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6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
First topic message reminder :
WALES v ENGLAND
11 February 2017
KO:16:50 GMT
Principality Stadium, Cardiff
Live on [ITV, RTE, SC4, FR2, DMAX / BBC (H)]
Referee: Jerome Garces (France)
Touch judges: Pascal Gauzere (France) & Nick Briant (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)
A. Head to Head
129 Played 129
57 Won 60
12 Drawn 12
60 Lost 57
1,673 Points 1,518
B. Recent Form
29 May 2016: Twickenham, London
27 – 13 to England
2016 mid-year rugby union internationals
12 March 2016: Twickenham, London
25 – 21 to England
2016 Six Nations Championship
26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
6 February 2015: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
16 – 21 to England
2015 Six Nations
9 March 2014: Twickenham Stadium, London
29 – 18 to England
2014 Six Nations
16 March 2013: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
30 – 3 to Wales
2013 Six Nations
25 February 2012: Twickenham Stadium, London
12 – 19 to Wales
2012 Six Nations
13 August 2011: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 9 to Wales
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test
6 August 2011: Twickenham, London
23 – 19 to England
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test
C. Teams
WALES
15-Leigh Halfpenny, 14-George North, 13-Jonathan Davies, 12-Scott Williams, 11-Liam Williams, 10-Dan Biggar, 9-Rhys Webb; 1-Rob Evans, 2-Ken Owens, 3-Tomas Francis, 4-Jake Ball, 5-Alun Wyn Jones, 6-Sam Warburton, 7-Justin Tipuric; 8-Ross Moriarty.
Replacements: 16-Scott Baldwin, 17-Nicky Smith, 18-Samson Lee, 19-Cory Hill, 20-Taulupe Faletau, 21-Gareth Davies, 22-Sam Davies, 23-Jamie Roberts.
ENGLAND
15-Mike Brown, 14-Jack Nowell, 13-Jonathan Joseph, 12-Owen Farrell, 11-Elliot Daly, 10-George Ford, 9-Ben Youngs; 1-Joe Marler, 2-Dylan Hartley (captain), 3-Dan Cole, 4-Joe Launchbury, 5-Courtney Lawes, 6-Maro Itoje, 7-Jack Clifford, 8-Nathan Hughes.
Replacements: 16-Jamie George, 17-Matt Mullan, 18-Kyle Sinckler, 19-Tom Wood, 20-James Haskell, 21-Danny Care, 22-Ben Te'o, 23-Jonny May.
WALES v ENGLAND
11 February 2017
KO:16:50 GMT
Principality Stadium, Cardiff
Live on [ITV, RTE, SC4, FR2, DMAX / BBC (H)]
Referee: Jerome Garces (France)
Touch judges: Pascal Gauzere (France) & Nick Briant (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)
A. Head to Head
129 Played 129
57 Won 60
12 Drawn 12
60 Lost 57
1,673 Points 1,518
B. Recent Form
29 May 2016: Twickenham, London
27 – 13 to England
2016 mid-year rugby union internationals
12 March 2016: Twickenham, London
25 – 21 to England
2016 Six Nations Championship
26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
6 February 2015: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
16 – 21 to England
2015 Six Nations
9 March 2014: Twickenham Stadium, London
29 – 18 to England
2014 Six Nations
16 March 2013: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
30 – 3 to Wales
2013 Six Nations
25 February 2012: Twickenham Stadium, London
12 – 19 to Wales
2012 Six Nations
13 August 2011: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 9 to Wales
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test
6 August 2011: Twickenham, London
23 – 19 to England
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test
C. Teams
WALES
15-Leigh Halfpenny, 14-George North, 13-Jonathan Davies, 12-Scott Williams, 11-Liam Williams, 10-Dan Biggar, 9-Rhys Webb; 1-Rob Evans, 2-Ken Owens, 3-Tomas Francis, 4-Jake Ball, 5-Alun Wyn Jones, 6-Sam Warburton, 7-Justin Tipuric; 8-Ross Moriarty.
Replacements: 16-Scott Baldwin, 17-Nicky Smith, 18-Samson Lee, 19-Cory Hill, 20-Taulupe Faletau, 21-Gareth Davies, 22-Sam Davies, 23-Jamie Roberts.
ENGLAND
15-Mike Brown, 14-Jack Nowell, 13-Jonathan Joseph, 12-Owen Farrell, 11-Elliot Daly, 10-George Ford, 9-Ben Youngs; 1-Joe Marler, 2-Dylan Hartley (captain), 3-Dan Cole, 4-Joe Launchbury, 5-Courtney Lawes, 6-Maro Itoje, 7-Jack Clifford, 8-Nathan Hughes.
Replacements: 16-Jamie George, 17-Matt Mullan, 18-Kyle Sinckler, 19-Tom Wood, 20-James Haskell, 21-Danny Care, 22-Ben Te'o, 23-Jonny May.
