Happy

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Post by Hood83 Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:22 pm

Have to say we are sealing the ball off almost every ruck.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:22 pm

Take the points!

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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:22 pm

Gwlad wrote:Daly is England's best back.

Not much competiton! Him or Nowell!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:23 pm

surely a huge mistake when you have little chance of getting back down here?

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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:23 pm

How on earth are we only 2 points behind.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:23 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Gwlad wrote:Daly is England's best back.

Not much competiton! Him or Nowell!

no Cornish bias. but Nowell for sure!

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Post by Hood83 Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:24 pm

I know it's a gamble but i'd have been tempted to go for the corner, our maul is about the only get forward we seem to be able to get.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:24 pm

Daly is good but he's just not a wing for me. We lack killer instinct on the wing which May would give.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:24 pm

Poopie May is on for Nowell!!!

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Post by beshocked Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:24 pm

Don't know why England are taking off Nowell.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:25 pm

Daly is only staying on for his boot.

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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:26 pm

Have we actually driven a welsh player BACK in the tackle when they have had the ball?

Wales are doing it for fun to us!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:26 pm

Hood83 wrote:I know it's a gamble but i'd have been tempted to go for the corner, our maul is about the only get forward we seem to be able to get.

me too. this is a wales win.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:27 pm

Bigger has been immense, the calls for Davies look a bit silly now.

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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:27 pm

I cant believe they took Nowell off!

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Post by Heaf Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:27 pm

I notice Wales are also adopting the NZ tactic of taking out players way beyond the ruck - wish refs would sort this out as it's plain obstruction ...

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Post by Hood83 Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:27 pm

Wales' retention has been brilliant.

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Post by Shifty Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:27 pm

Cuthbert steam
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Post by Geordie Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:28 pm

Unless they are keeping Daly on in the case of a huge kick in the last minute

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