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6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
First topic message reminder :
WALES v ENGLAND
11 February 2017
KO:16:50 GMT
Principality Stadium, Cardiff
Live on [ITV, RTE, SC4, FR2, DMAX / BBC (H)]
Referee: Jerome Garces (France)
Touch judges: Pascal Gauzere (France) & Nick Briant (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)
A. Head to Head
129 Played 129
57 Won 60
12 Drawn 12
60 Lost 57
1,673 Points 1,518
B. Recent Form
29 May 2016: Twickenham, London
27 – 13 to England
2016 mid-year rugby union internationals
12 March 2016: Twickenham, London
25 – 21 to England
2016 Six Nations Championship
26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
6 February 2015: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
16 – 21 to England
2015 Six Nations
9 March 2014: Twickenham Stadium, London
29 – 18 to England
2014 Six Nations
16 March 2013: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
30 – 3 to Wales
2013 Six Nations
25 February 2012: Twickenham Stadium, London
12 – 19 to Wales
2012 Six Nations
13 August 2011: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 9 to Wales
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test
6 August 2011: Twickenham, London
23 – 19 to England
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test
C. Teams
WALES
15-Leigh Halfpenny, 14-George North, 13-Jonathan Davies, 12-Scott Williams, 11-Liam Williams, 10-Dan Biggar, 9-Rhys Webb; 1-Rob Evans, 2-Ken Owens, 3-Tomas Francis, 4-Jake Ball, 5-Alun Wyn Jones, 6-Sam Warburton, 7-Justin Tipuric; 8-Ross Moriarty.
Replacements: 16-Scott Baldwin, 17-Nicky Smith, 18-Samson Lee, 19-Cory Hill, 20-Taulupe Faletau, 21-Gareth Davies, 22-Sam Davies, 23-Jamie Roberts.
ENGLAND
15-Mike Brown, 14-Jack Nowell, 13-Jonathan Joseph, 12-Owen Farrell, 11-Elliot Daly, 10-George Ford, 9-Ben Youngs; 1-Joe Marler, 2-Dylan Hartley (captain), 3-Dan Cole, 4-Joe Launchbury, 5-Courtney Lawes, 6-Maro Itoje, 7-Jack Clifford, 8-Nathan Hughes.
Replacements: 16-Jamie George, 17-Matt Mullan, 18-Kyle Sinckler, 19-Tom Wood, 20-James Haskell, 21-Danny Care, 22-Ben Te'o, 23-Jonny May.
WALES v ENGLAND
11 February 2017
KO:16:50 GMT
Principality Stadium, Cardiff
Live on [ITV, RTE, SC4, FR2, DMAX / BBC (H)]
Referee: Jerome Garces (France)
Touch judges: Pascal Gauzere (France) & Nick Briant (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)
A. Head to Head
129 Played 129
57 Won 60
12 Drawn 12
60 Lost 57
1,673 Points 1,518
B. Recent Form
29 May 2016: Twickenham, London
27 – 13 to England
2016 mid-year rugby union internationals
12 March 2016: Twickenham, London
25 – 21 to England
2016 Six Nations Championship
26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
26 September 2015: Twickenham, London
25 – 28 to Wales
2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
6 February 2015: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
16 – 21 to England
2015 Six Nations
9 March 2014: Twickenham Stadium, London
29 – 18 to England
2014 Six Nations
16 March 2013: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
30 – 3 to Wales
2013 Six Nations
25 February 2012: Twickenham Stadium, London
12 – 19 to Wales
2012 Six Nations
13 August 2011: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 9 to Wales
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test
6 August 2011: Twickenham, London
23 – 19 to England
2011 Rugby World Cup warm up test
C. Teams
WALES
15-Leigh Halfpenny, 14-George North, 13-Jonathan Davies, 12-Scott Williams, 11-Liam Williams, 10-Dan Biggar, 9-Rhys Webb; 1-Rob Evans, 2-Ken Owens, 3-Tomas Francis, 4-Jake Ball, 5-Alun Wyn Jones, 6-Sam Warburton, 7-Justin Tipuric; 8-Ross Moriarty.
Replacements: 16-Scott Baldwin, 17-Nicky Smith, 18-Samson Lee, 19-Cory Hill, 20-Taulupe Faletau, 21-Gareth Davies, 22-Sam Davies, 23-Jamie Roberts.
ENGLAND
15-Mike Brown, 14-Jack Nowell, 13-Jonathan Joseph, 12-Owen Farrell, 11-Elliot Daly, 10-George Ford, 9-Ben Youngs; 1-Joe Marler, 2-Dylan Hartley (captain), 3-Dan Cole, 4-Joe Launchbury, 5-Courtney Lawes, 6-Maro Itoje, 7-Jack Clifford, 8-Nathan Hughes.
Replacements: 16-Jamie George, 17-Matt Mullan, 18-Kyle Sinckler, 19-Tom Wood, 20-James Haskell, 21-Danny Care, 22-Ben Te'o, 23-Jonny May.
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Luckless Pedestrian- Posts : 24902
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Time running out!! Stunned that Nowell got took off, been one of the few bright sparks for us today!
Care, youve run the wrong line! FFS
Care, youve run the wrong line! FFS
wisden- Posts : 842
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
I can't decide who is worse. Cuthbert or Mike Brown
tigertattie- Posts : 9580
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Launchbury been very disappointing for England, we really miss Kruis.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Whenever Cuffbert gets the ball it reminds me to call my Nan
Gwlad- Posts : 4224
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Are you kidding me on man!!!