Last edited by Luckless Pedestrian on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 4:02 pm; edited 1 time in total
Luckless Pedestrian- Posts : 24898
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Ah dear lord....Joseph.
Sums England up.. so disjointed this 6n...
Sums England up.. so disjointed this 6n...
Geordie- Posts : 28849
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Big call to take off Moriarty.
beshocked- Posts : 14849
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
True Raven wrote:Moriarty and AWJ are putting huge hits on everyone out there legal or not!
Taking a leaf out of the NZ playbook ...
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
We;re taking the ball standing still...or taking whilst running in to two or three defenders....
We are passing the ball through the hands like robots in the backs...no incisiveness etc.
So predictable.
We are passing the ball through the hands like robots in the backs...no incisiveness etc.
So predictable.
Geordie- Posts : 28849
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Hood83 wrote:Did we not have an advantage there that ended when we lost the ball?!
Yep and should have been a pen as it was clearly a deliberate KO ...
Heaf- Posts : 7028
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
wtf
Moriarty the top forward. Warbs has been quiet get him off and Moriarty to 6 for Faletau
Moriarty the top forward. Warbs has been quiet get him off and Moriarty to 6 for Faletau
Gwlad- Posts : 4224
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
yup Falcon. lots of players but a definite first team has formed and this is not it.
trebellbobaggins- Posts : 4943
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
A bit worrying as it seems we've gone backwards since last 6Ns on the evidence so far.
Hood83- Posts : 2751
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We're being taught a lesson at the breakdown.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
well.. that's what a poor backrow does.
big wales win.
big wales win.
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Hood83 wrote:A bit worrying as it seems we've gone backwards since last 6Ns on the evidence so far.
injuries will do that.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Wales have been superb, really impressed.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Yeah we're nowhere in this game.
Hood83- Posts : 2751
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
I know I am bias but George's work rate imo has been much higher than Hartley. Made quite a few tackles in that period.
beshocked- Posts : 14849
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Regardless of the result I'm afraid this should put to bed the idea of Itoje at 6! And I think Clifford needs to toughen up aswell...
Geordie- Posts : 28849
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And Itoje is missing his pal Kruis aswell
Geordie- Posts : 28849
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Haskellhoff is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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so close to the line!!!
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
thanks Pooly. England backs let down a bit i thinkSgt_Pooly wrote:Wales have been superb, really impressed.
game not over yet
Gwlad- Posts : 4224
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Oh dear lord!!!!
That just sums it up
That just sums it up
Geordie- Posts : 28849
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oh ffs 2013 all over again.
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sheesh. where are my heart tablets?
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Youngs and Brown are doing my head in.
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Oh you f-ing jammy f-ers!
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Gwlad wrote:thanks Pooly. England backs let down a bit i thinkSgt_Pooly wrote:Wales have been superb, really impressed.
game not over yet
We don't deserve to be in this. What a game though, fantastic to watch.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
jd has reached the point his voice is now a soprano.. that's when you know wales have won easily.
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crucial from Daly!!!!! we are a mess at the moment!
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Gwlad wrote:thanks Pooly. England backs let down a bit i thinkSgt_Pooly wrote:Wales have been superb, really impressed.
game not over yet
We don't deserve to be in this. What a game though, fantastic to watch.
Too true, but we don't deserve to lose by a margin either.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
What a different game this would be if we didn't have these 8 man benches?
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Daly is England's best back.
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I fancy a rack of ribs for dinner
Gwlad- Posts : 4224
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Have to say we are sealing the ball off almost every ruck.
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Take the points!
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Gwlad wrote:Daly is England's best back.
Not much competiton! Him or Nowell!
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surely a huge mistake when you have little chance of getting back down here?
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How on earth are we only 2 points behind.
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GeordieFalcon wrote:Gwlad wrote:Daly is England's best back.
Not much competiton! Him or Nowell!
no Cornish bias. but Nowell for sure!
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
I know it's a gamble but i'd have been tempted to go for the corner, our maul is about the only get forward we seem to be able to get.
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Daly is good but he's just not a wing for me. We lack killer instinct on the wing which May would give.
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Poopie May is on for Nowell!!!
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Don't know why England are taking off Nowell.
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Daly is only staying on for his boot.
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Have we actually driven a welsh player BACK in the tackle when they have had the ball?
Wales are doing it for fun to us!
Wales are doing it for fun to us!
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Hood83 wrote:I know it's a gamble but i'd have been tempted to go for the corner, our maul is about the only get forward we seem to be able to get.
me too. this is a wales win.
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Bigger has been immense, the calls for Davies look a bit silly now.
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I cant believe they took Nowell off!
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
I notice Wales are also adopting the NZ tactic of taking out players way beyond the ruck - wish refs would sort this out as it's plain obstruction ...
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Wales' retention has been brilliant.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Unless they are keeping Daly on in the case of a huge kick in the last minute
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