How many times have we turned over!!!!
How many times have we turned over!!!!
Geordie- Posts : 28896
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
if England allow that turn over than they are not good enough.
trebellbobaggins- Posts : 4943
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
May he finish?
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Silly silly kick my Wales
tigertattie- Posts : 9580
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WOw....just wow!!!
Geordie- Posts : 28896
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
bbc took an age to give that.
and Davies is even more soprano now.
and Davies is even more soprano now.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
hands on the floor surely!
Hood83- Posts : 2751
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
tigertattie wrote:I can't decide who is worse. Cuthbert or Mike Brown
Cuthbert
Gwlad- Posts : 4224
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
But Elliott the centre can!
kingelderfield- Posts : 2325
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I take back what I said about Daly.........get in there!!!!!!!
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AgreedGwlad wrote:tigertattie wrote:I can't decide who is worse. Cuthbert or Mike Brown
Cuthbert
Geordie- Posts : 28896
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
plenty of time left though. wales still favourites.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Gwlad wrote:tigertattie wrote:I can't decide who is worse. Cuthbert or Mike Brown
Cuthbert
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Big conversion that one.
beshocked- Posts : 14849
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Just rewards after the illegal steal by Webb, he was on his back!
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
We absolutely do not deserve that.
Hood83- Posts : 2751
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With a little help from Cuffbert
Gwlad- Posts : 4224
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No arm clear out by tips
nathan- Posts : 11033
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
We did simply for picking Cuthbert, may of well of played with 14 men. First he loses the ball in contact, putting us under pressure, then he leaves a gap, then he's out of position for his opposite man to score.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Not supporting his weight?
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what a turnaround against wales and the crowd.
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Well done Sinkler!!
Geordie- Posts : 28896
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Launchbury been very disappointing for England, we really miss Kruis.
Motm though
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Sinckler you beauty
Hood83- Posts : 2751
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
England seem to have a knack of digging out the win
Jonathan Davies, where was was trying to kick it too.
Jonathan Davies, where was was trying to kick it too.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
JD.. voice gone low.. job done.
trebellbobaggins- Posts : 4943
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Gutting... we didn't deserve to lose that.
Well done England though, that was a hard one to for them to win, they might not have a harder game than that in the 6 Nations.
Well done England though, that was a hard one to for them to win, they might not have a harder game than that in the 6 Nations.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Good call on Launchbury pooly!
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Sign of a good side, what England just did, well done for winning a game that frankly no other side could have lost but us.
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Despite Italy being woeful Ireland will fear neither of these teams though!
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Only watched the second half but I'm knackered after that. What a great second half, unlucky Wales but congratulations on contributing to a a great game
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
What a game, what a game!
Joe Launchbury motm is bizarre as he thought he was poor.
Well Wales, you were truly superb and deserved to win. I honestly don't know how we won that but will take it as we were very poor for large parts.
Joe Launchbury motm is bizarre as he thought he was poor.
Well Wales, you were truly superb and deserved to win. I honestly don't know how we won that but will take it as we were very poor for large parts.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
There were a few by both sides that weren't called.nathan wrote:No arm clear out by tips
It's something that needs clamping down on.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Well played England, stayed in it to the end.
Good luck in the rest of the tournament
I'm off to get drunk and forget this happened
Good luck in the rest of the tournament
I'm off to get drunk and forget this happened
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Pundits banging on about Teo but I thought George and Haskell off the bench made a big difference again.
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Gwlad wrote:Sign of a good side, what England just did, well done for winning a game that frankly no other side could have lost but us.
Scotland could of...
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serious question for Wales.. eng building so much on their kids.. what have you got after this? it's looking fallow.
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England against Italy at Twickenham next us, that's going to be very messy.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
I think Jiffy just wanted to hear the lisp on the Principality PA system
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No 7&1/2 wrote:Good call on Launchbury pooly!
Thought he was poor mate. Made zero impact carrying and got bullied by the Welsh pair who were streets ahead.
MOTM was between two players........Liam Williams and Dan Bigger who were head and shoulders above the rest. An English motm in that game is an insult imo.
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Shifty wrote:Gwlad wrote:Sign of a good side, what England just did, well done for winning a game that frankly no other side could have lost but us.
Scotland could of...
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beshocked wrote:Pundits banging on about Teo but I thought George and Haskell off the bench made a big difference again.
Haskell was the turning point for us. I think Clifford will be good enough but he is not there yet. Haskell was like that once.
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Re: 6N 2017: Wales v England, 11 February
Richly underserved, I feel for Wales. It's only our bench and the baffling decision to take off Moriarty that allowed us to win that.
Jones has to make a decision on his best two locks and back them. The experiment with Itoje at 6 isn't working. All three were good but we need Haskell, or someone who can make yards and tackle aggressively. Moriarty and Tipuric murdered Hughes and Clifford.
Our backline also looked poor. Ireland will destroy us and Scotland run us close if we don't improve drastically.
Jones has to make a decision on his best two locks and back them. The experiment with Itoje at 6 isn't working. All three were good but we need Haskell, or someone who can make yards and tackle aggressively. Moriarty and Tipuric murdered Hughes and Clifford.
Our backline also looked poor. Ireland will destroy us and Scotland run us close if we don't improve drastically.
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I'd have given it to Tipuric but Launchbury was head and shoulders for England.
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